Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.
Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.
Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.
Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.
Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.
Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
But his attitude to not take any old job is why he isn't working in management any more.
Can't argue with your point about Pardew type managers, but at the same time i can't believe that every job Curbs was offered after west ham was beneath him. Plenty of decent managers are working in the championship. Wolves' manager was in charge at Valencia and Porto before coming to the championship, so if that's not beneath him, then it shouldn't have been for Curbs either.
Wolves offered Curbs a 3-4 month contract , that is taking the piss and I make him right saying make it 2 years or poke it . He thought he had the Villa job and Houllier got it . He got offered the Hull job but that's miles away and a shithole .
He can do what he likes he is and always will be a Charlton god and we didn't (well i did) deserve such a brilliant manager
I always thought England missed a trick with him when they choose the wally with the brolley instead.
In retrospect, but at the time it made complete sense. The guy had already worked as an assistant to the England team, so it was the natural next step for him. After all Joachim Löw took over as Germany manager, also in 2006, after 2 years as assistant, and that didn't work out too badly...
I always thought England missed a trick with him when they choose the wally with the brolley instead.
In retrospect, but at the time it made complete sense. The guy had already worked as an assistant to the England team, so it was the natural next step for him. After all Joachim Löw took over as Germany manager, also in 2006, after 2 years as assistant, and that didn't work out too badly...
Difference being that Germany actually care about their youth infrastructure.
Why? He clearly states he had plenty of job offers and opportunities, but for whatever reason he chose not to take them.
Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
Said it before... His attitude not to take any old job is whats saved his reputation.
Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
Curbs says he's the sort of manager who wants to build something, bit by bit - at Charlton, it was about progressing the team to the Prem and staying there, plus gradually expanding the stadium.
What he doesn't seem to want to do is just come in on a temporary basis as a fire fighter - you know, like Neil Warnock is very good at doing. Curbs wants to build something worthwhile, long term.
But at his age and with his experience, he's already said that mentoring a raw young manager appeals to him. That way he get's to help build something. But he'll have to go below the Prem to do that.
They say you should never go back. But as somebody has already said, mentoring Lee Bowyer here at Charlton could be ideal. Just get out Roland, now! - and perhaps let it happen
I'm not saying anything revolutionary when I suggest that him working above Bowyer and Jacko in and advisory roll could really pay dividends for us, but it's definitely something I'd be very happy to see us try.
I know he gets a bit of stick for being a little too dull and pragmatic at times, his football certainly could be when he didn't think we had a team with which to go and impose ourselves on the opposition (his record suggests he was right to take that approach most of the time though), but he will always be one of my biggest Charlton heroes. So many great days under his management.
It's really poor the way he has been a little bit ostracised for making a stand against West Ham, but it only puts him higher in my estimation. He's a man of principal, which sometimes seems a very rare thing in football, and the sense of custodianship and commitment he carried with his management of our club was even rarer and so starkly in contrast to many of the jokers we have had manning the dugout since he left. His West Ham roots are well known, but he'll always be proper Charlton in my book.
The players were always the most important thing to Curbs.
He worked really hard in scouting and assessing skills and personalities before bringing players in and forming a team. His endeavour certainly paid off for Charlton. When West Ham took recruitment and retention decisions away from him it was like chopping his right arm off.
Curbs was every inch a manager (as opposed to head coach). I'm not sure how many old fashioned manager jobs still exist at the top level of football, but I think Curbs would find it difficult to merely train and prepare players who were selected for him.
A rather amusing thought would be Curbs reaction to the waifs and strays sent to the Valley by Duchatelet Meire and Driesen. Can you just imagine?
Sean Dyche at Burnley or Eddie Howe at Bournemouth are the nearest we have to a modern day Curbs, as both have been there for a while, have strong team spirit within their squads and you get the feeling that both (especially Dyche) are interested in the long term development of the clubs, rather than just using all the PL money on big signings
For example, when he first took Burnley up, a lot of the PL "windfall" was used to rebuild the training ground rather than the squad
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Little bit sad that article but at least he seems to have accepted the situation. Would have him back in a heartbeat in an advisory capacity.
Well a younger version of me.
Perhaps some stubbornness on his part as he says a lot were championship clubs. It's highly possible that if he'd taken one and got them promoted, he'd still be working in management today.
Would much prefer a Manager coming into Charlton with that attitude to roles because they actually feel they can make a difference rather than us getting an Alan Pardew type figure who just sees it as another pay out when things eventually go wrong
Our Club needs rebuilding from top to bottom. Inside and out and I can’t think of a person better qualified to do it.
Yes please.
Can't argue with your point about Pardew type managers, but at the same time i can't believe that every job Curbs was offered after west ham was beneath him. Plenty of decent managers are working in the championship. Wolves' manager was in charge at Valencia and Porto before coming to the championship, so if that's not beneath him, then it shouldn't have been for Curbs either.
He thought he had the Villa job and Houllier got it .
He got offered the Hull job but that's miles away and a shithole .
He can do what he likes he is and always will be a Charlton god and we didn't (well i did) deserve such a brilliant manager
If we were to clinch promotion I could see new owners wanting someone with more experience taking over. i.e Mick McCarthy type.
What he doesn't seem to want to do is just come in on a temporary basis as a fire fighter - you know, like Neil Warnock is very good at doing.
Curbs wants to build something worthwhile, long term.
But at his age and with his experience, he's already said that mentoring a raw young manager appeals to him.
That way he get's to help build something. But he'll have to go below the Prem to do that.
They say you should never go back. But as somebody has already said, mentoring Lee Bowyer here at Charlton could be ideal.
Just get out Roland, now! - and perhaps let it happen
I know he gets a bit of stick for being a little too dull and pragmatic at times, his football certainly could be when he didn't think we had a team with which to go and impose ourselves on the opposition (his record suggests he was right to take that approach most of the time though), but he will always be one of my biggest Charlton heroes. So many great days under his management.
It's really poor the way he has been a little bit ostracised for making a stand against West Ham, but it only puts him higher in my estimation. He's a man of principal, which sometimes seems a very rare thing in football, and the sense of custodianship and commitment he carried with his management of our club was even rarer and so starkly in contrast to many of the jokers we have had manning the dugout since he left. His West Ham roots are well known, but he'll always be proper Charlton in my book.
He worked really hard in scouting and assessing skills and personalities before bringing players in and forming a team. His endeavour certainly paid off for Charlton. When West Ham took recruitment and retention decisions away from him it was like chopping his right arm off.
Curbs was every inch a manager (as opposed to head coach). I'm not sure how many old fashioned manager jobs still exist at the top level of football, but I think Curbs would find it difficult to merely train and prepare players who were selected for him.
A rather amusing thought would be Curbs reaction to the waifs and strays sent to the Valley by Duchatelet Meire and Driesen. Can you just imagine?
For example, when he first took Burnley up, a lot of the PL "windfall" was used to rebuild the training ground rather than the squad
Curbishleys phone stopped ringing....
A lot of people are stupid