Summer 2018 transfer rumours
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I quite like Sarr at full-back, he's decent on the ball and fairly quick0
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And his long range cross field passes6
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agreed, Clough was meant to be a top player but seems to have lost his way. I think I would have just taken Clough over Ward on ability, but we did need a winger.covered end junior said:Some good signings from a few clubs today.
Zac Clough to Rochdale on loan seems an odd one.
Christian Doidge to Bolton on loan.
Only issue if if we play 442, I am not convinced Ward and Fosu can play down the wings. And I am not convinced Marshall is good enough.0 -
Marshall is good enough. He proved that at Bradford. What he needs to do is prove he can do it consistently.1
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But that was over a year ago. On the 8 or so occasions I have seen him play he has played well twice. And that was more defensive/protecting the full back. Don't believe he offers the attacking threat we need.ShootersHillGuru said:Marshall is good enough. He proved that at Bradford. What he needs to do is prove he can do it consistently.
Would like him playing down the wing 1-0 up but not 1-0 down.3 -
For some reason, Marshall picks up the ball so deep too often, he also comes inside with his back to goal, facing the defence asking for the ball, he is never going to hurt the opposition doing that.cafcfan1990 said:
But that was over a year ago. On the 8 or so occasions I have seen him play he has played well twice. And that was more defensive/protecting the full back. Don't believe he offers the attacking threat we need.ShootersHillGuru said:Marshall is good enough. He proved that at Bradford. What he needs to do is prove he can do it consistently.
Would like him playing down the wing 1-0 up but not 1-0 down.
Hopefully now with Cullen, we will have a player who can pick the ball up and find Marshall 20 yards further up the pitch. He just needs to be told to stay wider and not come short looking for the ball. He has ability, I have no doubt of that, I just think he needs a bit of guidance positionally as he seems to have lost a bit of confidence. Players who do what he has been doing are often low on confidence and just want to get involved in the game when sometimes the team needs them to do the opposite.
If for example we played a 4-3-3, as long as he stayed high and wide for most of it, I think he would be a threat going forward. We know he can do the defensive work, just needs to get back to the basics and what he is good at.1 -
Unlikely to gain consistency at his age. I've only seen him play well once; he's ok defensively but offers nothing going forwardShootersHillGuru said:Marshall is good enough. He proved that at Bradford. What he needs to do is prove he can do it consistently.
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Ward and Fosu can’t play down the wings? Or do you mean you wouldn’t play two at the same time in a 4-4-2?cafcfan1990 said:
agreed, Clough was meant to be a top player but seems to have lost his way. I think I would have just taken Clough over Ward on ability, but we did need a winger.covered end junior said:Some good signings from a few clubs today.
Zac Clough to Rochdale on loan seems an odd one.
Christian Doidge to Bolton on loan.
Only issue if if we play 442, I am not convinced Ward and Fosu can play down the wings. And I am not convinced Marshall is good enough.0 -
I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.2
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Sorry yes meant not sure they can play same time in a 442.Scoham said:
Ward and Fosu can’t play down the wings? Or do you mean you wouldn’t play two at the same time in a 4-4-2?cafcfan1990 said:
agreed, Clough was meant to be a top player but seems to have lost his way. I think I would have just taken Clough over Ward on ability, but we did need a winger.covered end junior said:Some good signings from a few clubs today.
Zac Clough to Rochdale on loan seems an odd one.
Christian Doidge to Bolton on loan.
Only issue if if we play 442, I am not convinced Ward and Fosu can play down the wings. And I am not convinced Marshall is good enough.
Remains to be seen I guess, but I’m surprisingly slightly optimistic about the squad0 - Sponsored links:
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Totally whelmed.
He is a good lad Jamie ward, popular lad and got a good attitude. Character is everything and something we stopped focussing on since SCP.
We are going to do this the hard way. No takeover and big money. We have to graft.
We are actually going to put a promotion on that old twat's obituary.
I think we do actually have the right blend and quality in the squad and if the likes of lapslie and morgan prove to be worthy of the championship then that's where we are going.
I just think Bowyer is gonna do something special. He is the right guy to show strength in adverse circumstances.
Dec-february - watch a little 8-9 game winning run
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The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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Didn't Mark Marshall play together with Josh Cullen at Bradford, that season?ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.
Billy Clarke was also in that team.
Cullen might be just the player to feed Marshall, as he did that season.
I wouldn't write off Marshall just yet,
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I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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Not unless we can start providing quality service to them. Which with Fosu, Clarke and Ward coming in should be doable tbf.Covered End said:
Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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If we don’t score enough goals I think it will be more down to the midfield not chipping in enough. We’ve had decent contributions from that area which shamed our strikers in recent times but without Holmes and JFC I’m not sure that who we’ve replaced them with are as prolific in terms of goals. There will however be more chances made for Taylor, Vetokele and Grant. I really don’t see Ajose featuring much once all the injured players are fit.golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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Taylor already has 3 goals with "no service" and Grant has 2. Vetokele has played about 40 mins of football and Ajose hasn't been played as a striker at all. IMO we won't have the top scorer in the league but we'll score a decent amount of goals. And that's without mentioning Ward.thenewbie said:
Not unless we can start providing quality service to them. Which with Fosu, Clarke and Ward coming in should be doable tbf.Covered End said:
Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
Bauer, Pearce, Bielik, Sarr, Pratley all bring a lot of height as well and I think we'll get quite a few set piece goals, especially with quality dead ball delivery which Cullen should bring2 -
In the second half we looked dangerous from corners, which makes a pleasant change. England at the WC showed that even the top teams rely on set piecessam3110 said:
Taylor already has 3 goals with "no service" and Grant has 2. Vetokele has played about 40 mins of football and Ajose hasn't been played as a striker at all. IMO we won't have the top scorer in the league but we'll score a decent amount of goals. And that's without mentioning Ward.thenewbie said:
Not unless we can start providing quality service to them. Which with Fosu, Clarke and Ward coming in should be doable tbf.Covered End said:
Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
Bauer, Pearce, Bielik, Sarr, Pratley all bring a lot of height as well and I think we'll get quite a few set piece goals, especially with quality dead ball delivery which Cullen should bring0 - Sponsored links:
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Top team?killerandflash said:
In the second half we looked dangerous from corners, which makes a pleasant change. England at the WC showed that even the top teams rely on set piecessam3110 said:
Taylor already has 3 goals with "no service" and Grant has 2. Vetokele has played about 40 mins of football and Ajose hasn't been played as a striker at all. IMO we won't have the top scorer in the league but we'll score a decent amount of goals. And that's without mentioning Ward.thenewbie said:
Not unless we can start providing quality service to them. Which with Fosu, Clarke and Ward coming in should be doable tbf.Covered End said:
Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
Bauer, Pearce, Bielik, Sarr, Pratley all bring a lot of height as well and I think we'll get quite a few set piece goals, especially with quality dead ball delivery which Cullen should bring0 -
I'd like to think Aribo and Fosu would match or better Holmes and JFC goals tally.ShootersHillGuru said:
If we don’t score enough goals I think it will be more down to the midfield not chipping in enough. We’ve had decent contributions from that area which shamed our strikers in recent times but without Holmes and JFC I’m not sure that who we’ve replaced them with are as prolific in terms of goals. There will however be more chances made for Taylor, Vetokele and Grant. I really don’t see Ajose featuring much once all the injured players are fit.golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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Think Fosu will pay his way in terms of goals.
If we can keep him on the pitch.
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On Monday morning, Jacko or Bow are going to take Fosu to one side - and have a quiet word. No doubt.ShootersHillGuru said:Think Fosu will pay his way in terms of goals.
If we can keep him on the pitch.
I don't think we'll see that reaction again from him.
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Charltonised.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.
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We had both Clarke and Marshall last season!Oggy Red said:
Didn't Mark Marshall play together with Josh Cullen at Bradford, that season?ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.
Billy Clarke was also in that team.
Cullen might be just the player to feed Marshall, as he did that season.
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They've played barely 100 minutes together in the same lineup, over 2 matches.uie2 said:
We had both Clarke and Marshall last season!Oggy Red said:
Didn't Mark Marshall play together with Josh Cullen at Bradford, that season?ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.
Billy Clarke was also in that team.
Cullen might be just the player to feed Marshall, as he did that season.
I wouldn't write off Marshall just yet,
Marshall was injured in pre-season and didn't make a 1st team appearance until right at the end of October, when he came on as sub to actually replace Billy Clarke.
Clarke was then injured and didn't return until the Pompey home defeat on December 9th; playing 75 minutes alongside Marshall before being subbed.
The next game, (away at Blackburn, Dec 16th), Clarke did his ACL subbed after 25 minutes - and hasn't played since, of course.
They did well together at Bradford - but we've not really seen them in the same team yet.
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Folk on the Bradford forum were not as enthusiastic as many of us. Mostly, their regard for Clarke was so poor that they were incredulous when he commanded a transfer fee. The loss of Marshall was more keenly debated. One Bradford fan said he was "an irritating little shit" - referring to a talent that promised more than it delivered.Oggy Red said:
They've played barely 100 minutes together in the same lineup, over 2 matches.uie2 said:
We had both Clarke and Marshall last season!Oggy Red said:
Didn't Mark Marshall play together with Josh Cullen at Bradford, that season?ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think anyone would argue with the suggestion that the Mark Marshall we have seen isn’t the Mark Marshall of Bradford’s playoff final defeat to the Scum where he was the best player on the pitch. That season wasn’t he Bradford’s player of the year ? He’s not so old and decrepit that he can’t get back to something like that form. I don’t think playing under Robinson and his strange inflexible system did MM any favours and it’s only since Bowyer took charge that Marshall has looked as if he’s on the comeback trail. The most telling point for me is that Bowyer made the point of saying that he wanted to retain Marshall and was very much in his plans. MM is a winger and by definition inconsistent but I certainly havn’t written him off for having an important contribution to make this season.
Billy Clarke was also in that team.
Cullen might be just the player to feed Marshall, as he did that season.
I wouldn't write off Marshall just yet,
Marshall was injured in pre-season and didn't make a 1st team appearance until right at the end of October, when he came on as sub to actually replace Billy Clarke.
Clarke was then injured and didn't return until the Pompey home defeat on December 9th; playing 75 minutes alongside Marshall before being subbed.
The next game, (away at Blackburn, Dec 16th), Clarke did his ACL subbed after 25 minutes - and hasn't played since, of course.
They did well together at Bradford - but we've not really seen them in the same team yet.
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How far away from selection is Billy Clarke ?0
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Not enough QUALITY up front. Taylor is half decent (of he can decide to stop looking to draw a foul & concentrate on going for the ball), Grant has pace but lacks composure in front of goal & Ajose is unlikely to be used as a striker imo. Vetokele is the only natural striker amongst them but I wonder if he is the player he was 4 years ago. Time will tell but I doubt they will get 40 goals between them........which they need to as the only player in our midfield who will score is FosuCovered End said:
Taylor, Grant, Vetokele & Ajose. Not enough up front ?golfaddick said:
I disagree somewhat. Just don't feel we have enough up front to challenge for a top 6 place.ShootersHillGuru said:
The squad with the addition of the injured lads looks good enough to me to make the playoffs this season with 41 games still to play. In fact I would go as far as to say that if we don’t get top six then Bowyer will have had an epic fail. The key is getting those injured players back and having a bit of luck with injuries. We must be due some.golfaddick said:
One thing LB has done is to have brought in experienced players in Prately & Ward.....even Cullen has played a few seasons in this league. KR brought in players like Mavidid, Dodoo & Kaikai who hadn't played much at this level & are raw. Even though I still don't think we'll get anywhere near the top 6 this season at least the last couple of weeks has guven me hope that we will finish around mid table - which I'd have bitten your hand off at the start of August.Viewfinder said:
It was on deadline day, 31 August 2017, when Robinson pulled a masterstroke in signing Joe Dodoo.KiwiValley said:serious question / when was the last time we signed someone on a deadline day ? Pre Duchâtelet?
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