Jake Forster-Caskey (ed. Signs a new contract extension to 2021)

Charltonparklane

His dead ball is better than Cullens

Alwaysneil

I really rated him before he did his ACL and was out for a year. Never quite seemed the same since he came back but looked decent after the COVID break and I’m personally delighted he’s staying for another season.

I’d have him in the squad in the championship. Total no brained for me in league one.  

Good on him. 

*edit oops unfortunate typo pointed out below

Todds_right_hook

Alwaysneil said:

I really dated him before he did his ACL and was out for a year. Never quite seemed the same since he came back but looked decent after the COVID break and I’m personally delighted he’s staying for another season.

I’d have him in the squad in the championship. Total no brained for me in league one.  

Good on him. 

A gentleman never kiss and tells

Moo

That’s a nice surprise 

MartinCAFC

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Showmetheway2gohome said:

thought bowyer said senior players could not sign because of the embargo 

I think bowyer got it wrong. I don’t see how legally the efl can stop us offering out of contract players new deals. 

They can if we go over our current budget

Not much chance of that with all the loans returning to their clubs, as we'll now be looking as a lower/cheaper calibre of loan. Plus the likes of Taylor, Hemed, Williams, Matthews and Page all going.

Can't imagine Sarr staying either unless it's for less money as he was on a decent wage.

Have I missed something where it's been said Williams is definitely leaving? I'm not sure he'll get a Championship gig with his injury record and output of 0 goals for an attacking midfielder. Which Championship club is realistically going to go in for Williams?

Is it completely unrealistic for Williams to take up the option of the second year or to receive a new contract? 

killerandflash

MartinCAFC said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Showmetheway2gohome said:

thought bowyer said senior players could not sign because of the embargo 

I think bowyer got it wrong. I don’t see how legally the efl can stop us offering out of contract players new deals. 

They can if we go over our current budget

Not much chance of that with all the loans returning to their clubs, as we'll now be looking as a lower/cheaper calibre of loan. Plus the likes of Taylor, Hemed, Williams, Matthews and Page all going.

Can't imagine Sarr staying either unless it's for less money as he was on a decent wage.

Have I missed something where it's been said Williams is definitely leaving? I'm not sure he'll get a Championship gig with his injury record and output of 0 goals for an attacking midfielder. Which Championship club is realistically going to go in for Williams?

Is it completely unrealistic for Williams to take up the option of the second year or to receive a new contract? 

I imagine the likes of Williams (or rather their agents) will be frantically phoning around to see who else might be interested

After all Williams originally left us after the playoff final, then only came back later in the summer to train with us and eventually signed again, so presumably he had been hoping for better offers which didn't materialise, or he got ones which didn't suit him on a personal level

MattF

Williams should count himself very lucky if he can get a championship move, would be a huge gamble for any club to take him on with his injury record this season alone. If he can stomach league one football, he'd do worse than stay here for a year and prove he can stay fit, because we are gkingto be desperate for players come the 12th September.

CAFCDAZ

killerandflash said:

MartinCAFC said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Showmetheway2gohome said:

thought bowyer said senior players could not sign because of the embargo 

I think bowyer got it wrong. I don’t see how legally the efl can stop us offering out of contract players new deals. 

They can if we go over our current budget

Not much chance of that with all the loans returning to their clubs, as we'll now be looking as a lower/cheaper calibre of loan. Plus the likes of Taylor, Hemed, Williams, Matthews and Page all going.

Can't imagine Sarr staying either unless it's for less money as he was on a decent wage.

Have I missed something where it's been said Williams is definitely leaving? I'm not sure he'll get a Championship gig with his injury record and output of 0 goals for an attacking midfielder. Which Championship club is realistically going to go in for Williams?

Is it completely unrealistic for Williams to take up the option of the second year or to receive a new contract? 

I imagine the likes of Williams (or rather their agents) will be frantically phoning around to see who else might be interested

After all Williams originally left us after the playoff final, then only came back later in the summer to train with us and eventually signed again, so presumably he had been hoping for better offers which didn't materialise, or he got ones which didn't suit him on a personal level

Not quite the case, he left as he was told they couldn't afford him but money was never discussed. He never wanted to leave. This time round I think he might however, as I've heard he had the feeling bowyer wasn't impressed with him post lockdown but he felt he was in good condition. I hope he stays personally

Callumcafc

His technique puts him a step above most players in League One, which is exactly where we’ll be next year so it’s a good piece of news.

Pratley, Forster-Caskey and Oztumer is a solid central three in the third division.

i_b_b_o_r_g

What's the chances he's agreed because Bowyer has told him he's staying too? Or clutching staws

Valley11

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

What's the chances he's agreed because Bowyer has told him he's staying too? Or clutching staws

Doubtful. He’s agreed because he’s been automatically given an extra year. 

A no brainier post-Covid for a player who recently came back from a serious knee Injury. 

jimmymelrose

shine166 said:

I wonder if new contracts now factor in covid breaks ? 

That would be simply too much common sense for any of our multiple unknown mystery owners.

Oggy Red

JFC last year signed a contract with 1-year option.

He's simply taken up that option, no doubt on the same salary.

Sounds common sense on his part to me. Especially after his serious injury and the uncertainty with Covid - with clubs likely to have smaller budgets, perhaps reducing squad numbers and offering lower salaries, he didn't fancy the risk of being a free agent?

killerandflash

Oggy Red said:

JFC last year signed a contract with 1-year option.

He's simply taken up that option, no doubt on the same salary.

Sounds common sense on his part to me. Especially after his serious injury and the uncertainty with Covid - with clubs likely to have smaller budgets, perhaps reducing squad numbers and offering lower salaries, he didn't fancy the risk of being a free agent?

I imagine that salary was low for the Championship and decent for L1...

Ferryman

mid_life_crisis said:

Irrelevant as we won't be football playing next season, but I'd have let him go.
Not interested in players such as Forster-Caskey and Page who are permanently injured.

Indeed. I reckon he triggered the clause, not the club.

Sage

Excellent news.

Forster-Caskey’s injury was a huge blow for us at the start of the promotion season last year, well 2 years ago now. He was big in Bowyer’s plans but actually forced us to go and get Cullen and Bielik.

He will score goals from midfield in League One. Very good player for that level and one who if Bowyer somehow does stay, will continue to improve.

BR7_addick

Looks so off the pace, 17/18 he was steaming in tackles and scoring goals, he looks a shadow of his former self.

Remembering Billy Clarke who I believe had the same or a similar injury?  He never recovered back to the player he was, could this be the case here, really hope not, if somehow we manage to get players in I think he’d benefit from a season loan in league two to build up confidence.

Todds_right_hook

BR7_addick said:

Looks so off the pace, 17/18 he was steaming in tackles and scoring goals, he looks a shadow of his former self.

Remembering Billy Clarke who I believe had the same or a similar injury?  He never recovered back to the player he was, could this be the case here, really hope not, if somehow we manage to get players in I think he’d benefit from a season loan in league two to build up confidence.

He is definitely lost as a centre midfielder. His best game since the injury was as a wing back. Our next cup game in that pathetic u-23 competition, I would play him at left back. 

bolloxbolder

Said it before but a waste of a space. We cannot afford injury prone players. Williams is another.  We never learn. Plus he is not very good either. 

hoof_it_up_to_benty

Todds_right_hook said:

BR7_addick said:

Looks so off the pace, 17/18 he was steaming in tackles and scoring goals, he looks a shadow of his former self.

Remembering Billy Clarke who I believe had the same or a similar injury?  He never recovered back to the player he was, could this be the case here, really hope not, if somehow we manage to get players in I think he’d benefit from a season loan in league two to build up confidence.

He is definitely lost as a centre midfielder. His best game since the injury was as a wing back. Our next cup game in that pathetic u-23 competition, I would play him at left back. 

Only time he's impressed me like you was playing as a wing back.

AFKABartram

I’m not one to slag off players but I was as excited by JFC triggering his contract extension as I was by Mrs AFKA saying we’re having fish and chips on Friday and realising she means oven F&C and not from the chippy. 

cantersaddick

I'm still hopeful that with a run of games he can get back to his previous level. He missed pre season last year and missed the whole previous season. If he gets back to previous levels he will be a force in league 1.

sinceiwasyoung

Nowhere near the player he was before the injury, but doesn't help playing in an inexperienced midfield. A ball winning midfielder like Ben Watson , if he does sign ,might help .

Oggy Red

Perhaps just 3 in midfield doesn't help JFC's game, when outnumbered in midfield by the opponent?
Especially without attacking fullbacks overlapping.

It was fine when we were carrying the game to Doncaster early on and causing them problems - but when they hit us on the break they cut through our midfield at will, too many gaps to plug.

Credit to JFC for the assist for our goal yesterday - he did well to get to the byeline and clip back an inviting ball that Washington couldn't miss.

bolloxbolder

Oggy Red said:

Perhaps just 3 in midfield doesn't help JFC's game, when outnumbered in midfield by the opponent?
Especially without attacking fullbacks overlapping.

It was fine when we were carrying the game to Doncaster early on and causing them problems - but when they hit us on the break they cut through our midfield at will, too many gaps to plug.

Credit to JFC for the assist for our goal yesterday - he did well to get to the byeline and clip back an inviting ball that Washington couldn't miss.

Think the assist was Doughty. 

Covered End

Todds_right_hook said:

BR7_addick said:

Looks so off the pace, 17/18 he was steaming in tackles and scoring goals, he looks a shadow of his former self.

Remembering Billy Clarke who I believe had the same or a similar injury?  He never recovered back to the player he was, could this be the case here, really hope not, if somehow we manage to get players in I think he’d benefit from a season loan in league two to build up confidence.

He is definitely lost as a centre midfielder. His best game since the injury was as a wing back. Our next cup game in that pathetic u-23 competition, I would play him at left back. 

The only decent game he's had was at wing back v Fulham.
He's just invisible.
I noticed him for the first time yesterday, when he chested that ball back to the keeper (too heavily) and nearly scored an OG.
I was like jeez, who the hell did that & had to look up his number to realise it was him. 

Scoham

Different style but reminds me a bit of Racon. Technically better than the likes of Pritchard, Cousins and Lapslie, but he can’t be described as a ball winner, box to box midfielder, playmaker or goalscorer.

He’s decent at most things without standing out in any area. That’s not enough to start for a club aiming to win promotion, never mind compete in the Championship.

At his best he may get a few goals and that might be enough to keep his place in the team. If he’s not scoring then for me he’s someone we need to improve on if we want to go up. That may be a player already at the club (Levitt?) or a new signing (Watson?).

dickplumb

I thought Forster- Caskey was awful as was Williams. Barker looked like a fish out of water. In the first half it looked like Doncaster would score every time they went forward. Gilbey looked like he could do something with better players around him. Washington has scored two goals but this is the worse Charlton squad since Slades.

Scoham

dickplumb said:

I thought Forster- Caskey was awful as was Williams. Barker looked like a fish out of water. In the first half it looked like Doncaster would score every time they went forward. Gilbey looked like he could do something with better players around him. Washington has scored two goals but this is the worse Charlton squad since Slades.

Despite what I said above I’d take JFC over Slade’s midfield, before Ulvestad came in he saw no issue with playing Foley, Crofts and Jackson together. Awful.

Oggy Red

dickplumb said:

I thought Forster- Caskey was awful as was Williams. Barker looked like a fish out of water. In the first half it looked like Doncaster would score every time they went forward. Gilbey looked like he could do something with better players around him. Washington has scored two goals but this is the worse Charlton squad since Slades.

I believe that's evident to most of us, including Bowyer.

But what's he to do? Half the squad left in the close season including a number of key players, and he's not allowed to replace them.
The embargo has put paid to that. The EFL has ruled there can be a 23 man squad but that has to include many raw inexperienced kids, who are counted as 1st team squad players because they've played a few minutes in a cup game or last season, during our severe injury crisis, were thrown in hopelessly out of their depth because there was literally nobody else fit enough to play.

Sure, we've signed the experienced Washington and Gilbey - but that's it. It doesn't replace half a squad.
Bowyer has stated he has 3, 4, 5 ready to sign - but of course they can't yet.

It's not only us supporters pinning our hopes on Sandgaard. Bowyer is too.