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2018 FIFA World Cup Thread

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  • I hope Columbia win their group - it will make it less of a clear cut advantage!
  • The Lower the so called quality of the competition the harder they will try

    I would bet more we balls up against the Swiss or a team like that than a team like Brazil or
    ur gay

    Let’s play the best and up our game rather than play the weaker and they up theirs
  • I’d be quite pissed off if I knew our management team were genuinely worried about facing Colombia. Hodgson started worrying about what the best route was etc when fielding a weak side against Slovakia and look what happened. Play a weakened side to protect bookings etc but still play to win the game.
  • I hope Columbia win their group - it will make it less of a clear cut advantage!

    I think they will beat Senegal and Japan will draw with Poland
  • I hope Columbia win their group - it will make it less of a clear cut advantage!

    I think they will beat Senegal and Japan will draw with Poland
    Yes, that is what I think. Possibly even Poland beating Japan! I'm not saying England can't beat Columbia - I expect them to if they have to - but they will have a far greater chance against Japan. Although they are well organised!
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    England are in to fourth favourites for the trophy behind Brazil, Spain and Belgium.

    Bookies covering themselves. France, unimpressive as they have looked, are more likely to win than England.
    They do have a tough draw though... Argentina then Uruguay or Portugal...
    Significantly tougher than a draw of say Colombia then Brazil, which is what England could still get?
  • Try and aim for wherever Colombia finish earlier in the day.

    They would beat us so avoid them in the round of 16.
  • Uruguay are an ugly team who may pose a bigger risk. They defend well and have two excellent forwards - very very hard to beat even though nobody wants to watch them!
  • It's pretty clear that the bottom half of the draw looks easier on paper but who knows what will happen.

    Let's not forget that Iceland looked 'easy' in the Euro's and also Belgium probably thought they had an easy route to the final.........then got turned over by Wales in the quarters.
  • Try and aim for wherever Colombia finish earlier in the day.

    They would beat us so avoid them in the round of 16.


    Columbia aren’t even better than us, you can’t say they’d beat us
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  • edited June 2018
    Bottom line is, whoever wins it will almost certainly have to beat some very good sides at some point so it's pointless worrying too much about who is next and trying to engineer a certain path - Mexico might beat Brazil and then it's all changed again anyway. Try and win each game and worry about the next one once you know for sure what it is.

    I think it could be better for England to be playing sides they're not so expected to beat comfortably. Too much of a minnow will sit back and try to frustrate - and the Tunisia game is a lesson in how that can go, very dangerous in the knock-out phase when teams can play for penalties. Protects a bit against complacency as well.

    Not saying we want to play Brazils and Spains etc. more than we have to, but someone like Colombia who will show some ambition may not be the worst thing that could happen. Senegal could be threat - they would likely sit back but are mighty fast on the break.

    Japan we should have too much for.
  • England are in to fourth favourites for the trophy behind Brazil, Spain and Belgium.

    Bookies covering themselves. France, unimpressive as they have looked, are more likely to win than England.
    They do have a tough draw though... Argentina then Uruguay or Portugal...
    Significantly tougher than a draw of say Colombia then Brazil, which is what England could still get?
    Good point but I'm sure they're just hedging against us finishing 2nd and getting the easier route.

    If we finish runners up tomorrow, expect every bloke and his dog to have a bet on England to win the whole thing.
  • And to be honest - Argentina has a fear factor to it, but they have been crap. I think we would over-power them. Portugal have a great player and two or three good players, but are not that good. A team I'd like to avoid is a full strength Belgium - so that is good!
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    Anyone still want to put down a marker and beat Belgium?

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    There's a very real chance that the runner up of our group could get to the semi final.

    Depends a bit on whether Colombia win their group, would want to avoid them in the last 16.
  • England seem to be the most dangerous team on set pieces. The Tunisia game was great for us as it forced FIFA to get hot on fouls in the box from set pieces and that has to be a great help for us!
  • Spain look favourites to get to the final in the weaker half.

    England will not beat Brazil if we play them in the quarters.

    Belgium will be thinking the same as England about the two halves of the draw. We could see a late own goal or two.
  • Top half of the draw has 10 World Cups and 13 continental titles between them.

    Bottom half of the draw has 1 World Cup and 5 continental titles between them.
  • Following on from my point about set pieces - this chart shows why England have a decent chance. you have to praise Southgate for the work he has done here.
  • Following on from my point about set pieces - this chart shows why England have a decent chance. you have to praise Southgate for the work he has done here.

    It's an obvious way that teams can restrict us too. The good news is, of the teams left, the only truly dogged defensive team left is probably Uruguay and they are not in our half of the draw.
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  • Following on from my point about set pieces - this chart shows why England have a decent chance. you have to praise Southgate for the work he has done here.

    It's an obvious way that teams can restrict us too. The good news is, of the teams left, the only truly dogged defensive team left is probably Uruguay and they are not in our half of the draw.
    Maybe Sweden too. They could potentially handle out set pieces pretty well.
  • So maybe these are the teams we need to avoid as you say.
  • Hate to say but this could make it a very one sided and rubbish World Cup Final if Spain struggle to get into gear as they certainly didnt in the Groups
  • 2nd place will also mean the 2nd round and semi would be in Moscow, which you’d think would result in a much bigger support.
  • Following on from my point about set pieces - this chart shows why England have a decent chance. you have to praise Southgate for the work he has done here.

    It's an obvious way that teams can restrict us too. The good news is, of the teams left, the only truly dogged defensive team left is probably Uruguay and they are not in our half of the draw.
    They will be if we win the group
  • edited June 2018

    Following on from my point about set pieces - this chart shows why England have a decent chance. you have to praise Southgate for the work he has done here.

    It's an obvious way that teams can restrict us too. The good news is, of the teams left, the only truly dogged defensive team left is probably Uruguay and they are not in our half of the draw.
    They will be if we win the group
    Yeah meant to say we can't play them until at least the semis and it definitely pointless worrying about who we might get in the semis - if we can't beat whoever we play there then we wouldn't deserve to win the world cup anyway.
  • I think what it comes down to is, yes we can beat anyone on our day, but we will have to be on our mythical "day" four times if we want to win this from the top half of the draw - which is a tough ask in what, 14 days of football?

    Japan, Sweden, Spain then Brazil is a gradual step up in quality each time. In plotting potential progress and opponents pre-tournament on my wall chart like I did as a kid I don't think I could have come up with a better scenario if I tried. Can't believe this is even a debate really. We HAVE to get into the bottom half of that draw.
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