If you are a Charlton fan you get used to selling. But this is hugely underwhelming. . I'm amazed he's settled for Brentford. Can only assume that the Prem clubs were not queueing up ...in their eyes he's more Cousins than Gomez.
I think it’s probably a stepping stone type move. He isn’t proven in the Championship, so jumping 2 divisions may have been a bit too much for him. I should imagine next season, if he does well he won’t be far off a premier league move.
So, we’ve sold Konsa, Lookman, Gomez and Cousins for just shy of £20m and paid the likes of Tiexiera and Sarr between 12 - 16k (although I find it hard to believe Sarr is on that!!) a week.....
I think it’s probably a stepping stone type move. He isn’t proven in the Championship, so jumping 2 divisions may have been a bit too much for him. I should imagine next season, if he does well he won’t be far off a premier league move.
So, we’ve sold Konsa, Lookman, Gomez and Cousins for just shy of £20m and paid the likes of Tiexiera and Sarr between 12 - 16k (although I find it hard to believe Sarr is on that!!) a week.....
I think it’s probably a stepping stone type move. He isn’t proven in the Championship, so jumping 2 divisions may have been a bit too much for him. I should imagine next season, if he does well he won’t be far off a premier league move.
So, we’ve sold Konsa, Lookman, Gomez and Cousins for just shy of £20m and paid the likes of Tiexiera and Sarr between 12 - 16k (although I find it hard to believe Sarr is on that!!) a week.....
Good punt from Brentford's perspective. Talented centre back who can cover at full back and in midfield. Will probably improve and eventually get sold to a prem club for loads of money. We will mutter and snarl and send yet more dark thoughts in Roland's direction but I don't think we will miss him too much. I actually preferred Dijksteel to Konsa at full back and as everyone seems to agree he was a bit lightweight at centre back in Div. 1. I hope we sell Mag now but only if we sign a target man who can score goals better than 1 in 4 games. Being an addick I can only hope...
I think it’s probably a stepping stone type move. He isn’t proven in the Championship, so jumping 2 divisions may have been a bit too much for him. I should imagine next season, if he does well he won’t be far off a premier league move.
So, we’ve sold Konsa, Lookman, Gomez and Cousins for just shy of £20m and paid the likes of Tiexiera and Sarr between 12 - 16k (although I find it hard to believe Sarr is on that!!) a week.....
The move to Brentford is a big surprise but, despite having spent most of the last 60 years in the third and fourth tier, they are a progressive outfit and you can't argue with four successive top 10 finishes in a ferociously competitive Championship. Their new stadium will be ready in a year or two and they are very much a club on the up - the complete converse of CAFC under Duchatelet's lamentable tenure.
In the absence of an acceptable bid from a Premier League club, I think it is a good move for Ezri Konsa. He will - assuming he can get into the side - have a chance to prove himself at a much higher level and only be one step away from the Premier League. From his point of view, it's a step up the ladder and it avoids another year dicking around in League 1, which is absolutely not what he needs at this stage of his development. Even if someone like Brighton or Everton had taken a punt, the reality is that he'd have immediately been farmed out to a Championship club in order to get some game time. Good luck to the lad - I hope he goes on to have an excellent career.
What is quite clear, despite all the paper talk, is that no Premier League team was prepared to shell out anything approaching the alleged asking price and, even in a ridiculously inflated market, £5 million always looked way over the odds for a player who had a solid, rather than spectacular season - even for one with such potential. I suspect that, if the player was always going to move on, the Aussies would prefer it to be on Roland's watch - with an appropriate reduction in the purchase price - rather than shortly after the takeover.
It's always sad to lose one of our good youngsters but, given our station in life as a League 1 club, that trend will continue unless and until we can claw our way back up the pecking order. What matters now is the takeover and whether the new owners have a credible plan to sort the club out and move us forward, both on and off the field.
It can’t be Roland draining the last few pennies can it?
Can’t get my head around why a move to a mid table Championship club which probably has inferior facilities to ours has been agreed by anyone? All very odd...
Championship club, moving to a new stadium in the next 12 months.
Don't think it is money in RD's pocket. The club have simply realised an asset. On the books it will show a reduction in one type of asset (player value) and an increase in a another type of asset (capital reserves). But it suggests he is no longer willing to fund wages from his own pocket.
Doubt any home grown talent is on our books, just those we pay a fee for.
A lot of ignorance here towards what Brentford have become. They're the textbook model for any typical L1 club who want to break bigger
Although I don't see many of our fans agreeing with their choice to get rid of their academy.
Fair point - but they've found a method that works for them, and it's gotten them places.
I'm not saying we should follow their model - we have the fanbase, catchment area and spirit that means an academy model is still preferable. But they've worked wonders for a club of their size
Good move for him. Better option than staying with us. Going to a team on the up who play good football and which is apparently well run. Will be in a better window for bigger teams if he does well.
If £2.5m is Chris Powell’s transfer kitty: great If it’s £2.5m off the asking price so more money for transfers: same thing/great If it’s Roland’s last act: vile but goodbye
But overall it’s just sad that another Charlton youngster has been flogged off while we’re stuck in League 1 and not in the Championship where the likes of Konsa could develop and be part of a potential Premier League return.
Come on boys. Nothing changed when we lost our CEO. Not alot has changed since the CFO went. We dont look in a hurry to get a new manager and who the fuck really needs players?
Marshall, Magennis, Konsa.....we'll keep leaking 'open to offers' stories to the press until the lot are gone. Proper clear out this summer!
Good luck to Ezri, he is not in the league of Gomez but that misses the point. He is one of the better players in what is already a very small squad proven incapable of promotion from this division.
To have any chance of promotion we need to keep our better players and build on them.
Each summer since relegation from the PL we have sold our better players and fans have tried to reconcile it with ‘if the money is spent well we can improve”, with the exception of our one League One winning season we have failed to do that pretty much every year.
Some people are comforting themselves with the idea that the Aussies must have negotiated a deal whereby the purchase price drops if any assets are sold in the meantime, by the sale value of those assets. That's Ok up to a point, but only up to a point. If the asset has been sold for less than a competent management team could have achieved, it's still a problem. Konsa, a good player, has gone, and he needs to be replaced. Let's say he has gone for £2.5m as @Redhenry asserts. Personally I think that's a ridiculous price for an English U21 international. £4m seems to me more reasonable. So effectively the Aussies have to pay £1.5m more than they would have done if he had been competently sold. That's £1.5m less cash that could be pumped into the squad. And its another hole to be plugged in a squad by a management team that does not exist with half the summer break already wasted.
Glad I didn't allow myself any euphoria at the rumours that a deal was close. I'd feel even more depressed now.
not that bothered....he had more poor games than good. Too laid back. Thought he would become better than he became even under jj . Good luck ...may become another simon francis rather than another joe gomez who oozed talent. sounds sour grapes and is to a point. hope we not duchatelet get something out of this.
So you are all confident this deal was made by the new owner's?
I am not.
Also, even if it is true, if the rumour about RD getting player sale profits until the full price is paid is correct, there is no guarantee that this money is reinvested in players. It could be a gift to himself on his way out the door.
Finally, it cannot be ruled out entirely that this is a sign the deal is falling apart.
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So, we’ve sold Konsa, Lookman, Gomez and Cousins for just shy of £20m and paid the likes of Tiexiera and Sarr between 12 - 16k (although I find it hard to believe Sarr is on that!!) a week.....
I’ll leave the rest for @blackpool72 to say.
Just sell the club and FUCK OFF
In the absence of an acceptable bid from a Premier League club, I think it is a good move for Ezri Konsa. He will - assuming he can get into the side - have a chance to prove himself at a much higher level and only be one step away from the Premier League. From his point of view, it's a step up the ladder and it avoids another year dicking around in League 1, which is absolutely not what he needs at this stage of his development. Even if someone like Brighton or Everton had taken a punt, the reality is that he'd have immediately been farmed out to a Championship club in order to get some game time. Good luck to the lad - I hope he goes on to have an excellent career.
What is quite clear, despite all the paper talk, is that no Premier League team was prepared to shell out anything approaching the alleged asking price and, even in a ridiculously inflated market, £5 million always looked way over the odds for a player who had a solid, rather than spectacular season - even for one with such potential. I suspect that, if the player was always going to move on, the Aussies would prefer it to be on Roland's watch - with an appropriate reduction in the purchase price - rather than shortly after the takeover.
It's always sad to lose one of our good youngsters but, given our station in life as a League 1 club, that trend will continue unless and until we can claw our way back up the pecking order. What matters now is the takeover and whether the new owners have a credible plan to sort the club out and move us forward, both on and off the field.
They are progressing whilst we are..........
It'd be easier to take if we'd had a takeover and competents were in charge - but now, it just feels like more of the same (because it is).
With the right structures in place I think he could become a seriously good player - not that that would ever be likely with the current owner.
Pretty sickening to see the club stagnate, I sincerely hope better days lie ahead, as the last week as been bleeding horrible.
If it’s £2.5m off the asking price so more money for transfers: same thing/great
If it’s Roland’s last act: vile but goodbye
But overall it’s just sad that another Charlton youngster has been flogged off while we’re stuck in League 1 and not in the Championship where the likes of Konsa could develop and be part of a potential Premier League return.
Marshall, Magennis, Konsa.....we'll keep leaking 'open to offers' stories to the press until the lot are gone. Proper clear out this summer!
To have any chance of promotion we need to keep our better players and build on them.
Each summer since relegation from the PL we have sold our better players and fans have tried to reconcile it with ‘if the money is spent well we can improve”, with the exception of our one League One winning season we have failed to do that pretty much every year.
Glad I didn't allow myself any euphoria at the rumours that a deal was close. I'd feel even more depressed now.
I am not.
Also, even if it is true, if the rumour about RD getting player sale profits until the full price is paid is correct, there is no guarantee that this money is reinvested in players. It could be a gift to himself on his way out the door.
Finally, it cannot be ruled out entirely that this is a sign the deal is falling apart.