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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)
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Not sure why you dislike Bonne…..is that as a person or just as a very ineffective player?MintoHumbugs said:I think Cambridge usually start with Taylor with Bonne on the bench. I would hate it if either of those 2 scored. Both would easily make my first 11 most disliked ex Charlton players.I can see Taylor possibly going back to AFC Wimbledon next season ? ( If they don’t get promoted ). Bonne might be lucky and play in league 2 but wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Non League ( his luck getting league clubs has to run out some time ).The latter I can understand but as far as I know he did nothing to make himself disliked as a person.1 -
SoundAsa£ said:
Not sure why you dislike Bonne…..is that as a person or just as a very ineffective player?MintoHumbugs said:I think Cambridge usually start with Taylor with Bonne on the bench. I would hate it if either of those 2 scored. Both would easily make my first 11 most disliked ex Charlton players.I can see Taylor possibly going back to AFC Wimbledon next season ? ( If they don’t get promoted ). Bonne might be lucky and play in league 2 but wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Non League ( his luck getting league clubs has to run out some time ).The latter I can understand but as far as I know he did nothing to make himself disliked as a person.
When he left he chose his words badly along the lines of his head was turned when he heard of QPR's interest, it was a bit muggy as I recall and didn't go down well. Then I think his wife had a bit of a moan up. Whoever our manager was when he came back made a big thing of saying he had talked to him about it all.
I wasn't at Gills away this season but again I don't think he really ingratiated himself to our fans there either.
He also liked some Ipswich social media stuff on our game just after they thumped us 6-0 with him playing for us.
But mainly, you are right, it is because he is a dreadful player.2 -
Didn't think the 'head turned' by QPR was bad, people made a mountain out of a molehill about a guy suggesting he fancied a move to a higher league when he heard there was interest.
But then last time he was here didn't he go on social media and basically celebrate Ipswich thrashing us in a game he played in? That was an arsehole move.
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Reckless and dangerous driving in a residential streetSoundAsa£ said:
Not sure why you dislike Bonne…..is that as a person or just as a very ineffective player?MintoHumbugs said:I think Cambridge usually start with Taylor with Bonne on the bench. I would hate it if either of those 2 scored. Both would easily make my first 11 most disliked ex Charlton players.I can see Taylor possibly going back to AFC Wimbledon next season ? ( If they don’t get promoted ). Bonne might be lucky and play in league 2 but wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Non League ( his luck getting league clubs has to run out some time ).The latter I can understand but as far as I know he did nothing to make himself disliked as a person.
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He is a complete simpleton.5
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I agree with you on Taylor . I dispute Kins offering more than Parker . Parker was our best player most weeks between December 00 and December 03 in the premier league against every team . Kins was superb - he did play well in our first two premier league seasons but he didn’t dominate against the elite like ParkerKingKinsella said:
Waited to respond to this.TelMc32 said:
Sticks in the throat a little that someone who invokes the name of one of our greatest ever captains, a player who drove us on during some of our most successful years, has such a love-in for a toe rag who downed tools and couldn’t be arsed to put on a shirt when he was needed most 🤷🏻♂️KingKinsella said:
He has a particular set of skills, which are still lacking in our current squad. Particularly hold up play , but also every other aspect of striker's role, mainly strikers instinct, physicality, contribution to defensive duties, and one question mark is whether mobility/speed would have deteriorated in his long lay-off.. At the time, pre Xmas it wasn't clear if the current owners had /were prepared to spend money . This has changed in the last 2 weeks. He was available on a free so would have improved our squad in skills we are lacking. It's all changed now we may well buy a striker and Taylor is under contract at Cambridge. So a missed opportunity, but the owners are willing to burn some money (their money). I hope it works out well.iaitch said:
Do you mean a forward or someone who withdraws their labour?KingKinsella said:Ha ! Ha! Scores one makes one and sets up a sitter which is missed by a colleague. Just saying. We could have had him for free. He would have taught these youngsters thing about holding the ball up.About being a striker.
Just saying. We'll see by the end of the season. When he scores the winner against us ( and sends us down? I hope we're clear by then)
JUST SAYING.
Kinsella is as far I'm concerned THE greatest captain that I saw* . What you say about his fighting spirit is spot on. You omitted his level of skill, which was considerable, including a block tackle that would stop a JCB, and an accurate and powerful shot too rarely seen as a DM. Skill wise I would rate Scott Parker better, but as a package Kinsella gave more to the cause imo, if I remember correctly in the first P~L season only Roy Keane had better stats. He always put heart and soul into a performance for CAFC. . He played for Ireland with similar commitment and success, and did a great job when Keane walked out.
Lyle Taylor is not on the same page. But neither are we. We are in a poor situation.In L1. If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement. At L1 level he has a particular set of skills including hold up play and also ability to defend as well as all the other goal scoring traits that would make him a candidate. Wycombe were unlucky and probably just paid him whilst he was getting up to speed.
Its "early days" but he has scored 3 for Cambridge, but as I say "lets see at the end of the season".
The moment has passed and he has signed for Cambridge. But, at the time he was available he was in a weak negotiating position, and there was a lot in the CAFC club media about reducing losses from £8m/pa to £1-2m /pa. So LT was a bargain which fitted the budget. He had the skills, there were questions about his mobility and "whether " he still had "the edge/reactions" of a striker.
By the way I have never said I liked him. I understand that he didn't play in those final games as he could make a lot of money on his next contract.That was a rational decision for him. Bowyer accepted this (grudgingly/reluctantly). It's all business, and making money.
I also think that the injuries over the Xmas period 10 games with 14 senior pros out had more to do with our relegation than 3 games (which he was contracted to play) and a few more (extended season due to Covid -players were not contracted to play but some volunteered).
Forget your notions of "playing for the shirt"- not like Kinsella who would have laid down in front of that JCB.
LT was an opportunity to get a player with L1 skills we needed. Put emotion aside.
* I've supported CAFC since '66. You may have seen better captains in that time, there are gaps when I moved from the area, had young kids and couldn't afford the money and /or the time to attend. Only saying he's the best I remember from my attendances at the Valley.0 -
Surely it's an absolute certainty that he will score against us?6
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For us Parker was IMO the more accomplished player.wmcf123 said:
I agree with you on Taylor . I dispute Kins offering more than Parker . Parker was our best player most weeks between December 00 and December 03 in the premier league against every team . Kins was superb - he did play well in our first two premier league seasons but he didn’t dominate against the elite like ParkerKingKinsella said:
Waited to respond to this.TelMc32 said:
Sticks in the throat a little that someone who invokes the name of one of our greatest ever captains, a player who drove us on during some of our most successful years, has such a love-in for a toe rag who downed tools and couldn’t be arsed to put on a shirt when he was needed most 🤷🏻♂️KingKinsella said:
He has a particular set of skills, which are still lacking in our current squad. Particularly hold up play , but also every other aspect of striker's role, mainly strikers instinct, physicality, contribution to defensive duties, and one question mark is whether mobility/speed would have deteriorated in his long lay-off.. At the time, pre Xmas it wasn't clear if the current owners had /were prepared to spend money . This has changed in the last 2 weeks. He was available on a free so would have improved our squad in skills we are lacking. It's all changed now we may well buy a striker and Taylor is under contract at Cambridge. So a missed opportunity, but the owners are willing to burn some money (their money). I hope it works out well.iaitch said:
Do you mean a forward or someone who withdraws their labour?KingKinsella said:Ha ! Ha! Scores one makes one and sets up a sitter which is missed by a colleague. Just saying. We could have had him for free. He would have taught these youngsters thing about holding the ball up.About being a striker.
Just saying. We'll see by the end of the season. When he scores the winner against us ( and sends us down? I hope we're clear by then)
JUST SAYING.
Kinsella is as far I'm concerned THE greatest captain that I saw* . What you say about his fighting spirit is spot on. You omitted his level of skill, which was considerable, including a block tackle that would stop a JCB, and an accurate and powerful shot too rarely seen as a DM. Skill wise I would rate Scott Parker better, but as a package Kinsella gave more to the cause imo, if I remember correctly in the first P~L season only Roy Keane had better stats. He always put heart and soul into a performance for CAFC. . He played for Ireland with similar commitment and success, and did a great job when Keane walked out.
Lyle Taylor is not on the same page. But neither are we. We are in a poor situation.In L1. If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement. At L1 level he has a particular set of skills including hold up play and also ability to defend as well as all the other goal scoring traits that would make him a candidate. Wycombe were unlucky and probably just paid him whilst he was getting up to speed.
Its "early days" but he has scored 3 for Cambridge, but as I say "lets see at the end of the season".
The moment has passed and he has signed for Cambridge. But, at the time he was available he was in a weak negotiating position, and there was a lot in the CAFC club media about reducing losses from £8m/pa to £1-2m /pa. So LT was a bargain which fitted the budget. He had the skills, there were questions about his mobility and "whether " he still had "the edge/reactions" of a striker.
By the way I have never said I liked him. I understand that he didn't play in those final games as he could make a lot of money on his next contract.That was a rational decision for him. Bowyer accepted this (grudgingly/reluctantly). It's all business, and making money.
I also think that the injuries over the Xmas period 10 games with 14 senior pros out had more to do with our relegation than 3 games (which he was contracted to play) and a few more (extended season due to Covid -players were not contracted to play but some volunteered).
Forget your notions of "playing for the shirt"- not like Kinsella who would have laid down in front of that JCB.
LT was an opportunity to get a player with L1 skills we needed. Put emotion aside.
* I've supported CAFC since '66. You may have seen better captains in that time, there are gaps when I moved from the area, had young kids and couldn't afford the money and /or the time to attend. Only saying he's the best I remember from my attendances at the Valley.
But Kinsella knitted the team together and was our leader.
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I remember an article in a paper in our first season in the Premiership that said that Kinsella was competing extremely well against Keane/Vieira/Ince etc but was hampered by Redfern and the teams lack of goals etc. Kins was a brilliant captain, coming from Colchester United and being Irish player of the year in 2000. He dominated until his knees gave out and Parkers' ability to carry the ball and overall dynamism overtook Kinsella's midfield General style of play.wmcf123 said:
I agree with you on Taylor . I dispute Kins offering more than Parker . Parker was our best player most weeks between December 00 and December 03 in the premier league against every team . Kins was superb - he did play well in our first two premier league seasons but he didn’t dominate against the elite like ParkerKingKinsella said:
Waited to respond to this.TelMc32 said:
Sticks in the throat a little that someone who invokes the name of one of our greatest ever captains, a player who drove us on during some of our most successful years, has such a love-in for a toe rag who downed tools and couldn’t be arsed to put on a shirt when he was needed most 🤷🏻♂️KingKinsella said:
He has a particular set of skills, which are still lacking in our current squad. Particularly hold up play , but also every other aspect of striker's role, mainly strikers instinct, physicality, contribution to defensive duties, and one question mark is whether mobility/speed would have deteriorated in his long lay-off.. At the time, pre Xmas it wasn't clear if the current owners had /were prepared to spend money . This has changed in the last 2 weeks. He was available on a free so would have improved our squad in skills we are lacking. It's all changed now we may well buy a striker and Taylor is under contract at Cambridge. So a missed opportunity, but the owners are willing to burn some money (their money). I hope it works out well.iaitch said:
Do you mean a forward or someone who withdraws their labour?KingKinsella said:Ha ! Ha! Scores one makes one and sets up a sitter which is missed by a colleague. Just saying. We could have had him for free. He would have taught these youngsters thing about holding the ball up.About being a striker.
Just saying. We'll see by the end of the season. When he scores the winner against us ( and sends us down? I hope we're clear by then)
JUST SAYING.
Kinsella is as far I'm concerned THE greatest captain that I saw* . What you say about his fighting spirit is spot on. You omitted his level of skill, which was considerable, including a block tackle that would stop a JCB, and an accurate and powerful shot too rarely seen as a DM. Skill wise I would rate Scott Parker better, but as a package Kinsella gave more to the cause imo, if I remember correctly in the first P~L season only Roy Keane had better stats. He always put heart and soul into a performance for CAFC. . He played for Ireland with similar commitment and success, and did a great job when Keane walked out.
Lyle Taylor is not on the same page. But neither are we. We are in a poor situation.In L1. If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement. At L1 level he has a particular set of skills including hold up play and also ability to defend as well as all the other goal scoring traits that would make him a candidate. Wycombe were unlucky and probably just paid him whilst he was getting up to speed.
Its "early days" but he has scored 3 for Cambridge, but as I say "lets see at the end of the season".
The moment has passed and he has signed for Cambridge. But, at the time he was available he was in a weak negotiating position, and there was a lot in the CAFC club media about reducing losses from £8m/pa to £1-2m /pa. So LT was a bargain which fitted the budget. He had the skills, there were questions about his mobility and "whether " he still had "the edge/reactions" of a striker.
By the way I have never said I liked him. I understand that he didn't play in those final games as he could make a lot of money on his next contract.That was a rational decision for him. Bowyer accepted this (grudgingly/reluctantly). It's all business, and making money.
I also think that the injuries over the Xmas period 10 games with 14 senior pros out had more to do with our relegation than 3 games (which he was contracted to play) and a few more (extended season due to Covid -players were not contracted to play but some volunteered).
Forget your notions of "playing for the shirt"- not like Kinsella who would have laid down in front of that JCB.
LT was an opportunity to get a player with L1 skills we needed. Put emotion aside.
* I've supported CAFC since '66. You may have seen better captains in that time, there are gaps when I moved from the area, had young kids and couldn't afford the money and /or the time to attend. Only saying he's the best I remember from my attendances at the Valley.4 -
The original reason was a comment when with us saying "his head was turned" by QPR, or words to that effect.Chunes said:
Reckless and dangerous driving in a residential streetSoundAsa£ said:
Not sure why you dislike Bonne…..is that as a person or just as a very ineffective player?MintoHumbugs said:I think Cambridge usually start with Taylor with Bonne on the bench. I would hate it if either of those 2 scored. Both would easily make my first 11 most disliked ex Charlton players.I can see Taylor possibly going back to AFC Wimbledon next season ? ( If they don’t get promoted ). Bonne might be lucky and play in league 2 but wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Non League ( his luck getting league clubs has to run out some time ).The latter I can understand but as far as I know he did nothing to make himself disliked as a person.0 - Sponsored links:
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Have any tickets been allocated for the Cambridge game? would love to see them relegated, come Cheltenhan you can catchem!!!0
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I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.12
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There’s no doubt about it, he will get it big time when we play them.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.0 -
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There’s no doubt about it, he will get it big time when we play them.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.
And he won't give a F. He loves the attention.
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I’d personally like to see Cambridge stay up. A mate of mine is involved with their supporters’ trust and it’s an excellent away trip (although a pity about the rail replacement service next month). Taylor is on a short-term deal with Cambridge and, like Bonne, who is on loan from Gillingham, won’t be there after the end of this season. I don’t suppose either of them give a toss about the fortunes of Cambridge United.8
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He is a massive ego and loves being the centre of attention whether it’s is getting praise or ‘getting abuse’.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.
The thing he would least expect, and would bruise his ego more, would be for Charlton fans to absolutely ignore him and pretend his didn’t even exist.
Why bother giving him something to feed off, by shouting pointless swear words at him which will just let him raise his game.
Why don’t we just spend our time singing praises about how Alfie May is our best striker in years instead. Expect that will annoy him much more.
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Think there are levels though. This isn't just about oppo fans thinking he's a bit of a prick. There will be genuine hatred for him. Always remember Chris Armstrong and Kevin Muscat crumbling under the grief we gave them and this will be a level up from that.FishCostaFortune said:
He is a massive ego and loves being the centre of attention whether it’s is getting praise or ‘getting abuse’.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.
The thing he would least expect, and would bruise his ego more, would be for Charlton fans to absolutely ignore him and pretend his didn’t even exist.
Why bother giving him something to feed off, by shouting pointless swear words at him which will just let him raise his game.
Why don’t we just spend our time singing praises about how Alfie May is our best striker in years instead. Expect that will annoy him much more.5 -
For once I'd like to see a banner at football. And that banner to read
"LYLE TAYLOR PUSSY AND BOTTLE JOB"9 -
There would be a certain level of karmic satisfaction if George Dobson’s last act as a Charlton player was to injure him ahead of his contract expiry.18
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Who’s he? Muscat I remember very well of course, and the reason for it. It was delicious. But that other name I don’t register at all.AllHailTheHen said:
Think there are levels though. This isn't just about oppo fans thinking he's a bit of a prick. There will be genuine hatred for him. Always remember Chris Armstrong and Kevin Muscat crumbling under the grief we gave them and this will be a level up from that.FishCostaFortune said:
He is a massive ego and loves being the centre of attention whether it’s is getting praise or ‘getting abuse’.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.
The thing he would least expect, and would bruise his ego more, would be for Charlton fans to absolutely ignore him and pretend his didn’t even exist.
Why bother giving him something to feed off, by shouting pointless swear words at him which will just let him raise his game.
Why don’t we just spend our time singing praises about how Alfie May is our best striker in years instead. Expect that will annoy him much more.0 - Sponsored links:
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I think it's in reference to the Anglo Itallian game against Palace when he took some stick and got sent off. This carried onto the Colin Walsh Testimonal gamePragueAddick said:
Who’s he? Muscat I remember very well of course, and the reason for it. It was delicious. But that other name I don’t register at all.AllHailTheHen said:
Think there are levels though. This isn't just about oppo fans thinking he's a bit of a prick. There will be genuine hatred for him. Always remember Chris Armstrong and Kevin Muscat crumbling under the grief we gave them and this will be a level up from that.FishCostaFortune said:
He is a massive ego and loves being the centre of attention whether it’s is getting praise or ‘getting abuse’.AllHailTheHen said:I know he might thrive on riling up opposition supporters but I hope our lot give Taylor absolute dogs abuse when we play them. It would be thoroughly deserved.
The thing he would least expect, and would bruise his ego more, would be for Charlton fans to absolutely ignore him and pretend his didn’t even exist.
Why bother giving him something to feed off, by shouting pointless swear words at him which will just let him raise his game.
Why don’t we just spend our time singing praises about how Alfie May is our best striker in years instead. Expect that will annoy him much more.2 -
Ignore him, don’t give him the attention he so badly wants.7
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That’s the best way but it won’t happenusetobunkin said:Ignore him, don’t give him the attention he so badly wants.2 -
Has anyone ever seen @RonnieMoore and Lyle Taylor in the same room?usetobunkin said:Ignore him, don’t give him the attention he so badly wants.6 -
Ignoring him clearly won't happen so max out with ultimate shithousery against him is the only option. Plus frankly, it is a nothing game at the end of the season for us so if he scores and celebrates in front of us, so what. It will be a hollow victory and he will know it.
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There’s a good chance they could be in, or at least still not safe from relegation, so not sure it would be hollow victory for him and Cambridge if he scores (unless we are 3-0 up).Athletico Charlton said:Ignoring him clearly won't happen so max out with ultimate shithousery against him is the only option. Plus frankly, it is a nothing game at the end of the season for us so if he scores and celebrates in front of us, so what. It will be a hollow victory and he will know it.
Also what do you define as shithousery? Knowing the sort of player Taylor is, how he thrives, how do you think he will react to chants about him?
Do you think he is going to go into his shell and regret his decisions, or do you think, as we saw plenty of times, he will use that focus to up his game.
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It'll be a hollow victory because we are safe so if he scores and gets lary at us, so what. He also won't give two shits if Cambridge stay up or not.
Couldn't care less how he reacts to chants against him tbh, footy is theatre and entertainment. Do you really expect fans to not join in. The partisan atmosphere is one of the things that makes it such a great game. The joy and despair. Embrace it.0 -
Who?usetobunkin said:Ignore him, don’t give him the attention he so badly wants.3 -
The evidence over the last few years would suggest he hasn’t got much, if any, ‘game’ left to up.FishCostaFortune said:
There’s a good chance they could be in, or at least still not safe from relegation, so not sure it would be hollow victory for him and Cambridge if he scores (unless we are 3-0 up).Athletico Charlton said:Ignoring him clearly won't happen so max out with ultimate shithousery against him is the only option. Plus frankly, it is a nothing game at the end of the season for us so if he scores and celebrates in front of us, so what. It will be a hollow victory and he will know it.
Also what do you define as shithousery? Knowing the sort of player Taylor is, how he thrives, how do you think he will react to chants about him?
Do you think he is going to go into his shell and regret his decisions, or do you think, as we saw plenty of times, he will use that focus to up his game.
I much expect the latter.
When he looks back on his career, his time with us will be where he achieved the most as a footballer and he fucked it all by himself.
His footballing legacy will be that he screwed over his team mates, fans and the club he was most successful at.
I personally can’t wait to let him know, although I acknowledge that as he’s a narcissist, it won’t affect him much.
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The best thing we could do is not go to the match, can you imagine Taylor & Bonne celebrating a goal each , in front of zero Charlton fans.4
