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Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,735
    Chunes said:
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
    How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad . 
  • His excellency has posted that he was with Steven Gerrard today.

    Lyle to Rangers confirmed.
  • His excellency has posted that he was with Steven Gerrard today.

    Lyle to Rangers confirmed.
    And he called him Steven Grade lol
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well. 
  • Reminds me in some ways of the Kermogant episode. (Though I think Yann was a better player, and RD should have kept him).

    Taylor's agent presumably upped his clients demands when it became known the new owners were based in Abu Dhabi and the club too the view instead that Taylor wasn't good enough to be given exceptional treatment.

    I wonder of they saw this coming? The attempt to sign Armand Gnanduillet last summer might have been as a long stop for when Taylor left, because otherwise why would you replace one with the other? AG isn't IMO a shoe in for a side looking to finish in the upper levels of the Championship.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    cafcfan said:
    And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well. 
    What is bonus vitriol? 

    An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    He needs to be kept until the end of the season unless we get a silly offer. Lots of time for him to change his mind. 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    cafcfan said:
    And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well. 
    What is bonus vitriol? 

    An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me. 
    It was my attempt at a joke. Cawley said he didn't deserve vitriol. I thought it would be amusing to suggest that a footballer's agent might not understand the word and assume his player was missing out on something good.  Clearly my odd sense of humour is set to fail mode again.
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  • cafcfan said:
    cafcfan said:
    And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well. 
    What is bonus vitriol? 

    An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me. 
    It was my attempt at a joke. Cawley said he didn't deserve vitriol. I thought it would be amusing to suggest that a footballer's agent might not understand the word and assume his player was missing out on something good.  Clearly my odd sense of humour is set to fail mode again.
    No need for the self-deprecation @cafcfan - vitriol is one of my favourite words and to ally it with bonus was a stoke of genius. For those of a certain age - well Captain Beefheart was a past master of the art of bringing two unrelated words together and running with them -- fast and bulbous for example.

    I guess we should get back on topic however - any news Lyle?
  • Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
    How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad . 
    There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
    TBH if I was in a car with Curbs I wouldn't say anything unless he specifically told me to.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
    How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad . 
    There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
    Mendonca knew fine dining when he saw it.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
    How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad . 
    There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
    TBH if I was in a car with Curbs I wouldn't say anything unless he specifically told me to.
    Most people would have been asleep before reaching the Motorway with Curbishley in the car. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    cafcfan said:
    And therein lies the problem - Lyle's agent has heard other players get bonus vitriol included in their contract riders and is demanding some for his boy as well. 
    What is bonus vitriol? 

    An angry, spiteful and vindictive argument with cutting invective and spittle at the corners of the mouth? Seems like an odd request in a contract to me. 
    Our new half African half South American signing. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    MS "Lyle is not for sale, even if he doesn’t sign a new deal he’s here until the end of the season." 

    boom
    Cue Taylor sending cryptic messages on twitter and then being injured until May. 


    You seen his instagram post from 2mins ago?

    Rather odd... just a little moonwalking dog? about as cryptic as it can get.

    I just came on here to say... 

    I don't think we can take Lyle's actions as anything negative on the club. Lyle is frankly a bit odd. He is fantastic striker and talisman but he has a curious personality. 

    Not that he needs to be normal. Clive Mendonca was famously odd as well.
    How was Clive odd ? He struck me as a normal working class Sunderland lad . 
    There were a few stories. But the one that stuck out was Alan Curbishley driving him from Sunderland back to the Valley. Spoke to him the whole way. Clive never spoke back, except once, when he was looking out the window as they passed a restaurant: "Oh, you've got Little Chef down here."
    I thought the story was that Clive was quiet all the way down from Sunderland until they got close to E London & upon seeing a sign for Chigwell he said...."my missus loves birds of a feather"......

    Or something close to that. Remember Curbs telling that "tale" at a Bromley supporters meeting one time 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Charlton wouldn't be in the Championship without Lyle Taylor.

    Equally Lyle Taylor would unlikely be in the Championship without Lee Bowyer
    Pretty sure he'd have been the difference for Sunderland...
    If Taylor had signed for them instead of us, Sunderland would've easily won league one last season.
  • FFS offer Lyle a bit more and get him signed up he is our main hope of keeping in championship,if these new owners mean business lyle along with the manager and staff should of been signed up by now,this was a priority for me,Im disappointed this hasnt happened
    I don’t think we can operate like that In the current situation.  If we offer Taylor a bit more and he turns that down, do we offer him a bit more again? Matt Southall spoke about sustainability. Not sure it’s prudent to keep making players offers when we know he has turned down a good offer already - the maximum we want to go to.
    In the grand scheme of things, we are currently a struggling Championship side with crowds of circa 17k. We could quite easily go down and have a 30 year old striker on 18k+ a week on our hands.  Sunderland did that and look where they are now. It’s taken them a couple of years to clear out players on mega contracts - this is a team that get gates of 40k. 
    Taylor is doing what he should be doing - trying to get as much money as he can at the back end of his career. Say we did give him what he wanted - then what? - Players knocking at the door asking for more money. The owners can’t be seen to be rolling over and having there belly tickled. 
    I want Taylor to stay - he’s our main goal scorer and talisman....So were Hales, Bent, Mendonca, Hunt, Kermorgant etc, etc. They moved on and we moved on. Taylor will move on and somebody else will come in and be the main man. 
    The offer made to Taylor is off the table now and I actually quite like the fact that Southall had the balls to withdraw the offer and not be held to ransom. 

    Superb post. It'd also have a knock on effect to new signings too. If we give Taylor 18k a week then a new signing coming in with more experience at a higher level than Taylor says he wants 20k and it quickly gets out of control.
  • tony1234
    tony1234 Posts: 181
    I’ve herd bows and taylor had a big argument at half time at Swansea 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    Couldn't have been that big as its taken 9 days to emerge.
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    tony1234 said:
    I’ve herd bows and taylor had a big argument at half time at Swansea 
    Good
  • Sick of it now.  He's had months of being paid for fuck all after injury in a match for someone else.  Time for a bit of loyalty.  Great player but we have team and a club to think about.  Step up or sod off.
  • Sick of it now.  He's had months of being paid for fuck all after injury in a match for someone else.  Time for a bit of loyalty.  Great player but we have team and a club to think about.  Step up or sod off.

    *****

    Loyalty in football is almost non existent.
  • Sick of it now.  He's had months of being paid for fuck all after injury in a match for someone else.  Time for a bit of loyalty.  Great player but we have team and a club to think about.  Step up or sod off.

    *****

    Loyalty in football is almost non existent.
    Sadly. 

    If I went off sick and was supported by my employer for 4 months I'd take that into account when talking about what I was worth...
  • Even if injury was a known risk of your employment?
  • If someone offered to pay me £1.5m rather than £500k and then £5k extra a week and my job was going to end in 2-4 years I’d be taking the money no matter how much I liked my current boss. 
    Absolutely.  What I wouldn't do is dick around trying to negotiate a few extra quid causing problems all round.  I'd thank the boss for the support and go or stay and do my job.
  • Even if injury was a known risk of your employment?
    If I injured myself working for someone else and was still supported through it, definitely....
  • Jesus would people give over whinging about the fella

    There are no guarantees that he's going to leave the club at the moment, might yet sign a new deal and is going to make everyone look a dick for all this bed wetting

    If of course he leaves this month or lets his contract run down then people can say how they feel about him

    Its laughable because everyone said that Grant should have stayed till the end of the season waiting till promotion was confirmed or not and would have left with everyone's blessing

    Could argue that Lyle is going to do that, he'll stay, help secure us Championship Football and then leave

    At the moment it just looks a load of bitterness from fans who think loyalty only works one way, if a decent player doesnt stay for as long as they're needed then they're traitors or whatever... Get released because they're not good enough, meh!! thats fine
  • As a additional thought do we even know what the argument was about between Bowyer / Taylor if there was one?

    Seeing that Lyle hadnt done anything wrong on the pitch (other than show a lack of full fitness, hence the thigh injury) how do any of us know the argument was because Lyle didnt want to come off in the first place?

    We saw from Bonne that he wanted to continue, same with why the rules got changed with players being allowed to continue with concussion!!