Totally different strikers both with numerous qualities. If I was a centre half I wouldn’t wanna mark either of them for different reasons. They’d make a fantastic partnership I know that.
As for Taylor at Forest, glad to see he’s having a tough time although his bank balance has never looked prettier.
His agent got him more money. Taylor is not a Charlton fan, he's a professional footballer. Half a dozen bad games and there would be 5000 posts on the Has Lyle Taylor Lost It? thread. If we think then long term Taylor would have made more money by staying and developing as a footballer then fair enough.
He's not even a Football fan, he's admitted himself that he doesnt "get" the whole tribalism of the sport
It's ok to have a unique opinion and go against the regime. Nothing wrong with it and it can be a form of entertainment. The nutcase will always thrive.
Lyle is just a bit lost though.
He doesn't play football for anyone, other then himself and It's boring. A championship footballer player that thinks he's a maverick and or a philosopher. I doubt he has any mates in that forest dressing room.
If you want to go down that road, fair enough, up to you.
The non football fan quote is just a defence mechanism because he does actually still feel guilty about his betrayal to the club that made him.
He knows he's a knobhead. At least that's something.
Taylor's ego won't like the fact he isn't the main man and isn't getting hardly any minutes irrespective of his view on football as a career. His bank balance will console him a bit but as a sad and bitter Charlton fan I'm delighted to see his "dream" move turning out to be a bit of a damp squib.
Forest may well want to move him on in the summer and maybe he will be seen as a 1 season wonder at championship level. Plus with his reputation as being a bit of a mercenary he may not be that attractive to other clubs in the second tier. I can but hope!
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer. We were half the team without Lyle in 2018 19 and look at the impact it had when he got injured last season.
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer.
If you're talking purely goals then yes Taylor had a better record for us. If you're talking about overall quality as a footballer Yann was much better. He also proved it at Championship level with 2 other clubs with Bournemouth and Reading fans all thinking extremely highly of him. Taylor had half a good season in the Championship. He probably peaked in his time with us yet Yann carried it on even after he left us.
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer.
If you're talking purely goals then yes Taylor had a better record for us. If you're talking about overall quality as a footballer Yann was much better. He also proved it at Championship level with 2 other clubs with Bournemouth and Reading fans all thinking extremely highly of him. Taylor had half a good season in the Championship. He probably peaked in his time with us yet Yann carried it on even after he left us.
I'm purely talking about when they were with us. Taylor in his pomp was quick, strong and a lethal finisher. An all rounder.
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer. We were half the team without Lyle in 2018 19 and look at the impact it had when he got injured last season.
It's not strange. Just a valid opinion.
People will obviously side with Yann for a number of reasons.
They were both great when they played for us and things were going well.
You can't really compare them as they offered different sides to the game. Not the same sort of player.
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer.
If you're talking purely goals then yes Taylor had a better record for us. If you're talking about overall quality as a footballer Yann was much better. He also proved it at Championship level with 2 other clubs with Bournemouth and Reading fans all thinking extremely highly of him. Taylor had half a good season in the Championship. He probably peaked in his time with us yet Yann carried it on even after he left us.
I'm purely talking about when they were with us. Taylor in his pomp was quick, strong and a lethal finisher. An all rounder.
Different types of players in my view but it is a close one if you're looking purely at their time with us . Both equally talismanic but had different strengths. I don't think Yann was ever really an out and out goalscorer but just seemed to bring so much to that promotion winning team. I still think Yann was better player technically but do also think that people's judgement on how good Taylor was for us will be clouded by the fact he is a massive bellend.
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer. We were half the team without Lyle in 2018 19 and look at the impact it had when he got injured last season.
So if Taylor has a 1 in 2, and say Vardy has a scoring record of 1 in 3.... Taylor is better than Jamie Vardy?
This is Lyle's second year in the Championship, has 15-goals in total!!
Yann scored that many in one season for Bouremouth which got them promoted to the Premier League - He then got 18-goals for Reading, got them to the Play-Off Final, and got 12-goals for Charlton in a single season which almost got us to the Play-Offs
All that beginning from the same age that Lyle is now - So lets see if he can replicate Yann's scoring at this level?
If he can then I'll concede the point that Lyle is better than Kermorgant
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer. We were half the team without Lyle in 2018 19 and look at the impact it had when he got injured last season.
So if Taylor has a 1 in 2, and say Vardy has a scoring record of 1 in 3.... Taylor is better than Jamie Vardy?
This is Lyle's second year in the Championship, has 15-goals in total!!
Yann scored that many in one season for Bouremouth which got them promoted to the Premier League - He then got 18-goals for Reading, got them to the Play-Off Final, and got 12-goals for Charlton in a single season which almost got us to the Play-Offs
All that beginning from the same age that Lyle is now - So lets see if he can replicate Yann's scoring at this level?
If he can then I'll concede the point that Lyle is better than Kermorgant
Im talking about their time with us, I couldn't care less about either of there records for other teams. Lyle is a lot more reliant on pace, so I don't think he will have the same longevity, his injury last year lost him a yard or two.
His agent got him more money. Taylor is not a Charlton fan, he's a professional footballer. Half a dozen bad games and there would be 5000 posts on the Has Lyle Taylor Lost It? thread. If we think then long term Taylor would have made more money by staying and developing as a footballer then fair enough.
He's not even a Football fan, he's admitted himself that he doesnt "get" the whole tribalism of the sport
It's ok to have a unique opinion and go against the regime. Nothing wrong with it and it can be a form of entertainment. The nutcase will always thrive.
Lyle is just a bit lost though.
He doesn't play football for anyone, other then himself and It's boring. A championship footballer player that thinks he's a maverick and or a philosopher. I doubt he has any mates in that forest dressing room.
If you want to go down that road, fair enough, up to you.
The non football fan quote is just a defence mechanism because he does actually still feel guilty about his betrayal to the club that made him.
He knows he's a knobhead. At least that's something.
Won't ever admit it though.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's so disillusioned with football that he gives it up and joins the Priesthood....:-)
Who remembers Yann for Bournemouth against us when they got promoted 2015 I think, he was literally unplayable and we had a solid mid table championship team then, a proper technician who was also unpredictable.
Who remembers Yann for Bournemouth against us when they got promoted 2015 I think, he was literally unplayable and we had a solid mid table championship team then, a proper technician who was also unpredictable.
Imprinted on my memory, that game. I remember as the second one went in, I blurted out "Oh what a good goal". I don't think I ever before voiced that out loud at The Valley. I suppose the fact we weren't playing for anything helped, but even so...
Yann was absolute mustard. One of my top 5 favourite players. Lacked that bit of pace to be a Premier League striker, but had everything else. Taylor had that little bit of pace but Yann was a much better player than Taylor in all other ways. That being said, Taylor was the closest we came to replacing that talismanic, I don't give a chuff what you think swagger that Yann had, just Yann carried that attitude with way more class.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
That’s naivety from him and his agent then. Even we know that Forest play one up front, and Taylor was never going to be above Grabban as the main man. Even worse for his ego now, he’s third choice striker.
Taylor has said that when he spoke to their manager at the time of signing (Lamouchie sp?) he was assured that he was going to be played as part of a front 2. I think for the first couple of games that might have happened (maybe not from kick off but during the match) but results then changed the managers thinking & Forest went with 1 main striker - which was alternated between Grabban & Taylor. Then Lamouchie was sacked & Houghton came in. Again Taylor was reassured (iirc) that he would feature up front but again results have dictated different tactics......as well as bringing in a 36 year old striker who has scored goals for the manager before.
Perhaps it might have been naive of Taylor to have assumed that the manager would tell him the truth rather than what he wanted to hear.
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As for Taylor at Forest, glad to see he’s having a tough time although his bank balance has never looked prettier.
It's ok to have a unique opinion and go against the regime. Nothing wrong with it and it can be a form of entertainment. The nutcase will always thrive.
Lyle is just a bit lost though.
He doesn't play football for anyone, other then himself and It's boring. A championship footballer player that thinks he's a maverick and or a philosopher. I doubt he has any mates in that forest dressing room.
If you want to go down that road, fair enough, up to you.
The non football fan quote is just a defence mechanism because he does actually still feel guilty about his betrayal to the club that made him.
He knows he's a knobhead. At least that's something.
Won't ever admit it though.
Forest may well want to move him on in the summer and maybe he will be seen as a 1 season wonder at championship level. Plus with his reputation as being a bit of a mercenary he may not be that attractive to other clubs in the second tier. I can but hope!
It's not strange. Just a valid opinion.
People will obviously side with Yann for a number of reasons.
They were both great when they played for us and things were going well.
You can't really compare them as they offered different sides to the game. Not the same sort of player.
This is Lyle's second year in the Championship, has 15-goals in total!!
Yann scored that many in one season for Bouremouth which got them promoted to the Premier League - He then got 18-goals for Reading, got them to the Play-Off Final, and got 12-goals for Charlton in a single season which almost got us to the Play-Offs
All that beginning from the same age that Lyle is now - So lets see if he can replicate Yann's scoring at this level?
If he can then I'll concede the point that Lyle is better than Kermorgant
Yann every day of the week.
Perhaps it might have been naive of Taylor to have assumed that the manager would tell him the truth rather than what he wanted to hear.