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Lyle Taylor - signed for Colchester (p284)

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  • Don't know if I missed this but why were the Cambridge fans calling him a wanker in the first place ?
  •  a whole stand no less
    he took a census
  • Awwwww diddums



    I make the prick right on this.  Many modern football fans are proper tarts dishing it out from the safety of the stands then crying on social media when a player responds in kind.
    We pay to go. They get paid to play. If they look like they're being paid but can be bothered, they deserve stick. I'm not sure what right the player has to express their dissatisfactions at the fans, in that situation. 
  • I thought Bowyer said that Lyle had spoken to him said he doesn't feel fully committed or some shit about being mentally right to play out the last few games and Bowyer agreed to knob off him and Solly .

    We should have just played a half hearted Taylor he'd have done better than the shit players who saw the season out 
  • Don't know if I missed this but why were the Cambridge fans calling him a wanker in the first place ?
    He gave away a penalty 
  • Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Swisdom said:
    se9addick said:
    He’s going to wake up one day and realise he’s wasted his career. He’s the opposite of Bonne in many ways. I’m astonished Bonne has made a career as a professional footballer despite having no real talent or attributes. Taylor has wasted the talent and attributes he has and not achieved nearly as much as he could of. 
    Has he wasted it?  Realistically he was a bit of a journeyman player who had a great spell with us and then went off and earned a couple of million at Nottingham Forest meaning he probably doesn't need to work again for a while.
    BUT he's opinionated and pretty erudite so I fully expect him to be on Talksport in the future winding people up and generating calls and income for them.
    If all he wanted from football was money, then you'd have to say he didn't waste his career.

    I'm sure some footballers want a little bit more than that. Like to be remembered with at least an ounce of fondness.
    I think that's a more philosophical question though ? it's about ability though IMO, If iwas a league 1 player i would constantly be looking for the best deal as the fans wont pay my kids needs 10 years after i retire. However if i was premier league player i can afford the luxury of being revered.
    Being remembered with an ounce of fondness is a luxury...? Can't agree with that. We've had plenty of players move on to better pastures who would be welcomed back on Charlton TV for instance. All you have to do is not be a snake. 
    100% its a luxury, if he did break his leg in the matches after Covid and never played again were you going to feed his kids ? I doubt it. I understand why he did what he did but that doesn't mean I like. Lyle Taylor (just like Chris Solly, yet he seems to get a pass. I know he wasnt playing but its still the same principle) did what was right for Lyle Taylor and if i was in his position and I played for a team (or worked for a company) I didnt care about id do the same and so would 99% of people here for a life changing move, id also understand why fans (or people who worked for that business who think i left them in the lurch)  would dislike me but id have to take it on the chin.
    I honestly really, really struggle to understand any Charlton fan who can empathise with Lyle Taylor's actions. It's one thing to know that money has sucked the soul out of the game and it's another support the worst parts of those changes. When your star player can refuse to play in your relegation battle because he's worried he might break a leg before his next big increase? People start supporting that type of behaviour and saying it's OK, and I have to wonder how much worse football can get...

    Whos supporting ? read what i actually wrote not what you wish i wrote. I specifically state that I dont support just that i can understand it in the circumstances.
     In the circumstances ? :D:D:D
    So you can understand somebody breaking his contract which of course he was very happy to sign ? You can understand somebody breaking his contract while the club paid his salary for months after he came back injured when he disappeared to play an international game for some tin pot country? You can understand somebody still claiming his salary while going on strike ?

    I'm glad I don't have your understanding.
    That's because you clearly can not understand the word understand.

    Its like arguing with a brick wall.
  • edited April 26
    Chunes said:
    I honestly really, really struggle to understand any Charlton fan who can empathise with Lyle Taylor's actions. It's one thing to know that money has sucked the soul out of the game and it's another support the worst parts of those changes. When your star player can refuse to play in your relegation battle because he's worried he might break a leg before his next big increase? People start supporting that type of behaviour and saying it's OK, and I have to wonder how much worse football can get...

    Whos supporting ? read what i actually wrote not what you wish i wrote. I specifically state that I dont support just that i can understand it in the circumstances.
    I assume you'd understand if nurses and doctors refused to work in the pandemic then?  

    It makes me wanna weep when I think of the risks those people took on our behalf.  Perhaps soldiers should duck out of troubled areas or firemen stop attending fires?   I mean, these are dangerous tasks with a real risk of injury or worse.  I assume they do it out of a sense of duty, honour and commitment to their public, their team members and to themselves.   

    Lyle Taylor was asked to play a couple of games of football ffs - as he was contracted to do - as he was more than handsomely rewarded to do.  The chances of serious injury? Negligible.  

    Lyle Taylor may have a smart line in old chat, but thankfully he doesn't fool too many people.


    What an utterly bizarre view of things you have ? We are talking about a footballer who refused to play because the season have extended beyond its normal course. Ok i'll play along in this fantasy, yes i would understand if they refused to do their job, who wouldnt you just named all the threats they face ? thankfully nurses, doctors and fire brigade rarely refuse to work.

    He hasnt fooled me either ive just applied my own thoughts and can understand why he did it however I dont agree with them.

    Before i head out on a run are there any more hypothetical scenarios you would like to compare how about knights slaying dragons ? Avengers fighting Thanos ? Santa refusing to work ?  
    Dear oh dear, while out on your run (should you be running ? be careful you don't injure yourself) just engage your brain, he was contracted to play football until 30th June. This he refused to do, he went on strike, he's a piece of shit but you understand why.
    It's fine, being injured will not effect my ability to work or take on new contracts, thanks for your concern though dear. Its cute you thought you had a point but your just regurgitating the stuff I've already said, I've already said i disagree with his actions but i have said i understand why Taylor did what was right for Taylor as none of us were going to pay his mortgage the next season if he was injured.

    Yes he went on strike to a certain degree, which almost everyone (not just footballers) have the right to do. Lastly just to make it clear (though im sure you will ignore this and descend in to personal jibes) I dont agree with Taylors decision it was wrong but I understand (as did Bowyer btw if you read his interviews at the time) why he made it.
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  • TelMc32 said:
    Swisdom said:
    se9addick said:
    He’s going to wake up one day and realise he’s wasted his career. He’s the opposite of Bonne in many ways. I’m astonished Bonne has made a career as a professional footballer despite having no real talent or attributes. Taylor has wasted the talent and attributes he has and not achieved nearly as much as he could of. 
    Has he wasted it?  Realistically he was a bit of a journeyman player who had a great spell with us and then went off and earned a couple of million at Nottingham Forest meaning he probably doesn't need to work again for a while.
    BUT he's opinionated and pretty erudite so I fully expect him to be on Talksport in the future winding people up and generating calls and income for them.
    Agree with this. Honestly can’t see him doing his coaching badges after he finishes and will be happy picking up a few pay cheques for spouting off on whatever platform will have him. I won’t be listening. 
    Will he be a big enough name for talksport and the like to have him on? I wouldn’t have thought he was, and hope that is the case
  • Cant see him sticking around in Football once he retires... I remember interviews on YouTube with various channels, whilst he was with us... and he was saying then that he doesnt particularly like Football, and doesnt get the tribalism that you see with Football fans.

    He's just a bloke who is fairly good at something, and has made a career from it. I'm quite good at Microsoft Excel - Doesnt mean to say I watch the Excel Championships on YouTube - Yes they are a thing, not sure how I know that.

    TalkSport, if they'll have him is a good shout for a career path, or that sort of 
  • I think Lyle will honestly regret all this in the end. I've known a few people like Lyle and for all they court attention through controversy and claim they don't care, in the end they want to be loved, they want to have their own little following and they do get upset about the sheer number of people who can't stand them.

    It's all adding up a bit for Lyle now; he was really loved at Charlton until he refused to play and became hated. That was alright for him though because he was moving up in the world and what's a little scorched earth if it's behind you? But then the Forest move didn't really work out; he struggled to get in to the team, scored 4 goals and none of them after November. He'd joined a team that missed out of the Play-Offs on goal difference the season before, was supposed to score the goals to get them over the line and finished 17th. He wasn't wanted the next season, drifted in and out of the team before being loaned out to Birmingham. Forest finished 4th and got promoted to the Premier League without him. His one full season at Forest he contributed to them being closer to relegation than promotion and once they stopped figuring him into their plans they went up. That'll hurt. But he still had his money and was technically a Premier League player. He sat on the bench for two Premier League games and then didn't figure again for the entire season. Not one appearance even in the cups, a whole year of his career gone with Forest fans talking about how they couldn't wait to get rid of him and what a bad signing he was. He was released after that as a 33 year old who hadn't played in a year and wasn't picked up until November when Wycombe took a punt until January. Zero goals, zero assists, zero affection, the fans were happy when he left. But in came Cambridge in January. He could keep them up and become a hero to those fans at least. Except after an ok start he fell away, got his traditional weird needless red card, gave away a penalty and became despised by those fans too. 

    That's why he's snapped now; he still gets grief from Charlton fans for his conduct then, he's laughed at by Forest fans as a joke player, Wycombe fans wonder if he's actually a footballer and now even Cambridge fans are dishing it out while he's still there. He's used to being hated by everyone external but at least popular within his own sphere but now he can't even find love in the places he's at, the toxicity builds up while he's still there instead of after he's moved on. His career's winding down and he'll be looking at retirement or a L2 move at best and while he'll definitely be happy to count his money I think he'll regret that pretty much every set of football fans have turned their back on him and there's nowhere he can go and hear his name sung. 
    Fuckin' 'ell. Cormac McCarthy - The Striker
  • Relegated Conference side Dorking eyeing up Lyle Taylor for a promotion push next season.
    Taylor thought to be keen on move  in what would be seen as a dream move ( again ).
  • But don't forget, in the saga of Lyle's great Fall, that he has his one trusty buddy who's always there for him: Lee Bowyer (and the Montserrat international side). If that goes away it really will be curtains. Final chapter of the book, Soufriere Hills blows again, Lyle gazing up at the column of smoke and ash, almost a smile on his face
  • edited April 25
    When your career is a memory, it is nice to look back and know that fans from clubs you have played for will always respect you and welcome you and not think badly of you. Nobody would have begrudged him going to Forest had he finished the season and he would have been respected and admired forever as a great Charlton player. Now I can appreciate he is looking at these career decisions coldly and 'logically' but then you shouldn't get upset when fans give it to you a bit, surely.

    I also note that Taylor was happy to play for his country, Monsterrat, and got injured doing so. I appreciate it is an honour to play for your country even though, if he was good enough, his country would have been England I suspect, but this was third rate football on crap pitches. And we lost him for a crucial period. 

    I doubt Lyle is the type to admit having regrets, but he should have them and deep down, he may even have them. Letting people down is not something you are usually proud of.
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  • Leuth said:
    But don't forget, in the saga of Lyle's great Fall, that he has his one trusty buddy who's always there for him: Lee Bowyer (and the Montserrat international side). If that goes away it really will be curtains. Final chapter of the book, Soufriere Hills blows again, Lyle gazing up at the column of smoke and ash, almost a smile on his face
    'On this road there are no godspoke men. They are gone and I am left and they have taken with them the world'
  • Relegated Conference side Dorking eyeing up Lyle Taylor for a promotion push next season.
    Taylor thought to be keen on move  in what would be seen as a dream move ( again ).
    Marc White v Lyle "The Snake" Taylor....

    I'd pay good money to be in THAT dressing room ! 

    Thoughts @JiMMy 85 ?
  • Carter said:
    Depends, Roger Johnson told one of my mates to fuck off a while ago at Bury away and 99 times out of 100 he would have done something to deserve the reprimand. Not that time 

    I make @RodneyCharltonTrotta right to a point and love a witty response from someone getting shit from fans, but in this case Taylor can take his fucking medicine 
    Thierry Henry told me to Fuck Off in the prem days. I sat in front row of East stand and was giving him stick all game. 

    I thought it was great that he was giving it back. 
    The best are those who give it back, the worst are the ones who go whinging to the referee about it

    One of my friends came to a rare game once, and gave Paul Robinson some stick at the Valley after he'd fucked up playing for England - Robinson heard him, and came out with some retort, my mate just applauded him for it in response.
  • edited April 25
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Swisdom said:
    se9addick said:
    He’s going to wake up one day and realise he’s wasted his career. He’s the opposite of Bonne in many ways. I’m astonished Bonne has made a career as a professional footballer despite having no real talent or attributes. Taylor has wasted the talent and attributes he has and not achieved nearly as much as he could of. 
    Has he wasted it?  Realistically he was a bit of a journeyman player who had a great spell with us and then went off and earned a couple of million at Nottingham Forest meaning he probably doesn't need to work again for a while.
    BUT he's opinionated and pretty erudite so I fully expect him to be on Talksport in the future winding people up and generating calls and income for them.
    If all he wanted from football was money, then you'd have to say he didn't waste his career.

    I'm sure some footballers want a little bit more than that. Like to be remembered with at least an ounce of fondness.
    I think that's a more philosophical question though ? it's about ability though IMO, If iwas a league 1 player i would constantly be looking for the best deal as the fans wont pay my kids needs 10 years after i retire. However if i was premier league player i can afford the luxury of being revered.
    Being remembered with an ounce of fondness is a luxury...? Can't agree with that. We've had plenty of players move on to better pastures who would be welcomed back on Charlton TV for instance. All you have to do is not be a snake. 
    100% its a luxury, if he did break his leg in the matches after Covid and never played again were you going to feed his kids ? I doubt it. I understand why he did what he did but that doesn't mean I like. Lyle Taylor (just like Chris Solly, yet he seems to get a pass. I know he wasnt playing but its still the same principle) did what was right for Lyle Taylor and if i was in his position and I played for a team (or worked for a company) I didnt care about id do the same and so would 99% of people here for a life changing move, id also understand why fans (or people who worked for that business who think i left them in the lurch)  would dislike me but id have to take it on the chin.
    I honestly really, really struggle to understand any Charlton fan who can empathise with Lyle Taylor's actions. It's one thing to know that money has sucked the soul out of the game and it's another support the worst parts of those changes. When your star player can refuse to play in your relegation battle because he's worried he might break a leg before his next big increase? People start supporting that type of behaviour and saying it's OK, and I have to wonder how much worse football can get...

    Whos supporting ? read what i actually wrote not what you wish i wrote. I specifically state that I dont support just that i can understand it in the circumstances.
    I assume you'd understand if nurses and doctors refused to work in the pandemic then?  

    It makes me wanna weep when I think of the risks those people took on our behalf.  Perhaps soldiers should duck out of troubled areas or firemen stop attending fires?   I mean, these are dangerous tasks with a real risk of injury or worse.  I assume they do it out of a sense of duty, honour and commitment to their public, their team members and to themselves.   

    Lyle Taylor was asked to play a couple of games of football ffs - as he was contracted to do - as he was more than handsomely rewarded to do.  The chances of serious injury? Negligible.  

    Lyle Taylor may have a smart line in old chat, but thankfully he doesn't fool too many people.


    What an utterly bizarre view of things you have ? We are talking about a footballer who refused to play because the season have extended beyond its normal course. Ok i'll play along in this fantasy, yes i would understand if they refused to do their job, who wouldnt you just named all the threats they face ? thankfully nurses, doctors and fire brigade rarely refuse to work.

    He hasnt fooled me either ive just applied my own thoughts and can understand why he did it however I dont agree with them.

    Before i head out on a run are there any more hypothetical scenarios you would like to compare how about knights slaying dragons ? Avengers fighting Thanos ? Santa refusing to work ?  
    No, people are angry about him refusing to play WHILST STILL UNDER CONTRACT. 

    The idea 99% of us would do the same is highly insulting, I’ve seen out contracts whilst waiting to join a new company on more money, knowing I could just quit and give a months notice. 
    What is it you people do not understand ? Ive literally said i know and accept why people are angry.

    Why are you shouting ? We all understand he was under contract. You're not saying anything new or ground breaking we all understand he was under contract.

    So in the last week of your contract, your current company ask you to do something which you are under contract to do but could jeopardize your move next week to a company that will pay you a life changing amount you would say ok mate ?. If you choose to be insulted pal thats on you.
  • Chunes said:
    @KingKinsella How do you like your pie served...
    Have to take it as it comes.......
  • He’ll end up hanging around Farage post football is my bet 

  • Could see him going back to AFC Wombles or moving on to Gillingham next season.
  • That'll learn him.
  • I think Lyle will honestly regret all this in the end. I've known a few people like Lyle and for all they court attention through controversy and claim they don't care, in the end they want to be loved, they want to have their own little following and they do get upset about the sheer number of people who can't stand them.

    It's all adding up a bit for Lyle now; he was really loved at Charlton until he refused to play and became hated. That was alright for him though because he was moving up in the world and what's a little scorched earth if it's behind you? But then the Forest move didn't really work out; he struggled to get in to the team, scored 4 goals and none of them after November. He'd joined a team that missed out of the Play-Offs on goal difference the season before, was supposed to score the goals to get them over the line and finished 17th. He wasn't wanted the next season, drifted in and out of the team before being loaned out to Birmingham. Forest finished 4th and got promoted to the Premier League without him. His one full season at Forest he contributed to them being closer to relegation than promotion and once they stopped figuring him into their plans they went up. That'll hurt. But he still had his money and was technically a Premier League player. He sat on the bench for two Premier League games and then didn't figure again for the entire season. Not one appearance even in the cups, a whole year of his career gone with Forest fans talking about how they couldn't wait to get rid of him and what a bad signing he was. He was released after that as a 33 year old who hadn't played in a year and wasn't picked up until November when Wycombe took a punt until January. Zero goals, zero assists, zero affection, the fans were happy when he left. But in came Cambridge in January. He could keep them up and become a hero to those fans at least. Except after an ok start he fell away, got his traditional weird needless red card, gave away a penalty and became despised by those fans too. 

    That's why he's snapped now; he still gets grief from Charlton fans for his conduct then, he's laughed at by Forest fans as a joke player, Wycombe fans wonder if he's actually a footballer and now even Cambridge fans are dishing it out while he's still there. He's used to being hated by everyone external but at least popular within his own sphere but now he can't even find love in the places he's at, the toxicity builds up while he's still there instead of after he's moved on. His career's winding down and he'll be looking at retirement or a L2 move at best and while he'll definitely be happy to count his money I think he'll regret that pretty much every set of football fans have turned their back on him and there's nowhere he can go and hear his name sung. 
    Wouldn't disagree with much of this re personality. That's what a lot of our fans focus on, my point has always been about his abilities/qualities as a striker, especially when we bought Lapado. Neither has been a  success, LT scoring 3 makes him slightly better imo. Also there's still a game to go, although Monk will be very brave to play him with the level of hostility in the crowd.




  • Reportedly on around 6k to around 20k will turn heads as a life changing move.  I bet he got also received a significant rise for the Forest promotion to the Premier League.
    All old ground but I'm with @Radostanradical, what he did was wrong but I understand why he did it.
    Yes
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