The only aspect that I am upset about is that Lyle missed 15 weeks while injured on International duty.
We all know that if he hadn't have missed these games, our league position would be quite healthy at the moment. Accepting a 2 year boosted contract and leave once achieved current goal with current goal almost sounds a bit tooo romantic for the modern era.
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
The two key priorities for ESI in this new dawn for Charlton Athletic were to secure our star striker and talisman Lyle Taylor and the services of Lee Bowyer.
Both were instrumental in the unlikely rescue of the club from disaster and the unforgettable Wembley play off victory. Both make the club tick.
So far they have failed to achieve either.
Some people have very short memories. Losing Lyle is just the same as losing Yann. Losing LB will be just like losing CP. And we know what happened then.
It's early days i know but I already have deja vu. This feels like Roland 2.
Give it a rest, this is still issues caused by Roland's reign.
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
They don't need him, promotion is there for Leeds to lose, if they carry on as they are they are a Prem team next season and Taylor is not a Premiership Forward.
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
They don't need him, promotion is there for Leeds to lose, if they carry on as they are they are a Prem team next season and Taylor is not a Premiership Forward.
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
They don't need him, promotion is there for Leeds to lose, if they carry on as they are they are a Prem team next season and Taylor is not a Premiership Forward.
Did you watch Leeds implode last season???
They become tired
I did, and as I said in my reply, promotion is theirs to lose. I still don't think they need to spend £3m on Taylor to get the job done though.
I just can't see what we're going to get with the what, 1.5m (max, probably nearer 1m if that) we'd ever get for Lyle when he's out of contract in the summer that would be better than having him til the end of the year to help keep us up so we can have a rebuild, starting from the Championship.
If West Brom really want him though and give him a chance of Prem football next year and he pushes to go then I guess we have no choice, but I still think it's worth holding on even if he has no interest in re-signing.
I just can't see what we're going to get with the what, 1.5m (max, probably nearer 1m if that) we'd ever get for Lyle when he's out of contract in the summer that would be better than having him til the end of the year to help keep us up so we can have a rebuild, starting from the Championship.
If West Brom really want him though and give him a chance of Prem football next year and he pushes to go then I guess we have no choice, but I still think it's worth holding on even if he has no interest in re-signing.
Which is why he's not been transfer listed, I assume.
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
£16k per week £832k x 3years is around £2.5m
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
£16k per week £832k x 3years is around £2.5m
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
he's worth more than that to us and to himself
he was also offered a loyalty bonus plus a signing on fee
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
£16k per week £832k x 3years is around £2.5m
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
he's worth more than that to us and to himself
he was also offered a loyalty bonus plus a signing on fee
so many different versions of what he has and hasn't been offered but prague or blackpool have you heard any signing on numbers
However, there is a danger it will cost us more to replace him than to give him what he's after. Coupled with the fact we need a striker to keep us up and there is no guarantee the new guy/s will do any better.
However, there is a danger it will cost us more to replace him than to give him what he's after. Coupled with the fact we need a striker to keep us up and there is no guarantee the new guy/s will do any better.
this is the key - with Lyle we know him and know he'll do a job for us, I'll be gutted if/when he goes.
I fear it won't end well for him and he'll become another Ricky Holmes, I hope not.
I hear what everyone says, but can't help but be disappointed in both him and the club. We suffered on the field in letting Yann go and can't help feeling this will end the same way.
Sounds like an on-going negotiation to me, nothing more. Like the Bowyer situation. Trying to avoid the B word but you rarely get anything you want in a big negotiation without (a) getting emotional and (b) walking away at least once.
Or, it's just that Lyle thinks he can not only get more money but a bigger opportunity, then it won't matter what we offer.
It's totally fair enough for him to put himself out in the market and see what he's worth. I trust Bowyer, Gallen and the new owners to do the right thing, whether that's stump up more money or bring someone else in, albeit he is going to be very difficult to replace.
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
£16k per week £832k x 3years is around £2.5m
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
he's worth more than that to us and to himself
he was also offered a loyalty bonus plus a signing on fee
so many different versions of what he has and hasn't been offered but prague or blackpool have you heard any signing on numbers
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
16k a week isn't really a 'shit' offer, but it might be considered shit if the guy can get 20k a week plus a 1m signing on fee from another club in the summer.
Sounds like an on-going negotiation to me, nothing more. Like the Bowyer situation. Trying to avoid the B word but you rarely get anything you want in a big negotiation without (a) getting emotional and (b) walking away at least once.
Or, it's just that Lyle thinks he can not only get more money but a bigger opportunity, then it won't matter what we offer.
It's totally fair enough for him to put himself out in the market and see what he's worth. I trust Bowyer, Gallen and the new owners to do the right thing, whether that's stump up more money or bring someone else in, albeit he is going to be very difficult to replace.
There's a third option which is to let Lyle see out his contract. Ok, he can leave at the end of June for no fee, but assuming he's on £7k per week now it just costs us around £180k in wages. There's always a chance we can change his mind as well and I would not expect him to down tools either.
What makes me sad is knowing how valuable he is to us but you have clubs fans like Leeds, WBA, Rangers, Brentford etc saying he isn't good enough. Hope he has a good look at stuff like that before making a decision.
Then again if he searches his name he will also see the fans of the current club that employs him giving him pelters ffs
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
Leeds desperately need another striker, with Nketiah going back to Arsenal. Taylor would fit in their system quite well
Sounds like an on-going negotiation to me, nothing more. Like the Bowyer situation. Trying to avoid the B word but you rarely get anything you want in a big negotiation without (a) getting emotional and (b) walking away at least once.
Or, it's just that Lyle thinks he can not only get more money but a bigger opportunity, then it won't matter what we offer.
It's totally fair enough for him to put himself out in the market and see what he's worth. I trust Bowyer, Gallen and the new owners to do the right thing, whether that's stump up more money or bring someone else in, albeit he is going to be very difficult to replace.
There's a third option which is to let Lyle see out his contract. Ok, he can leave at the end of June for no fee, but assuming he's on £7k per week now it just costs us around £180k in wages. There's always a chance we can change his mind as well and I would not expect him to down tools either.
Sadly, I get the feeling that Lyle HAS 'downed tools' with Charlton - certainly mentally and probably, therefore, also physically and with diminished commitment. I said many months ago when he was on the verge of signing for Brentford that he is (IMHO) the single most important player to play for us for many years. HOWEVER, a bit like having the perfect girlfriend, is 'she' does not want to continue the relationship you really do have to accept it and move on. Gutted to lose him though.
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
Leeds desperately need another striker, with Nketiah going back to Arsenal. Taylor would fit in their system quite well
If clubs pushing for promotion want him, quote them £10m. Test how much they are willing to pay to get to the premiership
Swansea, Sheffield Wednesday, West Brom and Rangers
Parachute payments and likely to lose Ayew. Would need another striker Dodgy FFP compliance - a points deduction would destroy any chance of promotion, not sure why they need Lyle anyway Parachute payments, again not sure why they would need Lyle seeing that Charlie Austin is on the bench Mickey Mouse league but European football
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
£16k per week £832k x 3years is around £2.5m
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
he's worth more than that to us and to himself
he was also offered a loyalty bonus plus a signing on fee
so many different versions of what he has and hasn't been offered but prague or blackpool have you heard any signing on numbers
No mate. If I hear anything I'll post on here.
Same for me. Signing on fee not mentioned. I would have thought it would have been mentioned.
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We all know that if he hadn't have missed these games, our league position would be quite healthy at the moment. Accepting a 2 year boosted contract and leave once achieved current goal with current goal almost sounds a bit tooo romantic for the modern era.
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
I am surprised Leeds don't go for him, Bamford is a bit inconsistent and I think an in form Taylor secures them promotion, he would suit their system and style
They become tired
If West Brom really want him though and give him a chance of Prem football next year and he pushes to go then I guess we have no choice, but I still think it's worth holding on even if he has no interest in re-signing.
Either we will sell him and recoup a fee or keep him as an asset to help us stay up before he leaves in the summer.
Either way, we move on.
I have faith in LB, SG and ESI to do the right thing for the club. Onwards and upwards!
where we gonna get a striker as good as him all in wages and purchase price for that .
he's worth more than that to us and to himself
However, there is a danger it will cost us more to replace him than to give him what he's after. Coupled with the fact we need a striker to keep us up and there is no guarantee the new guy/s will do any better.
I fear it won't end well for him and he'll become another Ricky Holmes, I hope not.
Or, it's just that Lyle thinks he can not only get more money but a bigger opportunity, then it won't matter what we offer.
It's totally fair enough for him to put himself out in the market and see what he's worth. I trust Bowyer, Gallen and the new owners to do the right thing, whether that's stump up more money or bring someone else in, albeit he is going to be very difficult to replace.
If I hear anything I'll post on here.
Then again if he searches his name he will also see the fans of the current club that employs him giving him pelters ffs
Parachute payments and likely to lose Ayew. Would need another striker
Dodgy FFP compliance - a points deduction would destroy any chance of promotion, not sure why they need Lyle anyway
Parachute payments, again not sure why they would need Lyle seeing that Charlie Austin is on the bench
Mickey Mouse league but European football