Nothing like a last minute winner....unless you also have had a fiver at 8/1 on 2-1!! Yippppeeeee! Thought young Lapslie was superb today and Morgan came on and bossed the game, taking free kicks and corners like he owned the place.
Just curious. Saop saying pre game that Charlton forum's spent the whole summer being bitter about the play off defeat. Where exactly? Not gonna deny there has been some bitterness on all the fórums over the summer, but I must have missed the bit about Shrewbury. Anyone checked SE7 Valiants?
I never look at other forums, but this one was full of fish puns, condemnation of Corbynite anti-semitism, trying to work out just how bad Brexit is gonna be, Ibizan allegations, the significance of the number 1,000 and of course the small matter of when the duck tape despot is going to leave us so that we can start rebuilding the club. If anyone genuinely thinks the members of this site give a tinkers cuss about Shrewsbury Town, I'd suggest that they had a little too much of the cooking sherry.
Really liked Morgan and thought Lapslie played with great heart. Sarr used the ball well and Pratley is better than Kashi. He plays it simple but puts his foot in and tgecassist for Grant’s goal was class. I think Grant is a confidence player and it will be interesting to see if Bowyer will be the manager to unlock his talent. Considering the chaos around Charlton Bowyer and Jackson are doing a great job. Nice to get revenge on the for dumping us in the play offs too.
lapslie man of the match, aribo immense, morgan how composed was he brilliant, so pleased for grant, taylor looks to be a proper striker and pratley very good. Great start at the valley and bowyers management of the game was very good. Early days but encouraging nevertheless. well done everyone totally enjoyable
Difficult to summarise ..total shocking game for an hour. ..got ahead with great play, did the usual charlton, waste loads if chances, gift them a goal but to be fair to us, we said this isn't right and deserved a win.
Give Bowyer some credit. He changed the formation at half time. Put Solly as a left defender, Page forward, Lapslie right back/ right winger. At least he tries new formations when things not working out.
Pleased. Roland’s spent the last 4 years dismantling this club and has reduced it to relying on youth. Today the youth and Bowyer had a nice big f*** you for him
Flat 1st half but pleased with the fight and spirit in the 2nd
Pleased. Roland’s spent the last 4 years dismantling this club and has reduced it to relying on youth. Today the youth and Bowyer had a nice big f*** you for him
Flat 1st half but pleased with the fight and spirit in the 2nd
We probably didn't deserve to win today, but then we didn't deserve to lose last week
I've been pleased with our attacking play in both games, Taylor looks like the best centre forward we've had in years, while KAG had been transformed by that loan spell last season, so I was delighted for his confidence that he got the winner.
Lapslie had an excellent game, he gave EVERYTHING today, Morgan looked an excellent prospect while Pratley, in this division, looks a much more effective player than Kashi, and had an excellent assist.
Slightly puzzled by the second half formation, with the right footed Solly playing the left CB role and the left footed Sarr the right CB role. From my recollection the goal came after Sarr chased an attacked out of the box, didn't win the ball so that when the cross came in to the far post, our tallest defender was 20 yards away. If it had been Solly on the right chasing the ball, and Sarr on the left staying back, we might have defended it better?
Slightly concerned by Page, both as he was fairly ineffective in his second half role, but more that for the second game running he seemed to be getting cramp.
Well I am delighted to get the three points in a game that could easily have gone either way (or been a draw) between two teams that were average to iffy at best.
Were we a solid unit? No. A well oiled machine? No. Flying by the seat of our pants? Yes.
There are however a lot of observations to be made after that game.
Firstly anybody who thinks it doesn't matter if we don't kick the 'right' way, you're wrong.
Secondly we finished the game with only Pratley, Page, Sarr and Bauer who had not come through the ranks one way or another. Got to be some kind of modern day record that.
Seven 'graduates' finished that match which was lovely and refreshing. I wish I had been able to speak to U23/U18 stalwart watchers like @Paddy7 or @bolloxbolder, because we often watched the reserves/youth together, always progressive and successful playing nice football, and we would wonder if they would be better than the various unconvincing first teams we had often put out. Well today was a pretty solid chance to teat that theory, because in many ways that side could have been the same as the lads we would often see playing at grey Greenwich Borough on quiet Monday afternoons. For seasoned watchers of the players coming through at Charlton, that game today was compelling. I was rooting to my boots for every player that we could call 'one of our own', and I make no apologies for that kind of bias.
As for the game, well it certainly lived up to the cliche of a game of two halves. Sarr had hit the post in the first half, sometimes Shrewsbury threatened with ease, Marshall saved us towards the end of the half (eclipsed by a similar brilliant intervention from Solly in the second half) but it was an open game that better players in better teams would have run riot in.
The irony of the players bedding in with each other in the first half was that progression was immediately ignored in the second half. Lapslie to right back ish, Solly to left with Page pushed forward. Debutante Albie Morgan on for Marshall, when he straight away looked like he had been playing in the team for years. I think I am right in saying that Morgan in Academy terms is TWO years behind Lapslie, and Lapslie himself as a pro footballer is barely out of nappies and potty trained.
We also saw Taylor more withdrawn with Grant as the point of focus for a lot of our attacking play. With nobody playing as any kind of out and out winger, through balls, and forceful recovery when out of possession were our biggest strengths. However it was all rather improvisational, entertaining as a result, and a more coherent and cynical opposition would have beaten us. They had chances which were saved or spurned, Shrewsbury did all they could in terms of substitutes and that undid us very often, but there was an innocent honesty in our resistance which led to victory.
Our goals were great. I said on the pre-match I hoped George Lapslie played well, when after a nice made by Avory/Euell/Baltacha young band of brothers grouping of Aribo, Morgan and Lapslie set up Lapslie for a lovely far post cross, and to my mind Taylor squeezed it in with a good header which had the stamp of experience on it.
We are going to need a lot of our experience back despite the excitement of youth. We were crying out for the leadership of Pearce at the back which might have stopped the Shrewsbury equaliser that was swift, deadly and carried an air of inevitability with it.
However we went on to win it in the 90th minute. Full credit to Pratley for his part in that, but the Grant header was almost in defiance of the laws of Physics. I don't think I have ever seen a header scored by a player so close in, so close to the post, with such a narrow angle. Amazing, surprising and uplifting.
As for the individual players. Well in the extremely fluid nature of the afternoon they all did well. Consistently well for the whole game? I would give that accolade to Lapslie (I did say I was biased), he had to play two distinct roles, crossed for the opener, gave 100% (cramped up at the end), and was a great credit to himself and everybody associated with him.
However.
My man of the match is Albie debutant Morgan. He came on for Marshall who was under par and out of position in the first half, and then Morgan seemed to run the game for us in the second half. He made one minor error, but his play very often reminded me of (yes I know) Danny Murphy. To play like that, in those circumstances today gets him my personal vote.
I pray that Albie is encouraged and not exploited from here on in, but anybody who saw him today, and knows football, will know that he might have a big future.
A word of praise for Brian Cole who's controlled yet very emotional tribute to young Jack at the start of the game was extremely well done.
Saw the result just as I boarded the plane from Madrid, was probably very close to being branded a flight risk. Good to hear about Morgan and, obviously, to score an injury time winner.
Dont agree that it was Taylor's fault / backing into their Centre-Backs all day... Mount of time their players had their arms round him or pulling on his shirt was ridiculous
He added: "Decision-wise, there was a lot of decisions that went against us – it stops your momentum at times, and that was difficult to deal with as well.
"It's a bit frustrating when their centre forward is backing into our centre-half all day and keeps getting the fouls. It had an effect on the game at times. Overall, I was pleased with the performance
I disagree but even if that was the case its a nice taste of their own medicine
Dont agree that it was Taylor's fault / backing into their Centre-Backs all day... Mount of time their players had their arms round him or pulling on his shirt was ridiculous
Complete nonsense, at was a great physical battle between the two, and often their CB resorted to grappling to stop Taylor getting away
Plus I know he wasnt their Manager yet it's frustrating when their Strikers got away with elbows etc. and not get sent off in games...
As I said at the time, they're lucky their goal happened, yes we should have dealt with the initial moment (which is what I'll always bemoan) in the sense that we should have handled the free kick better that Pratley conceded, yet they only got the foul because Lapslie could only deal with clearing the ball by committing a diving header.. he wouldnt have had to have done that had his shirt not been being pulled so much
Comments from Martyn Ounstead “Well I didn’t go today and I’ve never been before so not sure why you’re asking me but yay, we won. Now can you get someone to tell me if the chips per portion has increased please as I need to pee...”
Just curious. Saop saying pre game that Charlton forum's spent the whole summer being bitter about the play off defeat. Where exactly? Not gonna deny there has been some bitterness on all the fórums over the summer, but I must have missed the bit about Shrewbury. Anyone checked SE7 Valiants?
No idea about other forums but this one spent about 3 weeks of the summer thinking football was coming home and the other 6-7 weeks religiously checking the takeover thread.
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Thought young Lapslie was superb today and Morgan came on and bossed the game, taking free kicks and corners like he owned the place.
Flat 1st half but pleased with the fight and spirit in the 2nd
We deserved that.
I've been pleased with our attacking play in both games, Taylor looks like the best centre forward we've had in years, while K
AG had been transformed by that loan spell last season, so I was delighted for his confidence that he got the winner.Lapslie had an excellent game, he gave EVERYTHING today, Morgan looked an excellent prospect while Pratley, in this division, looks a much more effective player than Kashi, and had an excellent assist.
Slightly puzzled by the second half formation, with the right footed Solly playing the left CB role and the left footed Sarr the right CB role. From my recollection the goal came after Sarr chased an attacked out of the box, didn't win the ball so that when the cross came in to the far post, our tallest defender was 20 yards away. If it had been Solly on the right chasing the ball, and Sarr on the left staying back, we might have defended it better?
Slightly concerned by Page, both as he was fairly ineffective in his second half role, but more that for the second game running he seemed to be getting cramp.
Well I am delighted to get the three points in a game that could easily have gone either way (or been a draw) between two teams that were average to iffy at best.
Were we a solid unit? No.
A well oiled machine? No.
Flying by the seat of our pants? Yes.
There are however a lot of observations to be made after that game.
Firstly anybody who thinks it doesn't matter if we don't kick the 'right' way, you're wrong.
Secondly we finished the game with only Pratley, Page, Sarr and Bauer who had not come through the ranks one way or another. Got to be some kind of modern day record that.
Seven 'graduates' finished that match which was lovely and refreshing. I wish I had been able to speak to U23/U18 stalwart watchers like @Paddy7 or @bolloxbolder, because we often watched the reserves/youth together, always progressive and successful playing nice football, and we would wonder if they would be better than the various unconvincing first teams we had often put out. Well today was a pretty solid chance to teat that theory, because in many ways that side could have been the same as the lads we would often see playing at grey Greenwich Borough on quiet Monday afternoons. For seasoned watchers of the players coming through at Charlton, that game today was compelling. I was rooting to my boots for every player that we could call 'one of our own', and I make no apologies for that kind of bias.
As for the game, well it certainly lived up to the cliche of a game of two halves. Sarr had hit the post in the first half, sometimes Shrewsbury threatened with ease, Marshall saved us towards the end of the half (eclipsed by a similar brilliant intervention from Solly in the second half) but it was an open game that better players in better teams would have run riot in.
The irony of the players bedding in with each other in the first half was that progression was immediately ignored in the second half. Lapslie to right back ish, Solly to left with Page pushed forward. Debutante Albie Morgan on for Marshall, when he straight away looked like he had been playing in the team for years. I think I am right in saying that Morgan in Academy terms is TWO years behind Lapslie, and Lapslie himself as a pro footballer is barely out of nappies and potty trained.
We also saw Taylor more withdrawn with Grant as the point of focus for a lot of our attacking play. With nobody playing as any kind of out and out winger, through balls, and forceful recovery when out of possession were our biggest strengths. However it was all rather improvisational, entertaining as a result, and a more coherent and cynical opposition would have beaten us. They had chances which were saved or spurned, Shrewsbury did all they could in terms of substitutes and that undid us very often, but there was an innocent honesty in our resistance which led to victory.
Our goals were great. I said on the pre-match I hoped George Lapslie played well, when after a nice made by Avory/Euell/Baltacha young band of brothers grouping of Aribo, Morgan and Lapslie set up Lapslie for a lovely far post cross, and to my mind Taylor squeezed it in with a good header which had the stamp of experience on it.
We are going to need a lot of our experience back despite the excitement of youth. We were crying out for the leadership of Pearce at the back which might have stopped the Shrewsbury equaliser that was swift, deadly and carried an air of inevitability with it.
However we went on to win it in the 90th minute. Full credit to Pratley for his part in that, but the Grant header was almost in defiance of the laws of Physics. I don't think I have ever seen a header scored by a player so close in, so close to the post, with such a narrow angle. Amazing, surprising and uplifting.
As for the individual players. Well in the extremely fluid nature of the afternoon they all did well. Consistently well for the whole game? I would give that accolade to Lapslie (I did say I was biased), he had to play two distinct roles, crossed for the opener, gave 100% (cramped up at the end), and was a great credit to himself and everybody associated with him.
However.
My man of the match is Albie debutant Morgan. He came on for Marshall who was under par and out of position in the first half, and then Morgan seemed to run the game for us in the second half. He made one minor error, but his play very often reminded me of (yes I know) Danny Murphy. To play like that, in those circumstances today gets him my personal vote.
I pray that Albie is encouraged and not exploited from here on in, but anybody who saw him today, and knows football, will know that he might have a big future.
A word of praise for Brian Cole who's controlled yet very emotional tribute to young Jack at the start of the game was extremely well done.
https://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2018/08/11/john-askey-pleased-with-shrewsbury-town-performance-despite-result/
Dont agree that it was Taylor's fault / backing into their Centre-Backs all day... Mount of time their players had their arms round him or pulling on his shirt was ridiculous
"It's a bit frustrating when their centre forward is backing into our centre-half all day and keeps getting the fouls. It had an effect on the game at times. Overall, I was pleased with the performance
I disagree but even if that was the case its a nice taste of their own medicine
As I said at the time, they're lucky their goal happened, yes we should have dealt with the initial moment (which is what I'll always bemoan) in the sense that we should have handled the free kick better that Pratley conceded, yet they only got the foul because Lapslie could only deal with clearing the ball by committing a diving header.. he wouldnt have had to have done that had his shirt not been being pulled so much