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Albie Morgan - diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (p63)

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  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    He's not really got all the tools, yet, for Championship football but parasitic frauds like Green, Hemed and McGeady aren't fit to clean his boots.  We'd be better off with AM back in the fold than ever picking any of those 3 scumsucking arseholes again. 
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    StigThundercock said:
    He's not really got all the tools, yet, for Championship football but parasitic frauds like Green, Hemed and McGeady aren't fit to clean his boots.  We'd be better off with AM back in the fold than ever picking any of those 3 scumsucking arseholes again. 

    jesus that's a bit harsh!
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Morgan will be vital if we go back down to League 1
  • Sarrf_London
    Sarrf_London Posts: 523
    Morgan is out of contract and will not sign given the way he has been treated.  More likely to line up against us in L1 than for us.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    Parasitic frauds! Wow!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    StigThundercock said:
    He's not really got all the tools, yet, for Championship football but parasitic frauds like Green, Hemed and McGeady aren't fit to clean his boots.  We'd be better off with AM back in the fold than ever picking any of those 3 scumsucking arseholes again. 
    I'll put you done as a maybe for those 3 then. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,279
    Sarrf_London said:
    Morgan is out of contract and will not sign given the way he has been treated.  More likely to line up against us in L1 than for us.
    He may wish to go try his luck elsewhere but I am not sure he has been mistreated.  

    Fans have always been good to him. 

    Bowyer has given him a go.  Bowyer has given him some advice.  

    He has not pushed on, I don't know why but plenty of lads never even get the chance to show what they can do.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    I dont think he has been treated particularly harshly. On several of the occasions I have seen Morgan play he has been far from impressive. Yes he could do better with more games but I get why Bow doesn't put him in the team
  • Sarrf_London
    Sarrf_London Posts: 523
    edited March 2020
    I'd love to have been in training when Ledley, McGeady and Smith proved themselves more worthy of a place in the 18.  Seem to remember Vennings getting the nod over him in one match (edit two). And not sure Oz has more in his locker.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    I don’t get all this being treated badly stuff! How has he been treated badly?

    he has been available for loan for two transfer windows now but yet only managed a bottom four team in the 5th tier. I think that says it all.

    ive heard he is a bad trainer with an attitude problem, hence my earlier comments on why I don’t think he will make it 
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  • Sarrf_London
    Sarrf_London Posts: 523
    edited March 2020
    Heard from who?  Sure there was a CAFC article about him putting in extra close season workouts. FFS Ledley got a game before his name was on changing room pegs!
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Sarrf_London said:
    Heard from who?  Sure there was a CAFC article about him putting in extra close season workouts. FFS Ledley got a game before his name was on changing room pegs!
    A person who is connected to the game on a professional capacity. He has told me a few things, also non charlton related that were true. I do t post things I hear as people don’t like it, they shoot you down so I don’t bother.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,682
    StigThundercock said:
    He's not really got all the tools, yet, for Championship football but parasitic frauds like Green, Hemed and McGeady aren't fit to clean his boots.  We'd be better off with AM back in the fold than ever picking any of those 3 scumsucking arseholes again. 
    Good morning Stig.
    I trust you had a good night's sleep. 
  • Sir Chrissy
    Sir Chrissy Posts: 609
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I don’t get all this being treated badly stuff! How has he been treated badly?

    he has been available for loan for two transfer windows now but yet only managed a bottom four team in the 5th tier. I think that says it all.

    ive heard he is a bad trainer with an attitude problem, hence my earlier comments on why I don’t think he will make it 

    Also heard same issue with Morgan. Has a belief that his ability is a lot better than what it currently is. In the Summer was told he should go out on loan to a lower league club and initially refused believing he should be starting in the Championship (off the back of a few games last season). This is why he ended up in the National League eventually as he finally succumb to the fact he needed minutes and wasn't going to get in the 1st team (obviously until injuries crucified us).

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Funny these stories come out now and not when he was playing regularly and outshining some of our more senior players.
  • CharltonByBlood
    CharltonByBlood Posts: 1,900
    StigThundercock said:
    He's not really got all the tools, yet, for Championship football but parasitic frauds like Green, Hemed and McGeady aren't fit to clean his boots.  We'd be better off with AM back in the fold than ever picking any of those 3 scumsucking arseholes again. 

    What is the matter with you?
  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    Sir Chrissy said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I don’t get all this being treated badly stuff! How has he been treated badly?

    he has been available for loan for two transfer windows now but yet only managed a bottom four team in the 5th tier. I think that says it all.

    ive heard he is a bad trainer with an attitude problem, hence my earlier comments on why I don’t think he will make it 

    Also heard same issue with Morgan. Has a belief that his ability is a lot better than what it currently is. In the Summer was told he should go out on loan to a lower league club and initially refused believing he should be starting in the Championship (off the back of a few games last season). This is why he ended up in the National League eventually as he finally succumb to the fact he needed minutes and wasn't going to get in the 1st team (obviously until injuries crucified us).

    Hes still a very naturally gifted player and our best chance of unlocking a defence with a through ball at the moment

    So what he dont track back, give him a different roll, we need goals not 3 CDMs in a game trying to battle out a 0-0
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,863
    We bring in 3 midfielders on deadline day, none of which played today. If you’re going to have non playing midfielders on the bench, you might as well use your own players.

    Smith has barely featured at all since he arrived, indeed is he only on the bench because contractually he has to be there?
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Dazzler21 said:
    Funny these stories come out now and not when he was playing regularly and outshining some of our more senior players.
    Which was when?

    he had a few good games last season but also a few bad ones, nothing that isn’t expected of a young pro in his first season. 

    I remember him against Rochdale where he played a great ball for Taylor to score. He was quiet at home in the play offs.

    This year, he hasn’t kicked in or had any stand out moments. 

    he has been available for loan for two windows with no tackers, that’s the worrying bit for me
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Funny these stories come out now and not when he was playing regularly and outshining some of our more senior players.
    Which was when?

    he had a few good games last season but also a few bad ones, nothing that isn’t expected of a young pro in his first season. 

    I remember him against Rochdale where he played a great ball for Taylor to score. He was quiet at home in the play offs.

    This year, he hasn’t kicked in or had any stand out moments. 

    he has been available for loan for two windows with no tackers, that’s the worrying bit for me
    He can pass the ball though, which nobody on show today can, bar Taylor 
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    wmcf123 said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Funny these stories come out now and not when he was playing regularly and outshining some of our more senior players.
    Which was when?

    he had a few good games last season but also a few bad ones, nothing that isn’t expected of a young pro in his first season. 

    I remember him against Rochdale where he played a great ball for Taylor to score. He was quiet at home in the play offs.

    This year, he hasn’t kicked in or had any stand out moments. 

    he has been available for loan for two windows with no tackers, that’s the worrying bit for me
    He can pass the ball though, which nobody on show today can, bar Taylor 
    That’s wrong and unfair, purrington played a brilliant through ball for the goal today.....oh yeah, I get your point
  • nelsonsleftfoot
    nelsonsleftfoot Posts: 308
    Improved greatly. There is real purpose in everything he does. Works extremely hard, no longer lightweight and his endeavour to get in to the area and in to more dangerous positions is notable. I was critical of Bowyer's handling of Albie. It was, in my opinion, to harsh and potentially a risk to call him out for errors that were costly. The risk has payed off. Well done Lee and Jonny. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited November 2020
    Yep, I criticised the harshness of Bowyer, yet it seems to have worked. 

    We saw after lockdown Morgan came back fitter and harder working, but Saturday and tonight especially he has really shown why he is in squad contention ahead of the other unders, including Levitt...
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,178
    His career was at a fork in the road. Bowyer knew that and was trying to get Albie to head down the right path. It's looking increasingly like he's chosen the right path. Talent has always been there. The work rate is beginning to match the talent now and he's increasingly looking to get on the ball and take charge of things. Very encouraging signs indeed and I think Bowyer will be very happy with him.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Surely if he keeps working hard, he makes himself a starter; he has more passing quality than anyone else ( forgive me, I haven’t seen Gilbey play) .  
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    wmcf123 said:
    Surely if he keeps working hard, he makes himself a starter; he has more passing quality than anyone else ( forgive me, I haven’t seen Gilbey play) .  
    Shinnie's a very good passer.


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,415
    Scoham said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Surely if he keeps working hard, he makes himself a starter; he has more passing quality than anyone else ( forgive me, I haven’t seen Gilbey play) .  
    Shinnie's a very good passer.


    Then you've also got Gilbey who can definitely pass, take his assist for Alfie Doughty @ Crewe
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,253
    It is worth remembering that Albie is still only 20. He is only a few months older than Scott Parker was when he went on a short loan to Norwich and came back a much improved player, full of bite. Albie seems to have gone through something similar, without the loan. His last two games have been very different from the previous ones. His tackling and covering back have improved out of recognition, and he did not hide but kept going for the whole 90 minutes last night which shows that he must have the stamina in him. I think we need to put the inconsistent 'old Albie' out of our heads and recognise we have a first class talent coming through.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,863
    My (layman's) opinion is that you can teach someone to work harder, but you can't teach someone that bit of class that you are either born with or not.

    Which isn't to say that the player with the natural talent will always make it, but without it a player will hit a ceiling.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    killerandflash said:
    My (layman's) opinion is that you can teach someone to work harder, but you can't teach someone that bit of class that you are either born with or not.

    Which isn't to say that the player with the natural talent will always make it, but without it a player will hit a ceiling.
    This is Morgan vs Lapslie, in my view.  Morgan should be a much better player; I hope Bowyer’s tough love means that he will fulfil his potential .  Lapslie will maximise his ability, no doubt 

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