Key message from meeting for me was that Shaun Harvey confirmed that there are no outstanding EFL issues related to any Charlton takeover.
That must mean that it is all down to the price Roland is asking. Drop the price and the takeover can go ahead. Keep asking for an unrealistic price and it's groundhog day.
Key message from meeting for me was that Shaun Harvey confirmed that there are no outstanding EFL issues related to any Charlton takeover.
That must mean that it is all down to the price Roland is asking. Drop the price and the takeover can go ahead. Keep asking for an unrealistic price and it's groundhog day.
Now I realise what they meant when they said a price had been agreed by two parties. The Australians had agreed £20m and Roland had agreed £45m!
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
My thoughts exactly, The two statements are not at all contradictory.
Great demo. Well done @Davo55 for organizing, and to all the Lifers and other good folk who turned out. Apart from making the media and getting fans reps into the EFL's private sanctum, it was great to meet so many from on here.
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I think this could be a very rare phenomenon where neither party is at fault in this football related matter. Generally you'd put your money on one of them ballsing something up, and whilst those running our club have ballsed up most things, it would appear, that on the face of it, it's the Aussies who are at fault. Clearly they haven't submitted the paperwork required (as LDT stated at the fans forum), most likely because they can't, because whatever it pertains to is not in place (funding, structure etc).
What are the Aussies at fault for? - they don't have to buy the club. We don't need to be rocket scientists to see that something has happened which has persuaded them the deal isn't great for them. It seems pretty clear cut as it isn't very attractive to us based on the numbers we have seen.
What are the Aussies at fault for? - they don't have to buy the club. We don't need to be rocket scientists to see that something has happened which has persuaded them the deal isn't great for them. It seems pretty clear cut as it isn't very attractive to us based on the numbers we have seen.
Well clearly they DID want to buy the club because they turned up with scarves on. It appears in fact it was very close at the time, but the hold up is obviously at their end. Of course we aren't privvy to the reasons why the deal has stalled, but it does seem clear after the comment from the EFL today that it's neither the Club nor the EFL holding things up.
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I understand the point you are looking to make, @Covered End . However, you have forgotten that the EFL were reported as being less than happy with de Turck's pronouncements. That being the case, on the balance of probability, would not the EFL be careful to say that the test is still ongoing, if documents had not been lodged? There again, this was Shaun Harvey speaking, whom Blackpool fans have warned us to treat with caution.
Would be good to har from @Davo55 on this particular point.
@Hertsseasider were you the Blackpool rep in the meet? I am sure I am not the only one here who would be interested to learn what help if any this meet was for you guys. Maybe you (or whoever was the rep) might have a view on this particular point re the Charlton bid that we are discussing here?
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I understand the point you are looking to make, @Covered End . However, you have forgotten that the EFL were reported as being less than happy with de Turck's pronouncements. That being the case, on the balance of probability, would not the EFL be careful to say that the test is still ongoing, if documents had not been lodged? There again, this was Shaun Harvey speaking, whom Blackpool fans have warned us to treat with caution.
Would be good to har from @Davo55 on this particular point.
@Hertsseasider were you the Blackpool rep in the meet? I am sure I am not the only one here who would be interested to learn what help if any this meet was for you guys. Maybe you (or whoever was the rep) might have a view on this particular point re the Charlton bid that we are discussing here?
I've no idea Prague, which is why I said we need to be sure what is being said.
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I understand the point you are looking to make, @Covered End . However, you have forgotten that the EFL were reported as being less than happy with de Turck's pronouncements. That being the case, on the balance of probability, would not the EFL be careful to say that the test is still ongoing, if documents had not been lodged? There again, this was Shaun Harvey speaking, whom Blackpool fans have warned us to treat with caution.
Would be good to har from @Davo55 on this particular point.
@Hertsseasider were you the Blackpool rep in the meet? I am sure I am not the only one here who would be interested to learn what help if any this meet was for you guys. Maybe you (or whoever was the rep) might have a view on this particular point re the Charlton bid that we are discussing here?
I've no idea Prague, which is why I said we need to be sure what is being said.
Indeed. Lets see what @Davo55 makes of this. I am sure he is having a well earned pint or two right now.
You also have to remember that not every untruth is a lie. That things that were true no longer are and the other way round.
Could be a case of neither or both.
Unfortunately this isn't black and white.
The ODT is black and white. You've either passed it or you haven't. And I believe we fans have a right to know on this point. Whether Shaun Harvey has really told us today, is now being questioned. But let's see what our rep says on this.
Do you know what? I’ve had it with the “did they say that, did they mean this” bollocks. I have a simple view. Charlton, and Aussies, cut out the weasel words and just tell the whole truth for once in this goddamned sorry saga. We, the fans, the lifeblood of the club, deserve better than to have to decipher convenient half truths.
Oh yeah, and thank you to all those on here you turned out to support today’s protest. Great to meet you all and I think we helped to make a bit of a difference.
I think we need to be sure what is being said. LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL. LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
I think you’re right, which would also tell us the Aussie bid is dead as a door nail if the required documentation hasn’t even been submitted after all this time.
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Anything that embarrasses the old scrote can only be a good thing.
Well done all involved.
Drop the price and the takeover can go ahead.
Keep asking for an unrealistic price and it's groundhog day.
LDT was quoted at last meeting -
"He explained that, as per the last meeting, the Australian consortium have a deal fully agreed and just need to submit final papers to the EFL.
LDT said he doesn’t know when documents will be lodged. He said he is talking to the group every couple of days."
So it may just be that the Australains never submitted the necessary documents and therefore there is no delay caused by the EFL, which is why the EFL say "no one is waiting for an EFL response".
If this is the case then LDT was not lying. Like I always say I have no time for RD, but I do always look for the truth, rather than spin.
Perhaps, the real situation may get clarified in due course, without all parties being economical with the truth.
Could be a case of neither or both.
Unfortunately this isn't black and white.
Well done all who took part.
Would be good to har from @Davo55 on this particular point.
@Hertsseasider were you the Blackpool rep in the meet? I am sure I am not the only one here who would be interested to learn what help if any this meet was for you guys. Maybe you (or whoever was the rep) might have a view on this particular point re the Charlton bid that we are discussing here?
The ODT is black and white. You've either passed it or you haven't. And I believe we fans have a right to know on this point. Whether Shaun Harvey has really told us today, is now being questioned. But let's see what our rep says on this.