As some one who's work dabbles in VFX it's mind blowing what jackson has achieved. Incredible that his teams have essentially created frames which has "smoothed" out the original footage's low frame rate to 25fps which looks smooth to the naked eye. Plus all the paint work to remove all the dust and damaged footage.
I have spent the last four years through wincing eyes as commemoration after commeoration has been slightly tainted by us putting a modern slant on remembrance, trying to recreate the last scene of Blackadder or over egging the omelette.
This I hope will show us the Great War through their eyes and staring into their eyes, it looks, just stunning,
I hope as many people as possible get to see this incrdible work, I cant wait, well done Peter Jackson
I suppose that will always happen and is better than not trying to commemorate. The last scene of Blackadder made a lot of people think what it might have been like to go over the trench to your certain death.
But I can understand your point and this looks like it is really going to bring real people to life in a special way.
We have our Armistice, 100 year ceremony at the Greenhithe & Swanscombe Royal British Legion, obvs 11/11, last post ceremony at 11:00 & 18:00. Cheap bar, All day entertainment and hot food available, in the evening after last post ceremony, we have an outside cinema screen with a short film on WW1, and other related topics. Fireworks and choir, as well as evening entertainment.
Agree @MuttleyCAFC, the point was more that for the dramatic effect Blackadder had, and I am a huge fan, the reality remains that 1 in 6 went to certain death and perhaps not enough focus was spent on the 5 out of 6 who came home, how the world they came home to had changed and in what state they personally were in.
There have been too many unfounded stereotypes and myths portrayed such as Gallipoli only involved Australians, the Advance to Victory was Canadian and a huge overplaying of the role of women and animals (by exaggerating loses the context of their contribution), by the same token the war winning part played by the French and Americans in 1918 together with the growth of Britains Industrial Capacity and the absolutely vital Royal Naval role was pretty much ignored.
This I think will suceed where the movie 'Journeys End' a movie that strayed from the original play, 'War Horse' and incredible play and yet awful film and 'Wipers Times' (an ok but to my mind unconvincing modern interpretation of a powerful historical story), fell short.
Its not been all bad, I thought the Tower Poppies, the silent soldiers on the buses and at stations and the Mesh Theatre production of Journeys End in Poperinghe and Ypres (a must see if you can) were all superb.
Ultimately though any remembrance is better than none and I have high hopes this will get it just right.
That will always happen. I do understand your point. Later war I know, Darkest Hour, the Churchill film was a great film in many ways but it failed to portray the support Attlee gave him against the appeasers in parliament. They were political enemies, but great allies during the war when the country needed them. In the film Attlee was only briefly portrayed and as Churchill's enemy. The first bit fair enough, the focus was on Churchill but the second bit disrespectful and untrue.
Then the people who came home from the war and the families who lost people rejected Churchill. Not Churchill the man, the great war leader he undoubtably was, but they wanted something better after making the ultimate sacrifices for their country. It is quite common for people nowadays to claim these people who lost loved ones and risked their lives were ungrateful. They insult them and that is why understanding the reality is important and why distorting it has dangers.
I am sorry for skipping to another war, but I think it makes the point you make. We should strive to understand, learn and respect.
That will always happen. I do understand your point. Later war I know, Darkest Hour, the Churchill film was a great film in many ways but it failed to portray the support Attlee gave him against the appeasers in parliament. They were political enemies, but great allies during the war when the country needed them. In the film Attlee was only briefly portrayed and as Churchill's enemy. The first bit fair enough, the focus was on Churchill but the second bit disrespectful.
Then the people who came home from the war and the families who lost people rejected Churchill. Not Churchill the man, the great war leader he undoubtably was, but they wanted something better after making the ultimate sacrifices for their country. It is quite common for people nowadays to claim these people who lost loved ones and risked their lives were ungrateful. They insult them and that is why understanding the reality is important and why distorting it has dangers.
I am sorry for skipping to another war, but I think it makes the point you make. We should strive to understand, learn and respect.
The two are connected.
Much of the mistrust of Churchill was because of Gallipoli yet Attlee, who was at Gallipoli had great respect for Churchill and Churchill for him
Correct Ben and 100% relevant @MuttleyCAFC to bring in 1939/45 most wars are connected or a cause and effect of previous conflict, in the same way the shadow of the Franco-Prussian War and the 1912 Balkan Wars are so relevant to 1914-18.
This is a violent outbreak of agreement, not common on CL!
Correct Ben and 100% relevant @MuttleyCAFC to bring in 1939/45 most wars are connected or a cause and effect of previous conflict, in the same way the shadow of the Franco-Prussian War and the 1912 Balkan Wars are so relevant to 1914-18.
This is a violent outbreak of agreement, not common on CL!
Hoping this is on in Chelmsford. My dad would love it, he's massively into WW1 and we'd often go on holiday to Belgium and scour the woodland for bits and pieces. His house is like a museum.
I saw a bit with Jackson. It was interesting to hear that he had lip readers watch the films to figure out what was being said, and then had the dubbed into the soundtrack.
I saw a bit with Jackson. It was interesting to hear that he had lip readers watch the films to figure out what was being said, and then had the dubbed into the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Do1p1CWyc 
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Will be distributed to schools for showing.
Can't wait to see it.
This I hope will show us the Great War through their eyes and staring into their eyes, it looks, just stunning,
I hope as many people as possible get to see this incrdible work, I cant wait, well done Peter Jackson
But I can understand your point and this looks like it is really going to bring real people to life in a special way.
Cheap bar, All day entertainment and hot food available, in the evening after last post ceremony, we have an outside cinema screen with a short film on WW1, and other related topics. Fireworks and choir, as well as evening entertainment.
All welcome if your in your area
There have been too many unfounded stereotypes and myths portrayed such as Gallipoli only involved Australians, the Advance to Victory was Canadian and a huge overplaying of the role of women and animals (by exaggerating loses the context of their contribution), by the same token the war winning part played by the French and Americans in 1918 together with the growth of Britains Industrial Capacity and the absolutely vital Royal Naval role was pretty much ignored.
This I think will suceed where the movie 'Journeys End' a movie that strayed from the original play, 'War Horse' and incredible play and yet awful film and 'Wipers Times' (an ok but to my mind unconvincing modern interpretation of a powerful historical story), fell short.
Its not been all bad, I thought the Tower Poppies, the silent soldiers on the buses and at stations and the Mesh Theatre production of Journeys End in Poperinghe and Ypres (a must see if you can) were all superb.
Ultimately though any remembrance is better than none and I have high hopes this will get it just right.
Then the people who came home from the war and the families who lost people rejected Churchill. Not Churchill the man, the great war leader he undoubtably was, but they wanted something better after making the ultimate sacrifices for their country. It is quite common for people nowadays to claim these people who lost loved ones and risked their lives were ungrateful. They insult them and that is why understanding the reality is important and why distorting it has dangers.
I am sorry for skipping to another war, but I think it makes the point you make. We should strive to understand, learn and respect.
Much of the mistrust of Churchill was because of Gallipoli yet Attlee, who was at Gallipoli had great respect for Churchill and Churchill for him
I initially thought that the tanks was a modern day bit of filming rather than part of the restoration
This is a violent outbreak of agreement, not common on CL!
Attlee was our greatest post war Prime Minister
Didn't he lose an eye at Arras?
This was just to make sure he got the colours of the landscapes around the soldiers as accurate as possible.