Totally disagree with the comment about the Spanish league - teams like Sevilla, Betis and Espanyol are hardly the standard of Championship teams. It's a far more open league than people who don't watch it think, as shown by the current table and some of the results this season. Comparing La Liga teams to League One level is ridiculous.
I agree CM, but however, its always RM or Barca that win it. At least in the Prem you can have 4/5 teams that win it, and errrr,,,,Leicester.
A complete myth.
The number of premier league sides winning the title in the past 20 years is exactly the same as the number of different La Liga winners.
What are the numbers though , how is it shared around
If barca have won it 9 times Madrid 8 times atletico 1 seville 1 villareal 1 That’s worse than Man Utd 9 Arsenal 3 chelsea 4 Man City 4 leicester 1
I’ve completely just made up numbers there but just making the point that if it’s spread out amongst the few winners more is better than the domination of just a couple of teams
Since the turn of the century:
Barca 9 Real Madrid 6 Valencia 2 Atletico 1 Deportivo 1
Man U 8 Chelsea 5 City 3 Arsenal 2 Leicester 1
Naturally Barca and Real dominate in Spain but then again Man U probably would've won about 5 more were it not for the takeovers at Chelsea and City. This is why i hate it when people moan about those clubs only being successful because of the oil money. Who cares? It's helped make our league competitive.
If you take the winners from last 10 years..
La liga, Barca 7,RM 2 AM 1 Prem, MU 3,Che 3,MC 3,Lei 1
A wider split methinks.
True but as i said in an earlier post that's only because of the money invested at Chelsea and City. If 2 guys pumped a billion pounds into Sevilla and Villarreal 10-15 years ago then i'm sure they'd have won a couple of titles.
Or if Chelsea and City HADN'T received the investment Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs would have won their titles?
Another win tonight for Alcorcon, 2-0 at home to Real Zaragoza, and are now three points clear at the top. Only conceded 6 goals in 15 games and are looking very good. Maybe it will be La Liga for them.next year...
Another win tonight for Alcorcon, 2-0 at home to Real Zaragoza, and are now three points clear at the top. Only conceded 6 goals in 15 games and are looking very good. Maybe it will be La Liga for them.next year...
Sorry you beat me to it, their twitter account is great covered 4 games today.
From El Confidencial, a long article part 1, not entirely factually correct, even allowing for Google translate:
The Alcorcón, the familiar Second leader who governs a Belgian with peace and good vibes
The revelation of League 123 has only two outsiders on the payroll, the fifth lowest budget and an owner obsessed with promoting brotherhood between hobbies and eradicating violence in football
11/25/2018 05:00
"Until the last minute of the last game" is the battle cry that presides over the entrance to the turf of Santo Domingo since the times of Anquela and that historic 4-0 to the Madrid of Pellegrini that placed on the map of the planetary football the Sports Association Alcorcón . That 'You'll never walk alone' potter with scent cholista (although born before Simeone landed back at the Calderón) inspired last Sunday to version 2.0 of a squad that stretched to the rattle of the stake in front of El Roqueño Elche dream of reaching the top of the 123 League alone , to the surprise of Malaga, Granada and Deportivo, the three great winners of that steep Everest in which the silver category has become in the last three years.
" Humility, effort, a lot of work and enjoy every week, we have to continue on that path, we try to be a competitive team, a group, a pineapple, make a solidarity effort among all of us, which is not easy. players". In this way defined Cristóbal Parralo the vital signs of the brand new leader of the Second, mythical club in the south of Madrid to which neither a limited budget (the fifth lowest of the category) or have avoided the decline in the final day of the two Last exercises are preventing dreaming with dimensions for which, 'a priori', was not predestined.
Located a short distance from the place where Andrés Torrejón, former mayor of neighboring Móstoles, declared war on Napoleon back in 1808, the Municipal of Santo Domingo is much more than an unapproachable redoubt in which they have already given up to date Deportivo , Granada, Mallorca or Oviedo, among others. It is the agora where their ten official clubs live together (El Crono, Corazón Amarillo, Puchero, El Foro, Santo Domingo, Valderas, Esteban Márquez, Petaka, Potter Pride and Yellow Side), followers, supporters and players in a good climate. roll that pursues fidelizar to all that one that is animated to enfilar until the end the endless Avenue of Pablo Churches.
Behind the goals of Juan Muñoz , the stops of Dani Jiménez and lately Raúl Lizoain , his impenetrable back (he has only received six goals in 14 games), the hierarchy of the incombustible Laure or the fact of being the only team in the leagues of the ' top five 'European who has not violated their networks during the first act, underlies the vital philosophy of Roland Duchatelet (Merksem, 1946), the Belgian billionaire who was made in 2014 with the reins of an entity closely linked to the past potter of Alcorcón , a town that became famous in the Middle Ages for the artisanal manufacture of pots.
"Since his arrival, Roland has been very concerned that Santo Domingo is a place of confluence for our people from the previous, during the game and in the post-game. His pretense is that the ADA is something more than coming to watch a football game. Make it a meeting place where you can share moments , whether good or bad. Among all we strive to bring the club to the fan, so that we are a real family, "says the press officer, Fidel Castrejón.
His particular ethic of life and his eagerness to eradicate violence in sports led his owner to promote, just after planting a flag in Santo Domingo, the creation of a 'fan zone' for the matches in which the Alcorcón acts as a local . The club mounts a tent on the access ramp to Gate 2 of the stadium, where from an hour before the initial beep can fraternize fans of the two teams listening to good music, eating, drinking and even participating in different contests, draws or yincanas who design in the marketing department.
Embarked for decades in the struggle to equalize the rights of women, Duchatelet was marked as one of its priority objectives to promote women's football within the club . Not in vain, his last great achievement has arrived this same season with the creation of the senior women's team, whose final goal is none other than to reach the Iberdrola League in the medium term.
The unrepentant passion that this septuagenarian engineer professes for the round since his youth, in addition to having the greatest wealth of BENELUX, has led him to collect equipment throughout Europe: today he also controls the Sint Truiden of his country, the Ujpest Hungarian FC and Carl Zeiss Jena in Germany . On the way he got rid of Standard de Liège, one of the greats of Belgium, and more recently of the English Charlton.
But Duchatelet is not Abramovich, much less Florentino. Diametrically opposed to the practice of order and command, the Belgian delegates the day to day of their clubs in people of their most complete trust. No interference of any kind. While the Sint Truiden presides over his wife, Marikje Hofte; or his son Roderick manages the Ujpest; in the Alcorcón are Ignacio Legido and Enrique Pérez, at that time president and general manager, respectively, who make the most relevant decisions . Without forgetting David Navarro, the sports director and the great culprit that Cristóbal Parralo arrived last summer to the bench of the yellow team.
Although you can not see much in the south of the capital, the good of Roland is aware of everything that happens inside the Santo Domingo. And he is delighted with some initiatives that the club has implemented during this year, in the case of the 'media day', open days for the media that usually cover the information of the team in which they can sit and chat without haste of time with the president, sports director, coach or a player of the first team.
Similarly, the radio program 'Yellow Fever' , now in podcast format, which can be heard through the club's website, is serving so that the 3,100 subscribers and thousands of fans of the team beyond the seas can know the most human of its footballers , discover that the extreme Borja Galán is about to finish the career of criminology, that the children of Carlos Bellvís go to bed each night dressed in his father's suit or laugh with anecdotes like that they lived this summer in Madrid Rodas, Gavilán and Víctor Casadesús, when they were prevented from entering a restaurant to dine because the Spaniard was wearing flip flops, which moved Gavilán to enter a shop to buy some shoes for the front.
" We already have 17 programs and the truth is that it is having a great acceptance among the followers, in each edition we have a player from the first team and the funny thing is that they are the ones who are nominated to come to the next one, leaving in the inkwell a question that the chosen one will have to answer to the other week ", explains Castrejón, at that time also the voice that announces the changes and sings the goals potters during the duels.
In the 'fan zone' of Alcorcón there is also room for children. (Photo: AD Alcorcón Press) In the 'fan zone' of Alcorcón there is also room for children. (Photo: AD Alcorcón Press)
With a salary cap of just five kilos and only two foreigners on the payroll (the Argentine Esteban Burgos and the Mauritanian Aly Abeid ), finding the formula of Coca-Cola in this unrecorded Alcorcón is simpler than it seems. "The costumes, it's one of the best I've been in, not only because there are great players, but because there are great people," says veteran David Fernandez , one of the bastions of the defensive axis.
To close the circle, two calm men at the controls, Cristóbal and his inseparable Javier Manjarín , have known how to properly adjust the keys of the eleven that chiseló Julio Velázquez from simplicity and normality. "He is a very demanding coach, but he always asks you what you can give, the error is allowed, but the reaction to that error must be immediate, on a personal level, Cristóbal is a piece of bread," says Borja Galán, probably the member of the team that best knows him after two years in the subsidiary of Dépor.
The commitment of both technicians with the pottery company and their desire to continue growing with the team were revealed two weekends ago when, after returning to Madrid late in the morning after beating the Lugo, made an appearance at mid-morning, without hardly sleeping, at Cerro del Espino to see Atlético B-Salamanca. The winter market is just around the corner and you have to be prepared for what may happen in January .
Still in a downward spiral. 2 points out of last 21 now, still just in top 6 (the last of the promotion play-off places), but only 7 pts behind top-of-the-table Malaga.
On Twitter people are asking if this is confirmed, as Harris apparently denied it yesterday. Also, while I can't see the source, the price was stated at €70m, but this would be ludicrous, not least because the FT revealed that Ronaldo bought Real Valladolid controlling stake for €28m.
I am not surprised he would be selling it, but scrub the zero off that €70m for heavens sake.
The final paragraph now says: Apollo Global Management's Alice McGillion later claimed that there was no truth in the story and that Harris had not bought the Spanish outfit.
On Twitter people are asking if this is confirmed, as Harris apparently denied it yesterday. Also, while I can't see the source, the price was stated at €70m, but this would be ludicrous, not least because the FT revealed that Ronaldo bought Real Valladolid controlling stake for €28m.
I am not surprised he would be selling it, but scrub the zero off that €70m for heavens sake.
Roland is consistently deluded no matter which club he's selling
On Twitter people are asking if this is confirmed, as Harris apparently denied it yesterday. Also, while I can't see the source, the price was stated at €70m, but this would be ludicrous, not least because the FT revealed that Ronaldo bought Real Valladolid controlling stake for €28m.
I am not surprised he would be selling it, but scrub the zero off that €70m for heavens sake.
On Twitter people are asking if this is confirmed, as Harris apparently denied it yesterday. Also, while I can't see the source, the price was stated at €70m, but this would be ludicrous, not least because the FT revealed that Ronaldo bought Real Valladolid controlling stake for €28m.
I am not surprised he would be selling it, but scrub the zero off that €70m for heavens sake.
If you’re talking about this €70m @PragueAddick then you can relax. It was me taking the piss of the alleged price for us!!!! 😉
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The Alcorcón, the familiar Second leader who governs a Belgian with peace and good vibes
The revelation of League 123 has only two outsiders on the payroll, the fifth lowest budget and an owner obsessed with promoting brotherhood between hobbies and eradicating violence in football
11/25/2018 05:00
"Until the last minute of the last game" is the battle cry that presides over the entrance to the turf of Santo Domingo since the times of Anquela and that historic 4-0 to the Madrid of Pellegrini that placed on the map of the planetary football the Sports Association Alcorcón . That 'You'll never walk alone' potter with scent cholista (although born before Simeone landed back at the Calderón) inspired last Sunday to version 2.0 of a squad that stretched to the rattle of the stake in front of El Roqueño Elche dream of reaching the top of the 123 League alone , to the surprise of Malaga, Granada and Deportivo, the three great winners of that steep Everest in which the silver category has become in the last three years.
" Humility, effort, a lot of work and enjoy every week, we have to continue on that path, we try to be a competitive team, a group, a pineapple, make a solidarity effort among all of us, which is not easy. players". In this way defined Cristóbal Parralo the vital signs of the brand new leader of the Second, mythical club in the south of Madrid to which neither a limited budget (the fifth lowest of the category) or have avoided the decline in the final day of the two Last exercises are preventing dreaming with dimensions for which, 'a priori', was not predestined.
Located a short distance from the place where Andrés Torrejón, former mayor of neighboring Móstoles, declared war on Napoleon back in 1808, the Municipal of Santo Domingo is much more than an unapproachable redoubt in which they have already given up to date Deportivo , Granada, Mallorca or Oviedo, among others. It is the agora where their ten official clubs live together (El Crono, Corazón Amarillo, Puchero, El Foro, Santo Domingo, Valderas, Esteban Márquez, Petaka, Potter Pride and Yellow Side), followers, supporters and players in a good climate. roll that pursues fidelizar to all that one that is animated to enfilar until the end the endless Avenue of Pablo Churches.
Behind the goals of Juan Muñoz , the stops of Dani Jiménez and lately Raúl Lizoain , his impenetrable back (he has only received six goals in 14 games), the hierarchy of the incombustible Laure or the fact of being the only team in the leagues of the ' top five 'European who has not violated their networks during the first act, underlies the vital philosophy of Roland Duchatelet (Merksem, 1946), the Belgian billionaire who was made in 2014 with the reins of an entity closely linked to the past potter of Alcorcón , a town that became famous in the Middle Ages for the artisanal manufacture of pots.
"Since his arrival, Roland has been very concerned that Santo Domingo is a place of confluence for our people from the previous, during the game and in the post-game. His pretense is that the ADA is something more than coming to watch a football game. Make it a meeting place where you can share moments , whether good or bad. Among all we strive to bring the club to the fan, so that we are a real family, "says the press officer, Fidel Castrejón.
'Fan zone' to twin hobbies
His particular ethic of life and his eagerness to eradicate violence in sports led his owner to promote, just after planting a flag in Santo Domingo, the creation of a 'fan zone' for the matches in which the Alcorcón acts as a local . The club mounts a tent on the access ramp to Gate 2 of the stadium, where from an hour before the initial beep can fraternize fans of the two teams listening to good music, eating, drinking and even participating in different contests, draws or yincanas who design in the marketing department.
Embarked for decades in the struggle to equalize the rights of women, Duchatelet was marked as one of its priority objectives to promote women's football within the club . Not in vain, his last great achievement has arrived this same season with the creation of the senior women's team, whose final goal is none other than to reach the Iberdrola League in the medium term.
The unrepentant passion that this septuagenarian engineer professes for the round since his youth, in addition to having the greatest wealth of BENELUX, has led him to collect equipment throughout Europe: today he also controls the Sint Truiden of his country, the Ujpest Hungarian FC and Carl Zeiss Jena in Germany . On the way he got rid of Standard de Liège, one of the greats of Belgium, and more recently of the English Charlton.
But Duchatelet is not Abramovich, much less Florentino. Diametrically opposed to the practice of order and command, the Belgian delegates the day to day of their clubs in people of their most complete trust. No interference of any kind. While the Sint Truiden presides over his wife, Marikje Hofte; or his son Roderick manages the Ujpest; in the Alcorcón are Ignacio Legido and Enrique Pérez, at that time president and general manager, respectively, who make the most relevant decisions . Without forgetting David Navarro, the sports director and the great culprit that Cristóbal Parralo arrived last summer to the bench of the yellow team.
Although you can not see much in the south of the capital, the good of Roland is aware of everything that happens inside the Santo Domingo. And he is delighted with some initiatives that the club has implemented during this year, in the case of the 'media day', open days for the media that usually cover the information of the team in which they can sit and chat without haste of time with the president, sports director, coach or a player of the first team.
'Yellow Fever', a podcast with flip
Similarly, the radio program 'Yellow Fever' , now in podcast format, which can be heard through the club's website, is serving so that the 3,100 subscribers and thousands of fans of the team beyond the seas can know the most human of its footballers , discover that the extreme Borja Galán is about to finish the career of criminology, that the children of Carlos Bellvís go to bed each night dressed in his father's suit or laugh with anecdotes like that they lived this summer in Madrid Rodas, Gavilán and Víctor Casadesús, when they were prevented from entering a restaurant to dine because the Spaniard was wearing flip flops, which moved Gavilán to enter a shop to buy some shoes for the front.
" We already have 17 programs and the truth is that it is having a great acceptance among the followers, in each edition we have a player from the first team and the funny thing is that they are the ones who are nominated to come to the next one, leaving in the inkwell a question that the chosen one will have to answer to the other week ", explains Castrejón, at that time also the voice that announces the changes and sings the goals potters during the duels.
In the 'fan zone' of Alcorcón there is also room for children. (Photo: AD Alcorcón Press)
In the 'fan zone' of Alcorcón there is also room for children. (Photo: AD Alcorcón Press)
With a salary cap of just five kilos and only two foreigners on the payroll (the Argentine Esteban Burgos and the Mauritanian Aly Abeid ), finding the formula of Coca-Cola in this unrecorded Alcorcón is simpler than it seems. "The costumes, it's one of the best I've been in, not only because there are great players, but because there are great people," says veteran David Fernandez , one of the bastions of the defensive axis.
To close the circle, two calm men at the controls, Cristóbal and his inseparable Javier Manjarín , have known how to properly adjust the keys of the eleven that chiseló Julio Velázquez from simplicity and normality. "He is a very demanding coach, but he always asks you what you can give, the error is allowed, but the reaction to that error must be immediate, on a personal level, Cristóbal is a piece of bread," says Borja Galán, probably the member of the team that best knows him after two years in the subsidiary of Dépor.
The commitment of both technicians with the pottery company and their desire to continue growing with the team were revealed two weekends ago when, after returning to Madrid late in the morning after beating the Lugo, made an appearance at mid-morning, without hardly sleeping, at Cerro del Espino to see Atlético B-Salamanca. The winter market is just around the corner and you have to be prepared for what may happen in January .
https://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/futbol/segunda-division/2018-11-25/alcorcon-lider-liga-123-roland-duchatelet_1663238/
https://en.as.com/en/2019/05/13/football/1557774893_632648.amp.html?id_externo_rsoc=comp_tw&__twitter_impression=true
Be ironic because he hates us more than the rest of them combined.
I am not surprised he would be selling it, but scrub the zero off that €70m for heavens sake.
The final paragraph now says:
Apollo Global Management's Alice McGillion later claimed that there was no truth in the story and that Harris had not bought the Spanish outfit.
When does the oil drilling start?
If you’re talking about this €70m @PragueAddick then you can relax. It was me taking the piss of the alleged price for us!!!! 😉
https://twitter.com/telmc1/status/1128283202978758658?s=21
STVV-sold 2017
Alcorcon-sold 2019
He is selling 1 club every 2 years, looks like we are stuck with him till 2021 at the earliest