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NEW ARTICLE: Roland Duchâtelet’s cut and shut excuses for his failing vehicle

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,283
    HarryLime said:

    Funny that one of those young uneducated and unintelligent players, Nick Pope, told me and @Fanny Fanackapan to our faces that it didn't bother the players and if anything it helped as our players knew it was coming but the other team maybe didn't.

    But we know that Pope was so terrified when we played Burnley that they signed him as an act of kindness to get away from the horror of plastic pigs.

    I haven't heard much about his career since so assume the protests have reduced him to a quivering wreck.

    Henry, you know full well that this poor young uneducated boy was probably intimidated by you and Fanny into saying what you wanted to hear, only a man with empathy such as Duchatelet knows exactly their feelings.
    I prefer to think that as Nick and I are both of normal height we had a rare affinity.

  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,034
    I am not on Facebook or any other like, but can someone text Chris Wilder on "Chris Wilder (@ChrisWildersufc) | Twitter", and ask him for his opinion on RD's statement.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,424
    ross1 said:

    I am not on Facebook or any other like, but can someone text Chris Wilder on "Chris Wilder (@ChrisWildersufc) | Twitter", and ask him for his opinion on RD's statement.

    According to blades fans he doesn't do any social media, but some of the fans have picked up on it.
  • What I find interesting is that even back in May, when members of ROT talked with Duchâtelet, he said that Wilder didn't come because he felt threatened by posts on this forum. He claimed then that he had texts (I take it he meant printed copies of the posts in question), to prove his claim, - see below.

    He's been sitting on this idea then for at least six months, so it begs the question as to who's idea it was to cut & shut, and when it was first considered. The work of Rubbershoe or RD?

    Excerpt from discussion 18th May 2018:

    b>ROT 3 Russell Slade?

    ROT 2 No, no, here

    RD No no no no, the one who is, he went to Sheffield United huh

    ROT 1 Oh, Chris Wilder

    ROT 2 Ah, Chris Wilder yeah

    RD And his associate. In fact we found him, I did fly him into Belgium. He signed with Charlton, and then there were rumours about him coming, and also on the website Charlton er….. Charlton Life huh

    ROT 2 Yeah

    RD There were also some people saying well if he comes we will er, force him out and so forth, and he didn’t come. He just said ok……

    ROT 1 No I don’t think anyone said they would force him out, I think there was speculation……

    RD No no no

    ROT 1 No I……

    RD I can give you some texts

    ROT 1 I’d be interested to see that about forcing him out

    ROT 2 Yeah

    RD I can give you some texts which exactly say, come and we will, we will… er don’t and they really said don’t come to Charlton. Then he er….

    ROT 1 There was speculation about him not having control of signings, and, and this was why in the end he didn’t, in the end he didn’t......

    RD No that was not the reality

    ROT 1 But that was the speculation, whether it was reality or not

    RD The reality is that he didn’t dare because of these fans who were against me huh. And he of course as a manager, I’m his boss huh, and he was afraid that this was, and you see where he is now

    ROT 3 He felt threatened did he?

    RD He felt threatened sure. So if you er… Karel Fraeye when he was there huh. He was threatened also by the fans, sure he was huh

    ROT 3 What, face to face?

    RD Yeah sure, yeah, yeah

    ROT 4 Yeah but I mean, there was a guy who was totally out of his depth, he should never have been put in place as manager

    RD That’s another discussion huh, but I can tell you, and also…..

    ROT 1 It’s true (that Fraeye was out of his depth)

    RD Riga also he was very scared huh by the whole situation

    ROT 1 He was very well received by the fans and appreciated by the fans

    ROT 2 We liked Riga

    ROT 3 Yeah

    RD Yeah but the second time he was scared by the situation, was very, very cautious to what he would say and what he would not say and was very scared to say anything good about me huh, and so forth huh

    ROT 2 Right

    RD That’s the reality, also the players huh, they were also, they said this is a very, very bad thing ok

    ROT 3 I’d hate to think some players felt threatened

    ROT 2 Did some players want to leave the club?

    RD No but they, they er, if you have to play under such circumstances huh, you, how can you manage this in your head huh, that you have to play while your fans are against you, are putting balls on the pitch

    ROT 4 But it wasn’t against the players, it was against you

    RD Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they all understood that huh

    ROT 4 The players are professionals

    RD Well that’s typical English thinking. No they are not professionals, they are young boys without education, well a little bit of education and little intelligence, and that’s the problem. The problem is that you guys thought huh, that they would understand that, no they don’t understand. This is very difficult rational thinking for them, they wouldn’t understand

    ROT 4 Well you’d expect managers would

    RD Managers, like for example….

    ROT 4 Hmmm Chris Wilder

    RD Chris Wilder? Well

    ROT 4 He felt threatened did he?

    RD He felt threatened

    ROT 4 Physically threatened?

    RD No, physically not but he felt that if he would come….

    ROT 1 By the situation?

    RD He was not welcome

    ROT 3 Okay



    Riga Loved this club and the fans he did not have a bad word to say about the fans when i spoke with Riga during July 2017 in Belgium.

    On the other hand what he said about Roland will Always stay with me.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,413
    I reckon we have fallen for the great Rock n Roll swindle.
    There never were any Aussies or second bidder keeping themselves private.
    It’s just an RD mechanism to stop the embarrassing protests.
    No takeover takes this long and is this complicated.
  • Talk to us when you've got the tape off your shoe
  • foresthillred
    foresthillred Posts: 1,436
    edited October 2018

    What I find interesting is that even back in May, when members of ROT talked with Duchâtelet, he said that Wilder didn't come because he felt threatened by posts on this forum. He claimed then that he had texts (I take it he meant printed copies of the posts in question), to prove his claim, - see below.


    Riga Loved this club and the fans he did not have a bad word to say about the fans when i spoke with Riga during July 2017 in Belgium.

    On the other hand what he said about Roland will Always stay with me.


    Any chance of sharing please?
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,907
    edited November 2018
    Duchatelet is like a really crap evil genius cartoon character.

    He spins his half-truths and fairy tales not thinking that there are people out there who might just check his 'facts' before he then blames Scooby Doo and the gang for foiling his masterplan.

    Just stick to running Fawlty Towers Hotel Stayen mate.
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812

    Pity Karel Fraye didn't read the site

    he did - he was printing off Nathan Prior's tactical advice & passing it to the player's mid match
  • ross1 said:

    I am not on Facebook or any other like, but can someone text Chris Wilder on "Chris Wilder (@ChrisWildersufc) | Twitter", and ask him for his opinion on RD's statement.

    Would love him to comment but would be very surprised. Football is a small world and he will know that slagging our owner could come to bite him if he wanted to buy a player of ours in future for example.

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,034

    ross1 said:

    I am not on Facebook or any other like, but can someone text Chris Wilder on "Chris Wilder (@ChrisWildersufc) | Twitter", and ask him for his opinion on RD's statement.

    Would love him to comment but would be very surprised. Football is a small world and he will know that slagging our owner could come to bite him if he wanted to buy a player of ours in future for example.
    Surely it is not slagging off RD, if RD is lying. He just has to tell the truth as to why he did not join Charlton
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    What a sad state of affairs this is and should be a salutary lesson to the FA when it comes to who is fit or not fit to own a Football club, although I doubt it will. Moreover it is clear that RD is happy to use spin and deceit to shift blame on the state of the club without compunction, this demonstrates a streak of ruthlessness not uncommon in rich and powerful men, Philip Green springs to mind here.

    I no longer believe that there is any buy out taking place and what's more I think RD couldn't care less he is happy to let the club run as it is. I say this because his "network" theory has now been absolutely proved to be wrong and so his interest has waned. I also think that there is an element of spite and malice playing here as we as fans have been responsible for creating all sorts of problems for him and indeed tarnishing his reputation, with good cause I would say, so he has a "fuck you" attitude.

    Unfortunately we got tangled up with this nasty, vindictive scrote and it has been the ruination of the club I see no positives here unless some Billionaire wanders in and says "Here's 50Mill now fuck off" and how likely is that to happen?
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Let's remember that RD is also a politician (still party leader of VIVANT).

    Politicians are of course renowned for their openness and honesty when responding to questions in an interview,

    The bonus for us is that, in attempting to prove his superior intellect, compared with the fans, the players, the comms team, etc., he just succeeded in making himself appear an arrogant fool.

    Now we just need to find ways to turn this back on him, especially in Belgium where his reputation is even more important to him than in the UK.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,720

    What a sad state of affairs this is and should be a salutary lesson to the FA when it comes to who is fit or not fit to own a Football club, although I doubt it will. Moreover it is clear that RD is happy to use spin and deceit to shift blame on the state of the club without compunction, this demonstrates a streak of ruthlessness not uncommon in rich and powerful men, Philip Green springs to mind here.

    I no longer believe that there is any buy out taking place and what's more I think RD couldn't care less he is happy to let the club run as it is. I say this because his "network" theory has now been absolutely proved to be wrong and so his interest has waned. I also think that there is an element of spite and malice playing here as we as fans have been responsible for creating all sorts of problems for him and indeed tarnishing his reputation, with good cause I would say, so he has a "fuck you" attitude.

    Unfortunately we got tangled up with this nasty, vindictive scrote and it has been the ruination of the club I see no positives here unless some Billionaire wanders in and says "Here's 50Mill now fuck off" and how likely is that to happen?

    With posts like this you should contribute more often.
    Quality.