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WW1 Poetry

Wasn't sure whether to start a new thread or not but as it is such an auspicious day and all that.

Re-read this recently as I was to the radio about how Wilfred Owen's mother had opened and read the letter informing her of her sons death just as the local church was pealing the bells to celebrate the armistice. His poetry is always bleak but the first two stanzas from A Terre bring the full horror and waste of life in the trenches and slaps you round the face.

A Terre

BY WILFRED OWEN

(Being the philosophy of many Soldiers.)

Sit on the bed; I'm blind, and three parts shell.
Be careful; can't shake hands now; never shall.
Both arms have mutinied against me,—brutes.
My fingers fidget like ten idle brats.

I tried to peg out soldierly,—no use!
One dies of war like any old disease.
This bandage feels like pennies on my eyes.
I have my medals?—Discs to make eyes close.
My glorious ribbons?—Ripped from my own back
In scarlet shreds. (That's for your poetry book.)

Comments

  • Thanks, Cordovan, I'd never read that one before. As an English teacher, I've often taught Owen's 'Disabled' to the kids and placed great emphasis on how the seriously depressed soldier in that poem, who loves football and young women, was probably only a couple of years older than they are.
  • The Unborn

    I weep for the unborn.
    Their fathers died at the western front,
    Some; only conceived in the minds of maidens.
    No stirring of the loins.
    No Peacock showing feathers.
    No being the brightest star.
    In drab, dank post Edwardian Britain
    with its Victorian vignette,
    darkened by industrial smog
    graying the gas lights
    in a myopic haze.

    I weep for the unborn.
    Their fathers given guns before they barely knew how to shave.
    Did they have time to embrace and dance the steps of courtship in smart clean collars,
    laundered by mothers while sharing big brother's shoes ?

    I weep for the unborn.
    Commonwealth countries coerced
    fathers from faraway lands
    into this European power struggle.
    Black, white and people of colour,
    United by veins spilling the same red blood as archaic empires sharpened their talons of war.

    Sanderstead poet.
  • Wear your poppy by Carol Peirce.

    Wear your poppy with pride today,
    honour all those who died and pray,
    that all they fought for was not in vain,
    their fear their strength,their hope, their pain
    wear your poppy with pride.
    Think of those that never came back,
    the gunfire,explosions, under attack,
    friends that they made lying dead by their side,
    the fear that they felt, the tears that they cried.
    Wear your poppy with pride.
    The men that returned no longer the same,
    suffered so much,invisible pain
    nightmares buried deep inside,
    no place to run no place to hide.
    Wear your poppy with pride.
    We must all remember year after year,
    the suffering, the death and the terrible fear.
    We must not forget,all those that died,
    so, wear your poppy with PRIDE.
    Written by a friend of mine this week.

  • I took the Wilfred Owen Association on tour last weekend, we followed his was from Redan Ridge in February 1917, up to Saint Quentin in the April, his hospitalisation at Gailly, his MC award at Joncourt in October 1918 and his untimely death, leading his men crossing the Sambre Canal on 4 November 1918. We were fortunate to have members of the Owen family along with us and they brought the German Bugle he 'souvineered' off the battlefields in 1917.

    He was an incredible poet, a very complex and insecure man but one who, despite questioning the way the war was being conducted at times, continued to serve for the love of his men.
  • More Sassoon:

    Everyone Sang
    BY SIEGFRIED SASSOON
    Everyone suddenly burst out singing;
    And I was filled with such delight
    As prisoned birds must find in freedom,
    Winging wildly across the white
    Orchards and dark-green fields; on - on - and out of sight.

    Everyone's voice was suddenly lifted;
    And beauty came like the setting sun:
    My heart was shaken with tears; and horror
    Drifted away ... O, but Everyone
    Was a bird; and the song was wordless; the singing will never be done.
  • I could be here for a while just pasting from T.S Eliot's "The Waste Land." Here are two of my favorites Great War-related pieces from it:

    I. Burial of the Dead
    "Unreal City,
    Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
    A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
    I had not thought death had undone so many.
    Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled,
    And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.
    Flowed up the hill and down King William Street,
    To where Saint Mary Woolnoth kept the hours
    With a dead sound on the final stroke of nine.
    There I saw one I knew, and stopped him, crying: “Stetson!
    “You who were with me in the ships at Mylae!
    “That corpse you planted last year in your garden,
    “Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year?
    “Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed?
    “Oh keep the Dog far hence, that’s friend to men,
    “Or with his nails he’ll dig it up again!
    “You! hypocrite lecteur!—mon semblable,—mon frère!"


    II. A Game of Chess
    “My nerves are bad tonight. Yes, bad. Stay with me.
    “Speak to me. Why do you never speak. Speak.
    “What are you thinking of? What thinking? What?
    “I never know what you are thinking. Think.”

    I think we are in rats’ alley
    Where the dead men lost their bones.

    “What is that noise?”
    The wind under the door.
    “What is that noise now? What is the wind doing?”
    Nothing again nothing.
    “Do
    “You know nothing? Do you see nothing? Do you remember
    “Nothing?”

    I remember
    Those are pearls that were his eyes.
    “Are you alive, or not? Is there nothing in your head?”
  • SE7toSG3 said:

    I took the Wilfred Owen Association on tour last weekend, we followed his was from Redan Ridge in February 1917, up to Saint Quentin in the April, his hospitalisation at Gailly, his MC award at Joncourt in October 1918 and his untimely death, leading his men crossing the Sambre Canal on 4 November 1918. We were fortunate to have members of the Owen family along with us and they brought the German Bugle he 'souvineered' off the battlefields in 1917.

    He was an incredible poet, a very complex and insecure man but one who, despite questioning the way the war was being conducted at times, continued to serve for the love of his men.

    His poetry is so much darker and unpolished in comparison to contemparies whuch is possibly what attracted me to him when we did poetry at school.
  • Thanks, Cordovan, I'd never read that one before. As an English teacher, I've often taught Owen's 'Disabled' to the kids and placed great emphasis on how the seriously depressed soldier in that poem, who loves football and young women, was probably only a couple of years older than they are.

    I think it is his longest poem. I know poetry is meant to /should have multiple interpretations but in the opening stanza is he comparing himself to a machine? Is he mentally broken or is he physically broken? Is he mixing up times in his life or is he reflecting whilst dying on a hospital bed?
  • Fantastic poems, so emotionally evoking.
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  • The General
    By Siegfried Sassoon

    “Good-morning, good-morning!” the General said
    When we met him last week on our way to the line.
    Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of 'em dead,
    And we're cursing his staff for incompetent swine.
    “He's a cheery old card,” grunted Harry to Jack
    As they slogged up to Arras with rifle and pack.

    But he did for them both by his plan of attack.
  • Enjoying this thread, I personally think Ww1 poetry, although I understand written by men in extraordinarily awful circumstances, is a bit naff. Looking forward to reading more and changing my mind.
  • Dulce et Decorum Est
    Wilfred Owen

    Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
    Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
    Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
    And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
    Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
    But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
    Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
    Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

    Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling,
    Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
    But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
    And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
    Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
    As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

    In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
    He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

    If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
    Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
    And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
    His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
    If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
    Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
    Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
    Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
    My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
    To children ardent for some desperate glory,
    The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
    Pro patria mori.
  • edited November 2018
    When I watched "oh what a lovely war" recently it was in light of the huge criticism of that film by revisionist historians like Sheffield, Corrigan and Harris.

    But what struck me wasn't to 60s lions lead by donkeys narrative but the songs.

    And those songs, many of which I heard my dad and the other men of the family sing when a child, are just as much poetry as Sassoon or Owen for me.

    If you want to find the Sergeant,
    I know where he is, I know where he is, I know where he is.
    If you want to find the Sergeant, I know where he is,
    He's lying on the canteen floor.
    I've seen him, I've seen him, lying on the canteen floor,
    I've seen him, I've seen him, lying on the canteen floor.
    If you want to find the Quartermaster
    I know where he is, I know where he is, I know where he is.
    If you want to find the Quartermaster I know where he is,
    He's miles and miles behind the line.
    I've seen him, I've seen him, miles and miles and miles behind the line.
    I've seen him, I've seen him, miles and miles and miles behind the line.
    If you want the Sergeant-major,
    I know where he is, I know where he is, I know where he is.
    If you want the Sergeant-major, I know where he is.
    He's tossing off the privates' rum.
    I've seen him, I've seen him, tossing off the privates' rum.
    I've seen him, I've seen him, tossing off the privates' rum.
    If you want the C.O.,
    I know where he is, I know where he is, I know where he is.
    If you want the C.O., I know where he is
    He is down in a deep dug-out,
    I've seen him, I've seen him, down in a deep dug-out,
    I've seen him, I've seen him, down in a deep dug-out.
    If you want to find the old battalion,
    I know where they are, I know where they are, I know where they are
    If you want to find the old battalion, I know where they are,
    They're hanging on the old barbed wire,
    I've seen 'em, I've seen 'em, hanging on the old barbed wire.
    I've seen 'em, I've seen 'em, hanging on the old barbed wire.



  • edited November 2018
    The 'old friend' who Owen addressed the end of Dulce et Decorum Est to was Jessie Pope, who wrote jingoistic poems encouraging young men to sign up. Her poem 'Who's for the Game?' was the type of jolly view of war that Owen and Sassoon were in direct contrast to, and is the complete opposite to the realistic perspective of war they conveyed.

    Worth looking at hers by way of contrast and to understand why they wanted to represent the reality of life at war to the people back home, who they felt had been sold an untruthful and romanticised version of the front line.

    Who's for the Game? Jessie Pope

    Who’s for the game, the biggest that’s played,
    The red crashing game of a fight?
    Who’ll grip and tackle the job unafraid?
    And who thinks he’d rather sit tight?

    Who’ll toe the line for the signal to ‘Go!’?
    Who’ll give his country a hand?
    Who wants a turn to himself in the show?
    And who wants a seat in the stand?

    Who knows it won’t be a picnic – not much-
    Yet eagerly shoulders a gun?
    Who would much rather come back with a crutch
    Than lie low and be out of the fun?

    Come along, lads –
    But you’ll come on all right –
    For there’s only one course to pursue,
    Your country is up to her neck in a fight,
    And she’s looking and calling for you.
  • From the perspective of those who had already fallen.

    In Flanders Fields, John McCrea - a Canadian physician.

    In Flanders fields the poppies blow
    Between the crosses, row on row,
    That mark our place; and in the sky
    The larks, still bravely singing, fly
    Scarce heard amid the guns below.

    We are the Dead. Short days ago
    We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
    Loved and were loved, and now we lie
    In Flanders fields.

    Take up our quarrel with the foe:
    To you from failing hands we throw
    The torch; be yours to hold it high.
    If ye break faith with us who die
    We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
    In Flanders fields.
  • I find Isaac Rosenberg quite difficult to read but as he was one of the few working class/non officer poets he deserves a mention.

    The Troop Ship
    BY ISAAC ROSENBERG

    Grotesque and queerly huddled
    Contortionists to twist
    The sleepy soul to a sleep,
    We lie all sorts of ways
    And cannot sleep.
    The wet wind is so cold,
    And the lurching men so careless,
    That, should you drop to a doze,
    Wind’s fumble or men’s feet
    Is on your face.
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