Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Was at the game today and thoroughly enjoyed meeting up with about 10 of my mates. Always the best part of the day by the way. As for the game itself the less I say the better. The first half we were rubbish. Had a short spell in the second half when we looked quite good but then conceded late on again. Probably a fair result and we will probably lose at Pompy as well. But if we can then win our two home games against Wimbledon and Gillingham we are back in contention. If I can remain positive while travelling home wet and cold I urge everyone else to keep believing.
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
The voice of reason.
Thank you, Scoham.
In your opinion.. which looks like a bad one.. cos we lost.. wins are more important than avoiding injury...
That’s not what many were saying when Robinson played Fosu in the Checkatrade and he got injured.
League wins are the most important thing.
Both momentum or keeping players fit can increase the chances of that. Bowyer chose the second option, another time he might choose the first.
The best choice could be either depending on the situation at the time.
Checkertrade trophy is different clearly, I would say I was busy if asked to do a job ffs.
You’re spot on league wins most important, which we didn’t do, hence why it’s turned out that bowyer has had a stinker last seven days.
Checkatrade could be a great chance to carry on the momentum though...
I think today was down to having to play a young midfield of inconsistent players more than what happened last weekend. Those four wouldn’t win any team promotion from this league. Good individually but Cullen especially makes a huge difference.
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
I guess it boils down to whether you enjoy the fa cup or not, and see it as an integral part of a season, which I very much do. And think a win in that cup would build confidence into the league.
I think it's overlooked that we were battered in the first half and lucky not to go in 2 or 3 down..
Much better second half obviously, and with 15 minutes to go they were hanging on, but then last 10 we seemed to lose concentration.
No idea what position Lapslie was playing. I think we were playing a flat 4-4-2 in the first half which, predictably, left us exposed and overrun in midfield.
I don't understand Stevenson being picked ahead of Sarr or even Dijksteel. It made sense if we started with or wanted to go to three at the back, but in a 4-4-2 it doesn't. Got up and back well but didn't do much in either area.
We had a week to prepare for this. 10 days if you don't count the FA Cup. And yet we looked tactically unprepared in the first half. It's a good reminder that Bowyer and Jackson are still quite new at this. They've obviously done very well this season, and we've gotten results when not playing well. But with a lot of games coming up over the next month, and with some important players injured, it's going to really test us.
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Doncaster fielded virtually the same side both against us on Tuesday and today at Bristol Rovers .. they won both games 2-0 and 4-0 .. several posters here mention we looked tired or ran out of steam .. playing games increases fitness and stamina .. Bowyer tried to mollycoddle our players and got it wrong .. now if we don't get promotion the season is another wasted one, out top players will want away, more fans will give CAFC games a miss, and no investor will want to fork out for an underperforming club
The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES .. and don't mention bad luck or wasted opportunity .. WE LOST BOTH GAMES and the management got it wrong
I don't understand Stevenson being picked ahead of Sarr or even Dijksteel. It made sense if we started with or wanted to go to three at the back, but in a 4-4-2 it doesn't. Got up and back well but didn't do much in either area.
Since Lewis Page got injured, we've had very little attacking width from LB ..... which is required in the diamond formation. Solly, playing LB, has done fairly well defensively but doesn't get forward - and anyway, is stronger all round in his own specialist RB position.
Sarr is solid enough at LB but again, doesn't use the flank to get forward or offer much of an outlet.
In Cup games, Stevenson has shown he can get up and down the line in the Lewis Page style. I don't doubt he was given a game today to see if he's sufficiently dependable if needed .... Bowyer will think best to throw him in now and see if he's ready, rather than on Boxing Day when there may be other injuries and no other choice.
We've had to go all season without proper LB cover. Page getting injured after only a few matches was almost inevitable. He's only 18, but Stevenson may at least give a decent option.
Any one able to analyse how Stevenson played today?
The amount of late goals we concede is frankly a joke.
Has Bowyer considered resting players?
Weve conceded once against Burton / Bristol Rovers and two against Blackpool since the beginning on November in the League - Not a bad return against five teams
I said late goals. Seems like we concede most of our goals towards the end of the game.
10 league goals conceded in the last 14 minutes of the game. That’s poor.
Is it that few... I thought I saw somewhere on SKY saying that us and Walsall had conceded about 15 late goals
People can say what they like but the facts speak for themselves
Blackpool had 9 players who started today starting in the FA Cup
We had 2.
If we played a full strength team last week would we have won today maybe not, would we have won last week again maybe not, but resting players last week did not help today either.
People have been saying all week 4 points from Blackpool and Portsmouth and Bowyers decision would be justified, well thats now impossible
Good luck with being a professional football manager, Paulie.
Bowyer said that he made his decisions on the fact that we had 2 tough away games in 3 days.
He's got 7 players injured plus those carrying niggles that he's worried might not be able to play 2 games in 3 days. If there was no Tuesday game this week, he may well have thought a little differently.
He further said that we're scheduled to play 8 games in 4 weeks and any further injuries will decimate what's left of his small squad.
Bowyer was looking at the big picture of how to manage his squad over the intense festive period. He won't be happy that we lost today, but it ain't the end of the world halfway through a 46 game season.
That is rubbish
If there was a midweek game last week it would make sense but there wasnt.
Players can play Saturday then Saturday they do it every week, every team have niggles, I am sure Donny do but they still put out a decent squad in both games.
I still want to know the point in putting a proper squad out in replay just to rest them for the 2nd round.
As I said if we played last Tuesday it would have made sense, but pro players can manage Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday if they cant then u need to look at your fitness coach
Can they play Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday - Tuesday EVERY week for the whole season if not injured? - Can they really?
But it wasnt was it
It was Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday
There was a 6 day rest in between games, Bowyer could have changed training if he was worried about fitness, given them an extra day offf.
Now we have lost there is nothing anyway can say that would make me think resting players last week was a good decision
So you keep saying....Over and over and over again!!! It’s purely hypothetical.
People can say what they like but the facts speak for themselves
Blackpool had 9 players who started today starting in the FA Cup
We had 2.
If we played a full strength team last week would we have won today maybe not, would we have won last week again maybe not, but resting players last week did not help today either.
People have been saying all week 4 points from Blackpool and Portsmouth and Bowyers decision would be justified, well thats now impossible
Good luck with being a professional football manager, Paulie.
Bowyer said that he made his decisions on the fact that we had 2 tough away games in 3 days.
He's got 7 players injured plus those carrying niggles that he's worried might not be able to play 2 games in 3 days. If there was no Tuesday game this week, he may well have thought a little differently.
He further said that we're scheduled to play 8 games in 4 weeks and any further injuries will decimate what's left of his small squad.
Bowyer was looking at the big picture of how to manage his squad over the intense festive period. He won't be happy that we lost today, but it ain't the end of the world halfway through a 46 game season.
That is rubbish
If there was a midweek game last week it would make sense but there wasnt.
Players can play Saturday then Saturday they do it every week, every team have niggles, I am sure Donny do but they still put out a decent squad in both games.
I still want to know the point in putting a proper squad out in replay just to rest them for the 2nd round.
As I said if we played last Tuesday it would have made sense, but pro players can manage Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday if they cant then u need to look at your fitness coach
Can they play Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday - Tuesday EVERY week for the whole season if not injured? - Can they really?
But it wasnt was it
It was Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday
There was a 6 day rest in between games, Bowyer could have changed training if he was worried about fitness, given them an extra day offf.
Now we have lost there is nothing anyway can say that would make me think resting players last week was a good decision
So you keep saying....Over and over and over again!!! It’s purely hypothetical.
Yeah your right it is hypothetical But what we know for certain is resting players didnt help because we lost anyway
JFC and now Cullen are huge misses, as to a lesser extent is Pratley.
Ward and Clarke also need for that bit of experience and guile.
Play-offs look like the best we can do right now but ever the optimist I say it's not yet half way through the season.
When you see those 5 players out, you wonder how many teams could cope with that loss of quality, add to that Vetokele and Page, you realise how well Bow has done.
I still think we will miss automatics but be in the play offs, would be great to beat Sunderland again! (Ever the optimist)
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Doncaster fielded virtually the same side both against us on Tuesday and today at Bristol Rovers .. they won both games 2-0 and 4-0 .. several posters here mention we looked tired or ran out of steam .. playing games increases fitness and stamina .. Bowyer tried to mollycoddle our players and got it wrong .. now if we don't get promotion the season is another wasted one, out top players will want away, more fans will give CAFC games a miss, and no investor will want to fork out for an underperforming club
The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES .. and don't mention bad luck or wasted opportunity .. WE LOST BOTH GAMES and the management got it wrong
Even in the Checkatrade? Even if players aren’t ready to play 90 mins? Shall we throw Clarke in even if it’s too early for him?
People can say what they like but the facts speak for themselves
Blackpool had 9 players who started today starting in the FA Cup
We had 2.
If we played a full strength team last week would we have won today maybe not, would we have won last week again maybe not, but resting players last week did not help today either.
People have been saying all week 4 points from Blackpool and Portsmouth and Bowyers decision would be justified, well thats now impossible
Good luck with being a professional football manager, Paulie.
Bowyer said that he made his decisions on the fact that we had 2 tough away games in 3 days.
He's got 7 players injured plus those carrying niggles that he's worried might not be able to play 2 games in 3 days. If there was no Tuesday game this week, he may well have thought a little differently.
He further said that we're scheduled to play 8 games in 4 weeks and any further injuries will decimate what's left of his small squad.
Bowyer was looking at the big picture of how to manage his squad over the intense festive period. He won't be happy that we lost today, but it ain't the end of the world halfway through a 46 game season.
That is rubbish
If there was a midweek game last week it would make sense but there wasnt.
Players can play Saturday then Saturday they do it every week, every team have niggles, I am sure Donny do but they still put out a decent squad in both games.
I still want to know the point in putting a proper squad out in replay just to rest them for the 2nd round.
As I said if we played last Tuesday it would have made sense, but pro players can manage Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday if they cant then u need to look at your fitness coach
Can they play Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday - Tuesday EVERY week for the whole season if not injured? - Can they really?
But it wasnt was it
It was Saturday-Saturday-Tuesday
There was a 6 day rest in between games, Bowyer could have changed training if he was worried about fitness, given them an extra day offf.
Now we have lost there is nothing anyway can say that would make me think resting players last week was a good decision
So you keep saying....Over and over and over again!!! It’s purely hypothetical.
Yeah your right it is hypothetical But what we know for certain is resting players didnt help because we lost anyway
We don’t know that, we don’t know what difference playing them in an extra game would have made. We could have played them and had a bigger defeat.
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Doncaster fielded virtually the same side both against us on Tuesday and today at Bristol Rovers .. they won both games 2-0 and 4-0 .. several posters here mention we looked tired or ran out of steam .. playing games increases fitness and stamina .. Bowyer tried to mollycoddle our players and got it wrong .. now if we don't get promotion the season is another wasted one, out top players will want away, more fans will give CAFC games a miss, and no investor will want to fork out for an underperforming club
The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES .. and don't mention bad luck or wasted opportunity .. WE LOST BOTH GAMES and the management got it wrong
Even in the Checkatrade? Even if players aren’t ready to play 90 mins? Shall we throw Clarke in even if it’s too early for him?
if players are not (to use your quote) ready to play 90 minutes, then including them can't constitute the strongest team can it .. as for the checkatrade, the competition regulations partly decree that a certain number of players who played in the previous league game should play in the next trophy game .. but I'll concede that in this competition there should be room for bringing in reserve players or those recovering from injury
Leicester v Spurs tonight. Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen. Pochettino, what are you doing man ? Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
Not really the same is it?
1. Spurs' have a tough saturday night away game followed by a tuesday away game in Spain. That is hardly comparable to our saturday home game, then a saturday away game. 2. He has named a full strength side apart from Kane and Eriksen. We had a reserve side. 3. He has them both on the bench. We had 3 kids, a postman and the bloke from the corner shop.
Leicester v Spurs tonight. Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen. Pochettino, what are you doing man ? Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
sarcasm does you no credit .. Poch has 'left out' 2 normal first choice players, not 8 or 9 as did Bowyer on Tuesday .. and you're talking before the Spurs results are known .. we know the results in our situation, i.e. LOST TWO
Leicester v Spurs tonight. Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen. Pochettino, what are you doing man ? Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
sarcasm does you no credit .. Poch has 'left out' 2 normal first choice players, not 8 or 9 as did Bowyer on Tuesday .. and you're talking before the Spurs results are known .. we know the results in our situation, i.e. LOST TWO
I don't understand Stevenson being picked ahead of Sarr or even Dijksteel. It made sense if we started with or wanted to go to three at the back, but in a 4-4-2 it doesn't. Got up and back well but didn't do much in either area.
Since Lewis Page got injured, we've had very little attacking width from LB ..... which is required in the diamond formation. Solly, playing LB, has done fairly well defensively but doesn't get forward - and anyway, is stronger all round in his own specialist RB position.
Sarr is solid enough at LB but again, doesn't use the flank to get forward or offer much of an outlet.
In Cup games, Stevenson has shown he can get up and down the line in the Lewis Page style. I don't doubt he was given a game today to see if he's sufficiently dependable if needed .... Bowyer will think best to throw him in now and see if he's ready, rather than on Boxing Day when there may be other injuries and no other choice.
We've had to go all season without proper LB cover. Page getting injured after only a few matches was almost inevitable. He's only 18, but Stevenson may at least give a decent option.
Any one able to analyse how Stevenson played today?
He did ok defensively. Very little going forward though which is what you're asking.
Leicester v Spurs tonight. Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen. Pochettino, what are you doing man ? Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
sarcasm does you no credit .. Poch has 'left out' 2 normal first choice players, not 8 or 9 as did Bowyer on Tuesday .. and you're talking before the Spurs results are kSpurs or CAFC ?nown .. we know the results in our situation, i.e. LOST TWO
But you said always play your strongest team.
you've lost me .. I haven't a clue what you're driving at .. Spurs or CAFC ? .. But I suspect you're just arguing for the sake of it
I don't understand Stevenson being picked ahead of Sarr or even Dijksteel. It made sense if we started with or wanted to go to three at the back, but in a 4-4-2 it doesn't. Got up and back well but didn't do much in either area.
Since Lewis Page got injured, we've had very little attacking width from LB ..... which is required in the diamond formation. Solly, playing LB, has done fairly well defensively but doesn't get forward - and anyway, is stronger all round in his own specialist RB position.
Sarr is solid enough at LB but again, doesn't use the flank to get forward or offer much of an outlet.
In Cup games, Stevenson has shown he can get up and down the line in the Lewis Page style. I don't doubt he was given a game today to see if he's sufficiently dependable if needed .... Bowyer will think best to throw him in now and see if he's ready, rather than on Boxing Day when there may be other injuries and no other choice.
We've had to go all season without proper LB cover. Page getting injured after only a few matches was almost inevitable. He's only 18, but Stevenson may at least give a decent option.
Any one able to analyse how Stevenson played today?
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Didn't give a great account himself. Got caught out of position a number of times and gave the ball away too often. As an inexperienced youngster he certainly wasnt the worst performer on the pitch, nowhere near it, but he's far from an adequate replacement for Page
Rained most of the way up on my 90 minute drive and stopped half an hour before kick off. One change from the last league game at Burton with Stevenson in place of Sarr at LB.
The home side came out of the blocks brightly with the wind at their backs and showed why they were knocking on the door of the play off places. Several chances went begging for them and it seemed only a matter of time before they would score as we struggled to get a foothold in the game. Blackpool seemed to open us up at will and Dodoo was causing problems however it was Gnanduillet who broke the deadlock after the dangerous wide man Feeney put in a fierce cross which Steer could only parry and the loose ball was buried. 0-1 deservedly to the Tangerines after a quarter of an hour.
The reverse seemed to spur us into some forward play at last but our main attacking threat came from corners which failed to produce an equaliser. Blackpool however had further chances and would have been out of sight had Steer not been on his mettle clawing one effort from on / very close to over the line. We managed to get to half time just the one goal down for time to regroup and give it a go with the wind at our backs.
During half time the skies opened up and a few wags were calling for the game to be abandoned however the pitch held up well all in all and we pushed forward with more purpose equalising ten minutes after the restart with Grant cutting in from the right and an almost identical set up to Feeney's assist found Aribo on hand to slot home for 1-1. Not satisfied with that we went for the jugular and were unlucky not to score on 75 mins after good work and Grant's cross come shot just avoided Taylor shaving the far post. The travelling faithful were now in good voice urging their heroes on as Blackpool tired. Marshall entered the fray for Fosu and gave a good account of himself carrying on his good work from last week. Reeves was also put on a short while after for Lapslie but disappointed with a couple of free kicks that failed to clear the first man arrrgh!
The game then became very open in the last quarter and having failed to press home our early half advantage, we fell to the sucker punch in the last five minutes with Pearce appearing to be the wrong side of sub Delfonso as he ran onto a through ball and slotted home the winner inside of the advancing Steer's left hand post
A better second half showing but if I'm honest a point would have been more than acceptable in atrocious second half wet and windy conditions coming in off the Irish sea. That's three visits to Bloomfield Road for me now in the last 10 months, one postponement and two defeats but at least today's performance was not as abject as the rearranged game.
Rained most of the way up on my 90 minute drive and stopped half an hour before kick off. one change from the last league game at Burton with Stevenson in place of Sarr at LB.
The home side came out of the blocks brightly with the wind at their backs and showed why they were knocking on the door of the play off places. Several chances went begging for them and it seemed only a matter of time before they would score as we struggled to get a foothold in the game. Blackpool seemed to open us up at will and Dodoo was causing problems however it was Gnanduillet who broke the deadlock after the dangerous wide man Feeney put in a fierce cross which Steer could only Parry and the loose ball was buried 0-1 Deservedly to the Tangerines after a quarter of an hour.
The reverse seemed to spur us into some forward play at last but our main attacking threat came from corners which failed to produce an equaliser. Blackpool however had further chances and would have been out of sight had Steer not been on his mettle clawing one effort from on / very close to over the line. We managed to get to half time just the one goal down for time to regroup and give it a go with the wind at our backs.
During half time the skies opened up and a few wags were calling for the game to be abandoned however the pitch held up well all in all and we pushed forward with m ore purpose equalising ten minutes after the restart with Grant cutting in from the right almost identical set up to Feeney's assist and Aribo was on hand to slot home for 1-1. Not satisfied with that we went for the jugular and were unlucky not to score on 75 mins after good work and his cross come shot just avoided Taylor and just shaved the far post. The travelling faithful were now in good voice urging their heroes on as Blackpool tired. Marshall entered the fray for Fosu and gave a good account of himself carrying on his good work from last week. Reeves was also put on a short while after for Lapslie but disappointed with a couple of free kicks that failed to clear the first man arrrgh!
The game then became very open in the last quarter and having failed to press home our early half advantage. we fell to the sucker punch in the last five minutes with Pearce appearing to be the wrong side of sub Delfonso as he slotted home the winner into the advancing Steers left hand post
A better second half showing but if I'm honest a point would have been more than acceptable in atrocious second half wet and windy conditions coming in of the Irish sea. That's three visits to Bloomfield Road for me now in the last 10 months, one postponement and two defeats but at least today's performance was not as abject as the rearranged game.
For everyone’s sanity, I think we should all drop the FA Cup angle now. It’s done. Move on.
I’m sorry I understand what you are saying and not here to argue with you. But the manager thought it was ok to make All them changes because we won’t win the cup. Then puts out a strong team and we lose well Doncaster go and win. I be honest I’ve lost all interest in Charlton I used to wake up early every Saturday buzzing travel between 3 and 4 hrs to get to THE VALLEY. I m gutted we lost. But I think all this takeover bxxxxxxxks lasting ages as made me fall out of love with the team I once loved with a passion. I hope one day soon that passion following Charlton home and away comes back. I really do think we could have beat Preston in the next round of the cup. ACTUALLY ROLAND YOUVE MADE ME FEEL LOKE THIS NOW FXXXXOFF AND SELL THE CLUB
Rained most of the way up on my 90 minute drive and stopped half an hour before kick off. one change from the last league game at Burton with Stevenson in place of Sarr at LB.
The home side came out of the blocks brightly with the wind at their backs and showed why they were knocking on the door of the play off places. Several chances went begging for them and it seemed only a matter of time before they would score as we struggled to get a foothold in the game. Blackpool seemed to open us up at will and Dodoo was causing problems however it was Gnanduillet who broke the deadlock after the dangerous wide man Feeney put in a fierce cross which Steer could only Parry and the loose ball was buried 0-1 Deservedly to the Tangerines after a quarter of an hour.
The reverse seemed to spur us into some forward play at last but our main attacking threat came from corners which failed to produce an equaliser. Blackpool however had further chances and would have been out of sight had Steer not been on his mettle clawing one effort from on / very close to over the line. We managed to get to half time just the one goal down for time to regroup and give it a go with the wind at our backs.
During half time the skies opened up and a few wags were calling for the game to be abandoned however the pitch held up well all in all and we pushed forward with m ore purpose equalising ten minutes after the restart with Grant cutting in from the right almost identical set up to Feeney's assist and Aribo was on hand to slot home for 1-1. Not satisfied with that we went for the jugular and were unlucky not to score on 75 mins after good work and his cross come shot just avoided Taylor and just shaved the far post. The travelling faithful were now in good voice urging their heroes on as Blackpool tired. Marshall entered the fray for Fosu and gave a good account of himself carrying on his good work from last week. Reeves was also put on a short while after for Lapslie but disappointed with a couple of free kicks that failed to clear the first man arrrgh!
The game then became very open in the last quarter and having failed to press home our early half advantage. we fell to the sucker punch in the last five minutes with Pearce appearing to be the wrong side of sub Delfonso as he slotted home the winner into the advancing Steers left hand post
A better second half showing but if I'm honest a point would have been more than acceptable in atrocious second half wet and windy conditions coming in of the Irish sea. That's three visits to Bloomfield Road for me now in the last 10 months, one postponement and two defeats but at least today's performance was not as abject as the rearranged game.
A very bold writeup thanks.
The mods appreciate it which saves them from trawling the thread to highlight the eyewitness on the spot accounts
Leicester v Spurs tonight. Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen. Pochettino, what are you doing man ? Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
sarcasm does you no credit .. Poch has 'left out' 2 normal first choice players, not 8 or 9 as did Bowyer on Tuesday .. and you're talking before the Spurs results are kSpurs or CAFC ?nown .. we know the results in our situation, i.e. LOST TWO
But you said always play your strongest team.
you've lost me .. I haven't a clue what you're driving at .. Spurs or CAFC ? .. But I suspect you're just arguing for the sake of it
You said
“The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES”
If that’s the case Kane should be starting for Spurs.
In reality there are times when you should play your strongest team, but sometimes it’s not worth the risk.
Today we lost a close game by 1 goal while missing various first team players through injury. With such a young midfield I’m not surprised they struggled at times - I kind of expected it after the same happened at Burton.
Having to play that midfield had a far bigger impact on the result than the Doncaster line up and result.
Those not liking the “I told you so” posts regarding the cup forfeit.
It is completely relevant to this match, he’s learned the hard way that you keep the momentum going, rather than extended rest.
We beat donny and Taylor and Fosu score their tails are up for the next game, winning breeds winning.
Not changed my opinion bowyer still doing a brilliant job, he’s just had an absolute avoidable mare last 7 days.
It’s not that simple is it? If it was managers would never rest players when on a good run. It was more about reducing the risk of further injuries.
The midfield today we started with today isn’t good enough for a promotion challenge. That was the main reason we lost.
Today’s line up couldn’t be stronger by playing an extra cup game. It could only get weaker had we picked up more injuries.
Cullen, Reeves and Ward all start if fully fit, it was far from our first choice midfield.
I disagree I think it is that simple, results business n all that.
For the record had we won today I’d of praised bowyers decision.
So if we had lost the cup game with our strongest available team and Taylor got injured for the rest of the season would that be the right decision?
If it was such an easy decision he’ll never rest players in a cup game again. I bet he does again next season.
Players get injuries mate, but wins should be a bigger priority. Doncaster proved bowyer wrong, two wins from two, two strong teams played the stats don’t lie.
Wins in the league are Bowyers priority. He made the choice to avoid the risk of picking up more injuries in a cup game.
We’re not Doncaster, maybe they’ve had less injury problems this season. They’re probably not having to play a midfield with an average age of about 20.
Going round in circles.
WE DIDNT WIN.
As I said, if we did, I would take your point, it’s a results business, wins are the thing that decides if something was a good or bad decision. What’s not to understand here.
I completely disagree with the lack of involvement of any fully fit first team players last week, but still think we’re slightly missing Bowyer’s point.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Ward didn't play last Saturday, but presumably picked up an injury in training during the week instead. Injuries happen, you can't wrap every player in cotton wool all the time
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5 - 4 (first 10mins)
4 - 1
3 - 3
3 - 1
2 - 0
4 - 1
2 - 1
2 - 4
7 - 9 (last 10mins)
TOTAL 32-24
Over half of what we concede are in the last 20mins.
He would argue that his decision was correct as we’ve come out of the cup match with no injuries to first team players, which will leave the squad in a better position to push for promotion. Personally, I don’t agree with it, especially as I can see the season petering out and some of us possibly wishing we’d given it a go in the cup.
Always the best part of the day by the way.
As for the game itself the less I say the better.
The first half we were rubbish.
Had a short spell in the second half when we looked quite good but then conceded late on again.
Probably a fair result and we will probably lose at Pompy as well.
But if we can then win our two home games against Wimbledon and Gillingham we are back in contention.
If I can remain positive while travelling home wet and cold I urge everyone else to keep believing.
In the meantime.
Just sell the club and FUCK OFF
Losing 0-1, they equalised in the 91st minute. And then snatched a 94th minute winner from the spot.
PS: I hope haven't spoiled it for our Match of the Day viewers.
Much better second half obviously, and with 15 minutes to go they were hanging on, but then last 10 we seemed to lose concentration.
No idea what position Lapslie was playing. I think we were playing a flat 4-4-2 in the first half which, predictably, left us exposed and overrun in midfield.
I don't understand Stevenson being picked ahead of Sarr or even Dijksteel. It made sense if we started with or wanted to go to three at the back, but in a 4-4-2 it doesn't. Got up and back well but didn't do much in either area.
We had a week to prepare for this. 10 days if you don't count the FA Cup. And yet we looked tactically unprepared in the first half. It's a good reminder that Bowyer and Jackson are still quite new at this. They've obviously done very well this season, and we've gotten results when not playing well. But with a lot of games coming up over the next month, and with some important players injured, it's going to really test us.
Bowyer tried to mollycoddle our players and got it wrong .. now if we don't get promotion the season is another wasted one, out top players will want away, more fans will give CAFC games a miss, and no investor will want to fork out for an underperforming club
The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES .. and don't mention bad luck or wasted opportunity .. WE LOST BOTH GAMES and the management got it wrong
For as many last minute winners as we've nicked (Burton), we've also conceded a lot of sloppy goals late door (today).
Solly, playing LB, has done fairly well defensively but doesn't get forward - and anyway, is stronger all round in his own specialist RB position.
Sarr is solid enough at LB but again, doesn't use the flank to get forward or offer much of an outlet.
In Cup games, Stevenson has shown he can get up and down the line in the Lewis Page style. I don't doubt he was given a game today to see if he's sufficiently dependable if needed .... Bowyer will think best to throw him in now and see if he's ready, rather than on Boxing Day when there may be other injuries and no other choice.
We've had to go all season without proper LB cover. Page getting injured after only a few matches was almost inevitable. He's only 18, but Stevenson may at least give a decent option.
Any one able to analyse how Stevenson played today?
It’s purely hypothetical.
But what we know for certain is resting players didnt help because we lost anyway
I still think we will miss automatics but be in the play offs, would be great to beat Sunderland again! (Ever the optimist)
Barcelona v Spurs on Tuesday.
Spurs leave out Kane & Eriksen.
Pochettino, what are you doing man ?
Have you not listened to Paulie & Lincs ? What a bell.
Anyway, if Spurs win both games he was right and if they lose both he's wrong. There are definitely no others factors at all.
Wibble.
1. Spurs' have a tough saturday night away game followed by a tuesday away game in Spain. That is hardly comparable to our saturday home game, then a saturday away game.
2. He has named a full strength side apart from Kane and Eriksen. We had a reserve side.
3. He has them both on the bench. We had 3 kids, a postman and the bloke from the corner shop.
Rained most of the way up on my 90 minute drive and stopped half an hour before kick off. One change from the last league game at Burton with Stevenson in place of Sarr at LB.
The home side came out of the blocks brightly with the wind at their backs and showed why they were knocking on the door of the play off places. Several chances went begging for them and it seemed only a matter of time before they would score as we struggled to get a foothold in the game. Blackpool seemed to open us up at will and Dodoo was causing problems however it was Gnanduillet who broke the deadlock after the dangerous wide man Feeney put in a fierce cross which Steer could only parry and the loose ball was buried. 0-1 deservedly to the Tangerines after a quarter of an hour.
The reverse seemed to spur us into some forward play at last but our main attacking threat came from corners which failed to produce an equaliser. Blackpool however had further chances and would have been out of sight had Steer not been on his mettle clawing one effort from on / very close to over the line. We managed to get to half time just the one goal down for time to regroup and give it a go with the wind at our backs.
During half time the skies opened up and a few wags were calling for the game to be abandoned however the pitch held up well all in all and we pushed forward with more purpose equalising ten minutes after the restart with Grant cutting in from the right and an almost identical set up to Feeney's assist found Aribo on hand to slot home for 1-1. Not satisfied with that we went for the jugular and were unlucky not to score on 75 mins after good work and Grant's cross come shot just avoided Taylor shaving the far post. The travelling faithful were now in good voice urging their heroes on as Blackpool tired. Marshall entered the fray for Fosu and gave a good account of himself carrying on his good work from last week. Reeves was also put on a short while after for Lapslie but disappointed with a couple of free kicks that failed to clear the first man arrrgh!
The game then became very open in the last quarter and having failed to press home our early half advantage, we fell to the sucker punch in the last five minutes with Pearce appearing to be the wrong side of sub Delfonso as he ran onto a through ball and slotted home the winner inside of the advancing Steer's left hand post
A better second half showing but if I'm honest a point would have been more than acceptable in atrocious second half wet and windy conditions coming in off the Irish sea. That's three visits to Bloomfield Road for me now in the last 10 months, one postponement and two defeats but at least today's performance was not as abject as the rearranged game.
“The moral of the story ? .. PLAY YOUR STRONGEST AVAILABLE TEAM AT ALL TIMES”
If that’s the case Kane should be starting for Spurs.
In reality there are times when you should play your strongest team, but sometimes it’s not worth the risk.
Today we lost a close game by 1 goal while missing various first team players through injury. With such a young midfield I’m not surprised they struggled at times - I kind of expected it after the same happened at Burton.
Having to play that midfield had a far bigger impact on the result than the Doncaster line up and result.