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Taylor/Grant

How long will we keep the dynamic duo up front?
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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,443
    Till uncle Roland sells the fuckers!
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Till 9th January
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,225
    Huge improvement in Karlan since he left the Ahearne in Crawley. Shirt must be lighter.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593
    Credit to Grant he really has knuckled down and made himself one of the first names on the team sheet and we must get him tied down.

    I dont know what has clicked for him but he is a different player this season, weather the loan to Crawley, having a manager who believes in him playing him as a striker or the summer events being a wake up call but whatever it is is credit to him for working hard and making it happen.

    Candidate for POTY
  • Great name for a solicitors....
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,787
    Taylor and Grant seem like really good mates aswell. Definitely helps the partnership
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    But, can we keep them?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,122
    Big difference with Grant is that when Fosu threaded that terrific ball through, you expected him to score. That’s not always been the case in the past
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,948
    Taylor takes a lot of credit I think for helping Grant

    hope we can keep them both and more importantly keep them fit

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  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,262
    I suspect that the real difference for Grant is that he is simply older, stronger and more experienced. He was thrust unexpectedly and far too soon into the first team as a newly turned seventeen year old because of injuries to more experienced players and has had to cope with multiple changes of managers and systems. Even as a eighteen year old in a struggling team people were writing him off. His loan at Crawley, away from the carping and criticism has obviously served him well.

  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,415
    Mametz said:

    I suspect that the real difference for Grant is that he is simply older, stronger and more experienced. He was thrust unexpectedly and far too soon into the first team as a newly turned seventeen year old because of injuries to more experienced players and has had to cope with multiple changes of managers and systems. Even as a eighteen year old in a struggling team people were writing him off. His loan at Crawley, away from the carping and criticism has obviously served him well.

    One of the very few things I would give Robinson credit for. Sending him to Crawley under the guidance of Harry Kewell who played up front on a regular basis, was what the lad needed.

    Even the incident during the summer has not been seen to effect his good form for us this season
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,301
    edited January 2019
    shirty5 said:
    Fantastic record. I really can see both getting to 20 in the league this season.

    For Grant specifically, if you look at his form from the loan to Crawley and carried on to where we are now, he has scored 21 goals in his last 39 league appearances.

    For Taylor, he scored 14 league goals last season for AFC Wimbledon, in 46 games - 18 goals in all competitions. So far he has scored 11 in 25 for us in the league - 14 in 26 in all competitions.

    Both have been brilliant. The numbers suggest it, their performances suggest it. We must keep both as long as possible because they could be a huge, key reason for us to get promoted this season. Not too many teams will have two strikers with around 20 goals in the league.
  • Taylor has an excellent all round game - still amazed he's never played at a higher level.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Big difference with Grant is that when Fosu threaded that terrific ball through, you expected him to score. That’s not always been the case in the past

    yeah absolutely. Actually thought the finish was fairly poor but it hit the net, that's the main thing.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited January 2019
    Anyone still prefer Magennis??!!
    To get money for Magennis and get Taylor in for free was a very shrewd bit of work.
  • Anyone still prefer Magennis??!!

    To Ajose yes
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,385
    Thought the Hales/Flanagan partnership would have been more than 39. Would like to see what the Hales/Horsfield partnership produced as they must have been next in the list.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,716

    How long will we keep the dynamic duo up front?

    Till Roland sells them / they get injured.

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  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,811
    edited January 2019
    pretty impressive from.mid fiftys to ealry 60s. must have been a great time to be watching Charlton. which year did.we fall out of the top flight ?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,716

    pretty impressive from.mid fiftys to ealry 60s. must have been a great time to be watching Charlton. which year did.we fall out of the top flight ?

    1956/57
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,879
    LenGlover said:

    pretty impressive from.mid fiftys to ealry 60s. must have been a great time to be watching Charlton. which year did.we fall out of the top flight ?

    1956/57
    And I was born in 55.
    Bin a glory hunter ever since
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230
    edited January 2019
    Two things with Karlan.

    1) His up turn in form started before he went to Crawley, he'd started to get some opportunities from the bench here and scored a couple of goals and you could see his confidence building. Whenever I'd seen him play before that, he'd always looked lively and never hid, but the confidence wasn't there. That Crawley move cemented the confidence but I always think it's a bit overlooked that he was heading in the right direction before he left.

    2) He's getting games in his proper position - he's not a winger, he's a striker and it's no shock he looks better in that position.

    I'd be happy with 35 goals between the two of them, but they seem to have such a good understanding and the competition of outscoring each other seems to be motivating them too so 40 plus does not seem unrealistic at all.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,872
    The more you think about it, Gobbo’s tactical masterstroke of playing one up front with that one being Magennis doesn’t look all that clever.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,458
    edited January 2019

    Big difference with Grant is that when Fosu threaded that terrific ball through, you expected him to score. That’s not always been the case in the past

    More significantly I thought was how he out muscled the defender to get on the ball. Has added that to his pace.

    Plus finally playing regularly and up front , not wide.
  • Grant was put into the team to young so many people judged him to quick. But going out on loan to what's the best thing that could happen to him
  • Grant was put into the team to young so many people judged him to quick. But going out on loan to what's the best thing that could happen to him

    I must have been the only one gutted when he went on Loan last season, thought he gave us a different option which we didnt have, PACE UP FRONT!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,458
    Grant had already started to score goals BEFORE going to Crawley.

    Don't doubt the loan did him good but we'll never know if he could have done as well playing in a front two for us.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,230

    Grant had already started to score goals BEFORE going to Crawley.

    Don't doubt the loan did him good but we'll never know if he could have done as well playing in a front two for us.

    Yes, I suspect if he;d stayed and played regularly up front he;d have got goals for us too - maybe not as many, but what difference it might have made to have him available for those play-off games instead of Ajose or experimenting with Kaikai.