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Plymouth v Charlton 2019 post-match views

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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Pity has to go up Taylor. Without his goals we'd be in the bottom 6...
    So in other words we are bottom 6 next season?
  • I am hoping to get Barnsley in the play offs - Sad for them as they were the best team in the division for a while, but it has all caught up with them. You could see the writing on the wall in their televised games even if they won on and drew one of them. Hard to look beyond Sunderland getting second.
    Lost their top scorer outside of the transfer window

    Luckily we had both Grant and Taylor so could just about afford to lose one of them without a replacement
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    Scoham said:
    Good to see Jonny “no end product” Williams get an assist.
    I think that was Williams best game for us since his debut.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited April 2019
    Watched on the brilliant moody stream.

    If your team is under the cosh first half, and you've already made one flying tip over, and been steady so far, then you face a crucial penalty, and save it, not the other guy missing, but a fantastic full length save to keep your team in it, and in fact shape the turning point of the match, and then play well, steadily and error free to keep a clean sheet second half as your team ends up cruising to victory, then you are the blimmin' man of the match!
    Take a bow Dillon Phillips, you were our best player and anybody who disagrees with me is wrong.
    Plymouth were actually a pretty good side in their approach play, we were, let us say, competitive in the first half, in terms of yellow cards anyway, and it was a clear penalty no argument at all. Then of course if you miss a pen promising to take you into half time with a lead, you get what you deserve, a great headed goal from the wonderful Lyle Taylor who from the penalty on was about as good as it gets. He might have scored  again second half with a close effort, and we all enjoyed the overhead attempt too.
    That was in a second half when we sucked the very marrow out of Plymouth's bones with an early dustbin goal put on a plate for IGOOOOOOOR after a fantastic run from Williams.
    We played some great stuff second half, not like one of those magicians that can make an Elephant disappear and Ten Sherman Tanks appear in it's place, but like one of those green baize close up merchants that even when you watch like a hawk you can't see how it's done. Our close interplay, and mutual trust triangles and combinations bewildered Plymouth at times because in the second half we were a clear class above.
    You have to think about the game as a whole, but every single player bar Phillips improved in the second half and I would put that down to whatever Bowyer and Jackson said at half-time.
    An absolutely fantastic second half and result, let there be no doubt about that.

    Edit, just seen the save, he went full length but didn't take his feet with him, still a great and deliberate save.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    When you are an oldie like me, you have seen things align before. If we go up and we can keep most of this team together and improve in two or three places, we have a chance of going up again. The main ingredient is the manager, but when all the ingredients come together it is a real opportunity. Sadly our owner is mad, and won't have any idea what an opportunity he has. He has the money to make a calculated gamble on success and the riches that come with it, but not the sanity!!!! 
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited April 2019
    That was a strange game, listened to @KillersBeard and watched on Dave's stream (I even managed to synchronise sight and sound!!). 1st half we didnt seem to get going and, as has been said, the ref was doing all he could to dish out yellow cards left right and centre, I was fearful that a 2nd yellow was coming for one of them. Penalty looked at bit soft, but again I think the ref was trying hard to give them everything he could, Dillon pulls off a great save and it seemed to galvanize the team and within minutes we were ahead, I have to say against the run of play.
    Second half was a completely different game, we doubled our lead early doors and from then on looked under no threat whatsoever. A good 3 points that surely secures our Play-Off spot, but we still have a faint outside chance of the autos, if we can keep this run going and Barnsley and Sunderland drop some points. 
    2 big games coming up.....6 points will do very nicely.
    Well played today lads on what really was a game of 2 halves.
     
  • Zero chance at second.

    Zero chance at second.
    Bore off mate, your so negative. 

    This team and management  is pulling up trees for the fans. 
  • Hopefully all the Phillips doubters have been silenced. Always rated him and pleased to see him doing well.

    Good result. Pity Pompey and Sunderland won.
    I'm still pissed off steer took his place and kept it for so long being no better in my opinion. 
    Dillon done fck all wrong to be dropped in the first place. 
    Fair play to Bowyer he learnt from a mistake. 



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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    Pity has to go up Taylor. Without his goals we'd be in the bottom 6...
    What ? 
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,020
    Hasnt played enough to be a contendor compared to Lyle or Naby for me - Its becoming really tight though as we've a few like Cullen and Bielik playing themselves into form
    How many did Poyet play?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    When you are an oldie like me, you have seen things align before. If we go up and we can keep most of this team together and improve in two or three places, we have a chance of going up again. The main ingredient is the manager, but when all the ingredients come together it is a real opportunity. Sadly our owner is mad, and won't have any idea what an opportunity he has. He has the money to make a calculated gamble on success and the riches that come with it, but not the sanity!!!! 
    Muttley, I think you may be getting a little carried away my friend :smile:
  • Hopefully all the Phillips doubters have been silenced. Always rated him and pleased to see him doing well.

    Good result. Pity Pompey and Sunderland won.
    I'm still pissed off steer took his place and kept it for so long being no better in my opinion. 
    Dillon done fck all wrong to be dropped in the first place. 
    Fair play to Bowyer he learnt from a mistake. 


    To be fair to Steer he's currently No1 at Villa and they're in the Championship playoffs. Both keepers are having a good season.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited April 2019
    When you are an oldie like me, you have seen things align before. If we go up and we can keep most of this team together and improve in two or three places, we have a chance of going up again. The main ingredient is the manager, but when all the ingredients come together it is a real opportunity. Sadly our owner is mad, and won't have any idea what an opportunity he has. He has the money to make a calculated gamble on success and the riches that come with it, but not the sanity!!!! 
    If we still had KAG, I would think we are the faves to make it through the playoffs. I feel now it is about 1/4 or maybe 1/3. The club would be worth an extra £10M one league up and he reduced his chances, just for £1.5M? And now risking losing Bowyer. I for the life of me cannot see how he made so much money in business with such a poor understanding of value investing.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Some people can't sniff these opportunities but I think there is one there. It doesn't matter as there is no way the club will be sold anytime soon because the mad owner wants too much, and there is no way he will take a punt on Bowyer and the lads because he is an idiot. He doesn't even seem able to be able to offer him a decent contract FFS!
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Just seen the save - well done, Dillon!

    Never a good idea to give the opposition a penalty, but in this case the confidence boost Dillon must have gained by saving this one under match conditions could be invaluable come the play-offs. 

    If it comes down to a penalty shoot-out, we won't be debating his distribution at that point.  We'll just be thanking our lucky stars if he can again demonstrate his worth as a shot-stopper.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    glad Bowyer went public essentially with his rejection of the offer. Shows he knows he has options.

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Hopefully all the Phillips doubters have been silenced. Always rated him and pleased to see him doing well.

    Good result. Pity Pompey and Sunderland won.
    I'm still pissed off steer took his place and kept it for so long being no better in my opinion. 
    Dillon done fck all wrong to be dropped in the first place. 
    Fair play to Bowyer he learnt from a mistake. 


    The reason Phillips was replaced by Steer was because he was better with his feet.
    Ironically Jed last game at the valley he had a nightmare kicking but we kept a clean sheet.

    For a League 1 club we are lucky to have had Amos, Steer and now Phillips who had all been so consistent.
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 5,987
     The game turns on the penalty the man of the match Dylan Phillips saved unbelievably well. Up until then Plymouth were the better team and should have been ahead. And Charltons midfield were fairly anonymous  for that first half  until Taylors goal which with the penalty saved was the turning point of the whole game. Lyle Taylor who apparently had been having the Mickey taken out of him for his hair colouring gave it to the  Plymouth fans fairly large but deservedly so(So a Plymouth fan told me after the game).  The second-half was dominated by Charlton keeping possession and passing the ball well and the own goal was totally unexpected but joyously received by the fans as it was there in front of us. After that what with the singing and the  Great display by the team it was a very enjoyable afternoon. The Charlton fans will be going home happy after that and Plymouth is a great place to spend a night which is what we are doing. Roll on Luton but Charlton should not be too cocky because that first half performance was poor.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,277
    Steer saved a penalty against the massives today too!
  • Hasnt played enough to be a contendor compared to Lyle or Naby for me - Its becoming really tight though as we've a few like Cullen and Bielik playing themselves into form
    How many did Poyet play?
    Exactly... Im one who felt Lawrie Wilson should have won that year purely on that basis
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    Be good if we can get 4th.

    Even I am prepared to concede that we are now in the play-offs! It's all about where we finish to give ourselves the best possible chance.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,456
    edited April 2019
    LenGlover said:
    Be good if we can get 4th.

    Even I am prepared to concede that we are now in the play-offs! It's all about where we finish to give ourselves the best possible chance.
    To be fair our last two Play-Off failures have been when we've finished 4th and 6th so dont think it really matters if we have home advantage in the second leg or not

    Priority has to be the fact that we remain the form team and go into the Play-Offs with a ton of confidence - Luton is now the hardest game between now and then and think apart from that one we can easily get maximum points from the rest
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,761
    Pity has to go up Taylor. Without his goals we'd be in the bottom 6...
    And if my auntie had balls she’d be my uncle . Good to see you’re keeping up the persona of being the most miserable poster on CL Golfie ! 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,897
    Aribo was very good today as was Cullen and Williams 2nd half.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,648
    Pity has to go up Taylor. Without his goals we'd be in the bottom 6...
    What ? 
    Sorry....that was a typo. Should have said POTY. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,648
    Pity has to go up Taylor. Without his goals we'd be in the bottom 6...
    And if my auntie had balls she’d be my uncle . Good to see you’re keeping up the persona of being the most miserable poster on CL Golfie ! 
    Not miserable today.  we get a win & I also get the winner in the GN. Only £5 but a wins a win....