I know loads of people who have bought season tickets having previously eschewed them, all on the basis of the Wembley win. Given nobody knows who is going to be at the club next season, this is rather premature in my opinion. I have always maintained a total home boycott is the only legal option left to show our displeasure at the RD regime. Although the demos had an initial impact, they soon became rather half-hearted and tired. At the end of the day, RD will do what he wants to do. He is obviously not the full ticket mentally, but has the money to fuck us over out of spite. For me, the home boycott continues until he goes.
As i've always said, the protest at 'home' cause him no discomfort whatsoever, all they do is serve the purpose of whipping up the frenzy of the CL cult. He doesnt give a toss. The protests in ST have clearly had a big impact with RD, as proved by his outbursts after said protests, and made him feel very uncomfortable. But, you have to remember, after all the protesting,he still owns us. He still wants his big wedge for the club, and no amount of protesting has got him to budge.
In some respects , i have a (little) bit of admiration for him and KM, after what has been thrown at them.
Then the next thing to do would perhaps be to up the level of protests or take them to somewhere not previously visited in Belgium.
I can't remember if previous protests have ever taken place at his companies offices or even in his street/outside his house?
Yes they have.
One of the problems is that the majority of fans are pretty fickle. If we win a couple of games then most fans turn against protesters. This isn’t just a recent phenonemon; after a couple of wins by Karl Robinson’s side in the autumn of 2017 they were plenty of people on CL saying that the protests ought to stop because the necessary lessons had been learnt. One poster even predicted that promotion was was a near certainty and we would be challenging for promotion to the Premiership by the end of the 18/19 season.
Bowyer has been a revelation. Achieving promotion under this ownership in his first full season was remarkable but even his hands are firmly tied by the ownership of the club.
I broke my boycott to go to Wembley because of the lure of that game was just too strong. However, I will not return to the Valley until Roland goes. I support any protest against him either here or more particularly in Belgium. I am not over bothered by their legality either.
It was tempting and what I needed to buy was Bowyer being signed up. I didn't see any reason why that couldn't happen within the two week window at League One prices! Other than our owner being our owner of course. Something is clearly up - he may still sign, but there is a lot of work that needs doing for next season, and this should be out of the way already!
What is happening now only goes to show that Bowyer is a once in a generation opportunity. He has achieved in spite of Roland, not because of him. You just can't go out and get a manager like him. That we have a complete idiot owning us who can not see the opportunity (to him as much as anything else) for what it is tells the story of Charlton over the last decade or so.
Looks like a trip to Belgium is required. And before anybody says protests are a waste of time - they are only a waste of time IMO due to people like you. Either go on them and try to do something or don't but if you don't just shut up and don't be an apologist for this plank Duchatelet.
During the play offs I sort of expected all this and decided just to enjoy the few weeks for what they were, and I did. It was a great diversion albeit a short one.
As i've always said, the protest at 'home' cause him no discomfort whatsoever, all they do is serve the purpose of whipping up the frenzy of the CL cult. He doesnt give a toss. The protests in ST have clearly had a big impact with RD, as proved by his outbursts after said protests, and made him feel very uncomfortable. But, you have to remember, after all the protesting,he still owns us. He still wants his big wedge for the club, and no amount of protesting has got him to budge.
In some respects , i have a (little) bit of admiration for him and KM, after what has been thrown at them.
If it all goes tits up & by July 1st LB has walked & we haven't signed any new players then I would advocate (and happy to participate) the following....
Direct action & contact in Belgium with RD. Even tell the press & his puppy dog Mr White what we are going to do. Maximum exposure.
Home games. Protests by throwing pigs & taxis onto the pitch has had its day. It now needs to ramped up. Not to annoy RD as he wont be watching, but to annoy the EFL & get them to act. Stop a game from going ahead completely. Super glue ourselves to the gates & entrances so players & officials cant get in. Look what the climate change people did in C London. Not once but every home game. As from the start of the season CAFC doesn't play at The Valley.
Roland featured in a film about two small political parties made by his buddy (and possible minority shareholder in Staprix) Jan Bucquoy. The film was a comparison of two minor political parties, Vivant and Tarte. We all know about Roland's party, but Tarte was the satirical creation of Belgian entarteur Noel Godin, famous for launching a custard pie at Bill Gates. The Wikipedia article on Godin claims "his goal has long been to "entarter" as many people like Gates as possible - people he feels are particularly self-important and lacking a sense of humor (sic)."
Football fans are fickle and ours are no different, Blackpool and Coventry fans appear to be the only hard line protesters. As said in one of the pre-play off final threads a Blackpool fan was surprised that we had sold as many Wembley tickets as he thought we were protesting.
We had 3 x big televised games watched by media and fans of other clubs to show what we think of RD yet not one sign of a Black & White item, not a banner nor a protest song sung.
When things are on the up all is forgotten, when things take a downward turn talk of action re-surfaces again.
RD will sell and move on when it suits him, not because we are throwing plastic toys on the pitch or sitting in/outside The Valley. What he does along the way to harm our club has long slipped out of our hands so we may as well buckle up for the ride ahead.
Quite right, every problem is best solved by inaction, looking the other way, and pretending it's not happening.
Protest in The Grand Place in Brussels...would certainly make the news in Belgium.
I was wondering if they had an equivalent of Trafalgar Square.
Yes The Grand Place is that equivalent....might be worth putting a Charlton shirt on Little Julien....the pissing boy....or vinegar pisser if your Roland.
I went to Brussels last Christmas and it is feasible to put a protest shirt on that pissing statue. It is often dressed by people. Of course it would be taken off quickly but not before a lot of photos can be taken.
If it all goes tits up & by July 1st LB has walked & we haven't signed any new players then I would advocate (and happy to participate) the following....
Direct action & contact in Belgium with RD. Even tell the press & his puppy dog Mr White what we are going to do. Maximum exposure.
Home games. Protests by throwing pigs & taxis onto the pitch has had its day. It now needs to ramped up. Not to annoy RD as he wont be watching, but to annoy the EFL & get them to act. Stop a game from going ahead completely. Super glue ourselves to the gates & entrances so players & officials cant get in. Look what the climate change people did in C London. Not once but every home game. As from the start of the season CAFC doesn't play at The Valley.
Personally I've never really understood what people expect the EFL to do? The club is a private business owned by Roland - they can't force him to sell. All they can do is punish the fans (by forcing us to play behind closed doors), apply points deductions, or kick us out of the league. Is that what we want?
How many times has Bowyer made it clear that he wants to stay and continue managing Charlton?
Then he lets it be known that he received a rather confusing contract offer via email (or something) and said that he didn't know quite what to make of it.
Roland, you are either in or you are out.
If LB leaves the club. Then you are solely responsible for it.
If your ownership of Charlton continues to be historically disgraceful....then you need to be completely exposed and psychologically trodden on.
I hope you are reading this LDT, because it will cost RD less money to give Lee Bowyer a decent contract, than to not give Lee a decent contract !
I'm quite certain that it will cost RD more than £100Kpa if Lee isn't signed up this week !
Even if you look at gate money alone, a decrease of 2,000 per game, call it 50,000 in aggregate over the season at say £10 = £500,000, that's without additional stewarding and everything else that may come on top.
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I have always maintained a total home boycott is the only legal option left to show our displeasure at the RD regime. Although the demos had an initial impact, they soon became rather half-hearted and tired.
At the end of the day, RD will do what he wants to do. He is obviously not the full ticket mentally, but has the money to fuck us over out of spite.
For me, the home boycott continues until he goes.
One of the problems is that the majority of fans are pretty fickle. If we win a couple of games then most fans turn against protesters. This isn’t just a recent phenonemon; after a couple of wins by Karl Robinson’s side in the autumn of 2017 they were plenty of people on CL saying that the protests ought to stop because the necessary lessons had been learnt. One poster even predicted that promotion was was a near certainty and we would be challenging for promotion to the Premiership by the end of the 18/19 season.
Bowyer has been a revelation. Achieving promotion under this ownership in his first full season was remarkable but even his hands are firmly tied by the ownership of the club.
I broke my boycott to go to Wembley because of the lure of that game was just too strong. However, I will not return to the Valley until Roland goes. I support any protest against him either here or more particularly in Belgium. I am not over bothered by their legality either.
Watch out, we might get what we're after
Two Shats: he’s strange, there’s no-one stranger
He’s no ordinary guy
Roland is a louse!
To the tune of Burning Down The House by Talking Heads.
Looks like a trip to Belgium is required. And before anybody says protests are a waste of time - they are only a waste of time IMO due to people like you. Either go on them and try to do something or don't but if you don't just shut up and don't be an apologist for this plank Duchatelet.
During the play offs I sort of expected all this and decided just to enjoy the few weeks for what they were, and I did. It was a great diversion albeit a short one.
Direct action & contact in Belgium with RD. Even tell the press & his puppy dog Mr White what we are going to do. Maximum exposure.
Home games. Protests by throwing pigs & taxis onto the pitch has had its day. It now needs to ramped up. Not to annoy RD as he wont be watching, but to annoy the EFL & get them to act. Stop a game from going ahead completely. Super glue ourselves to the gates & entrances so players & officials cant get in. Look what the climate change people did in C London. Not once but every home game. As from the start of the season CAFC doesn't play at The Valley.
I'll leave that thought there.
The man is a disgrace.
Then he lets it be known that he received a rather confusing contract offer via email (or something) and said that he didn't know quite what to make of it.
Roland, you are either in or you are out.
If LB leaves the club. Then you are solely responsible for it.
If your ownership of Charlton continues to be historically disgraceful....then you need to be completely exposed and psychologically trodden on.
Will they still bitch about CARD?
I'm quite certain that it will cost RD more than £100Kpa if Lee isn't signed up this week !
Even if you look at gate money alone, a decrease of 2,000 per game, call it 50,000 in aggregate over the season at say £10 = £500,000, that's without additional stewarding and everything else that may come on top.