Chuks is such a frustrating player. He can look like a top ball carrying attacking midfielder one game and the next he's a liability whose first touch is reminiscent of Jason Euell on a bad day. The man's an enigma.
I think part of the issue is we have never seen Chuks have a consistent run of games so he's probably not had his confidence levels up. If he can get fit and stay fit he will be such an asset in this division. The way he brought that ball down in the build up to the goal was absolute class.
Jason Euell on a bad day was a decent player, playing at the highest level.
I agree with all that but he also had an awful first touch. Hence the old jokes about Euell's second touch tending to be a tackle.
Second touch for a while used to end up in the back of the net
Back in the day there was a bloke on netaddicks (user name charltonfan I think) who slaughtered Euell on a regular basis despite the fact he was our top scorer for 3 consecutive seasons I think it was in the Prem.
Jason Euell on a bad day was a decent player, playing at the highest level.
I agree with all that but he also had an awful first touch. Hence the old jokes about Euell's second touch tending to be a tackle.
Second touch for a while used to end up in the back of the net
Back in the day there was a bloke on netaddicks (user name charltonfan I think) who slaughtered Euell on a regular basis despite the fact he was our top scorer for 3 consecutive seasons I think it was in the Prem.
Some of our fans have weird views in my opinion.
Maybe it's a case of a fan not being impressed with a new player the first couple of times they see him - and that colours their view of him forever, prejudiced to every slight error but blind to his attributes and actual match performance.
You see it all the time on the Players Marks thread lol
It's plain to see that Chuks has made a qualitative leap in his level of performance. Full marks to him and/or the the coaching staff for making that happen. If he can maintain consistency and score regularly he will be mustard. (Edit: And stay fit!) I feel a hero worship coming on
Jason Euell on a bad day was a decent player, playing at the highest level.
I agree with all that but he also had an awful first touch. Hence the old jokes about Euell's second touch tending to be a tackle.
Second touch for a while used to end up in the back of the net
Back in the day there was a bloke on netaddicks (user name charltonfan I think) who slaughtered Euell on a regular basis despite the fact he was our top scorer for 3 consecutive seasons I think it was in the Prem.
Some of our fans have weird views in my opinion.
Aneke will win me over completely if he stays fit for any length of time; he’s clearly got some ability.
Euell wasn’t one for the purists but he scored a lot of goals. In my view, better from midfield; touch was poor but he had a decent engine. Great man too; he’s been super loyal through hard times.
Euell was fantastic when he played in a midfield 3 with Parker and I think Jensen. Phenomenal engine and a better tackler and ball carrier than he was given credit for. The only player we've had since with comparable a skill set was Joe Aribo.
Geezer has all the tools. I know we are yet to consistently see it at Charlton, but if you look at the YouTube clips of his time at Crewe and MK Dons, he scores all types of goals, he's not rapid but he's got a bit of pace, he can go past players, he's strong as ox, tall and imposing, holds it up, lays it off well, and can improvise on the ball. He really should be playing at a higher level, but for whatever reason his career hasn't taken of like it should. If we can get him a) fit and b) confident then we'll have areal player on our hands, but they are not inconsequential 'ifs'.
Also, if we're doing player comparisons, I'd say he reminds of a plus size Morts. Different position and physique but he's got that same languid relaxed style that masks a surprising amount of skill and speed and he's just on a different level when he playing well.
Geezer has all the tools. I know we are yet to consistently see it at Charlton, but if you look at the YouTube clips of his time at Crewe and MK Dons, he scores all types of goals, he's not rapid but he's got a bit of pace, he can go past players, he's strong as ox, tall and imposing, holds it up, lays it off well, and can improvise on the ball. He really should be playing at a higher level, but for whatever reason his career hasn't taken of like it should. If we can get him a) fit and b) confident then we'll have areal player on our hands, but they are not inconsequential 'ifs'.
Also, if we're doing player comparisons, I'd say he reminds of a plus size Morts. Different position and physique but he's got that same languid relaxed style that masks a surprising amount of skill and speed and he's just on a different level when he playing well.
You were doing so well until you committed the blasphemy of comparing him with the sublime Morts.
I like Chuks and I think/hope he can do really well for us and become a bit of a legend in his own right. But he's no Morts.
Geezer has all the tools. I know we are yet to consistently see it at Charlton, but if you look at the YouTube clips of his time at Crewe and MK Dons, he scores all types of goals, he's not rapid but he's got a bit of pace, he can go past players, he's strong as ox, tall and imposing, holds it up, lays it off well, and can improvise on the ball. He really should be playing at a higher level, but for whatever reason his career hasn't taken of like it should. If we can get him a) fit and b) confident then we'll have areal player on our hands, but they are not inconsequential 'ifs'.
Also, if we're doing player comparisons, I'd say he reminds of a plus size Morts. Different position and physique but he's got that same languid relaxed style that masks a surprising amount of skill and speed and he's just on a different level when he playing well.
You were doing so well until you committed the blasphemy of comparing him with the sublime Morts.
I like Chuks and I think/hope he can do really well for us and become a bit of a legend in his own right. But he's no Morts.
Not as good no, but Morts had that same lazy, relaxed style. He looked slower and less skillful than he was then he’d just drift past players seemingly by magic. No flashy tricks or step overs, just quick feet that meant he always seemed to be able to nip the ball away before the defender got their toe on it. Chuks does similar.
There we go then, Bowyer saw Chuks as a 10 but will now be using him as a 9. So he’ll be an out and out striker and not dropping deep or playing at the tip of the diamond.
“Chuks has always been a 10 and wants to score in and around the box along with linking it up. But he’s not a 10 no more – he is going to be a nine.“
There we go then, Bowyer saw Chuks as a 10 but will now be using him as a 9. So he’ll be an out and out striker and not dropping deep or playing at the tip of the diamond.
“Chuks has always been a 10 and wants to score in and around the box along with linking it up. But he’s not a 10 no more – he is going to be a nine.“
I still think he plays more like a 10 though, someone surging into the box, rather than the target man already there
There we go then, Bowyer saw Chuks as a 10 but will now be using him as a 9. So he’ll be an out and out striker and not dropping deep or playing at the tip of the diamond.
“Chuks has always been a 10 and wants to score in and around the box along with linking it up. But he’s not a 10 no more – he is going to be a nine.“
Good comments from Bows. As discussed above, Chuks is built for the number 9 role really, especially one up top as he has the attributes to keep a couple of centre backs busy on his own, as long as the work rate and mentality are right from him.
The excellent thing about his goal was that he started the move as well. Many players we have had down the years, and probably Chuks himself at times, would've brought that ball down, laid it off, and then stood back and watched the rest of the move happen ahead of them. What Chuks did that is so encouraging, and why he was rewarded with a goal, is continue his run forwards so he was in the box, relatively unmarked, at just the right time. All our forwards and midfielders need to do more of this. Instead of making a contribution and then thinking "well that's my bit done" they need to think "that was great, but now where do I need to be to get that ball back and make another contribution?".
Aneke is the number 9 by default because of other strikers leaving; and Ronnie Swartz not arriving. Always felt that should be his position. Perm any Two from Aneke, Bogle, Washington and the striker that they are working on from abroad. Smyth can cover the wide positions with Bogle who will play as a wide man or central depending on the fitness of Chuks.
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I agree with all that but he also had an awful first touch. Hence the old jokes about Euell's second touch tending to be a tackle.
Some of our fans have weird views in my opinion.
Maybe it's a case of a fan not being impressed with a new player the first couple of times they see him - and that colours their view of him forever, prejudiced to every slight error but blind to his attributes and actual match performance.
You see it all the time on the Players Marks thread lol
I mean, Chuks?!!! WTF!
Full marks to him and/or the the coaching staff for making that happen.
If he can maintain consistency and score regularly he will be mustard. (Edit: And stay fit!)
I feel a hero worship coming on
ability.
Euell wasn’t one for the purists but he scored a lot of goals. In my view, better from midfield; touch was poor but he had a decent engine. Great man too; he’s been super loyal through hard times.
The last few games have given me hope that he can be an important player for us this season.
I like Chuks and I think/hope he can do really well for us and become a bit of a legend in his own right. But he's no Morts.
There we go then, Bowyer saw Chuks as a 10 but will now be using him as a 9. So he’ll be an out and out striker and not dropping deep or playing at the tip of the diamond.
“Chuks has always been a 10 and wants to score in and around the box along with linking it up. But he’s not a 10 no more – he is going to be a nine.“
Always felt that should be his position.
Perm any Two from Aneke, Bogle, Washington and the striker that they are working on from abroad.
Smyth can cover the wide positions with Bogle who will play as a wide man or central depending on the fitness of Chuks.