Until he actually costs us games then keep doing your thing Dill.
The clean sheet doesn't really show whether a keeper has played well or not though. On Saturday it was defensive blocks which preserved the clean sheet, rather than outstanding keeping, which is reflected in the scores people are giving the players
He pulled off two brilliant saves though, he played his part. Luck is part of the game and if your luck is In then it keeps the confidence. He wasn't 10/10 of course, but he is a keeper from league 1 who is essentially learning his trade and hasn't cost us a goal.
He has a lot to learn, but gambling on Amos over him is pointless.
I thought Pearce and Lockyer were joint motm yesterday, if either one of them had average games yesterday we would have conceded 3 I feel and it wouldn't have been all Dills fault.
He pulled off two brilliant saves though, he played his part. Luck is part of the game and if your luck is In then it keeps the confidence. He wasn't 10/10 of course, but he is a keeper from league 1 who is essentially learning his trade and hasn't cost us a goal.
He has a lot to learn, but gambling on Amos over him is pointless.
I thought Pearce and Lockyer were joint motm yesterday, if either one of them had average games yesterday we would have conceded 3 I feel and it wouldn't have been all Dills fault.
This.
I think he made one really good save and a couple of decent ones. Just because he kept a clean sheet doesn't mean he had a great game, in the same way conceding 4 doesn't mean you had a bad one. But it does mean he didn't make a mistake that was punished. He has to keep learning to become the keeper he has the potential to be, but right now he fully deserves his place as Number 1 and I don't get why fans are on his back because he's not the complete package. All our players have areas of their game they could improve on.
Could command the area far far better for me! Every time a cross comes into the box he is rooted to his goal line!
Total bollox.....an idiotic post of the week contender.
It’s all about opinions. When under pressure of a striker jumping with him he looks weak to me. Poor Andy Marshall on the touch line. I noticed a couple of times yesterday where Phillips’s distribution wasn’t great and Bowyer turned to look at Marshall and gave him a look.
Agreed. But many more than "a couple of times" - virtually all of Phillips' kicks went straight to the opposition; such a frustrating waste of possession. Admittedly, not helped by lack of challenge by our strikers, wilting in the second half.
Phillips spilled an easy catch on Saturday and generally doesn't inspire much confidence. I wonder what went wrong with Amos? Why the alarming decline in his previously high standard?
Could command the area far far better for me! Every time a cross comes into the box he is rooted to his goal line!
Total bollox.....an idiotic post of the week contender.
It’s all about opinions. When under pressure of a striker jumping with him he looks weak to me. Poor Andy Marshall on the touch line. I noticed a couple of times yesterday where Phillips’s distribution wasn’t great and Bowyer turned to look at Marshall and gave him a look.
Agreed. But many more than "a couple of times" - virtually all of Phillips' kicks went straight to the opposition; such a frustrating waste of possession. Admittedly, not helped by lack of challenge by our strikers, wilting in the second half.
Phillips spilled an easy catch on Saturday and generally doesn't inspire much confidence. I wonder what went wrong with Amos? Why the alarming decline in his previously high standard?
I remember Dean Kiely being criticised for poor distribution Thank god we saw the back of him. He was rubbish.
I don't think Dillon should be dropped but to me this is a completely irrelevant argument. When we had Deano in goal we were playing a totally different type of football.
He pulled off two brilliant saves though, he played his part. Luck is part of the game and if your luck is In then it keeps the confidence. He wasn't 10/10 of course, but he is a keeper from league 1 who is essentially learning his trade and hasn't cost us a goal.
He has a lot to learn, but gambling on Amos over him is pointless.
I thought Pearce and Lockyer were joint motm yesterday, if either one of them had average games yesterday we would have conceded 3 I feel and it wouldn't have been all Dills fault.
This.
I think he made one really good save and a couple of decent ones. Just because he kept a clean sheet doesn't mean he had a great game, in the way same conceding 4 doesn't mean you had a bad one. But it does mean he didn't make a mistake that was unpunished. He has to keep learning to become the keeper he has the potential to be, but right now he fully deserves his place as Number 1 and I don't get why fans are on his back because he's not the complete package. All our players have areas of their game they could improve on.
odd because if one dared to criticise Phillips on here a few months ago, it was virtually a hanging offence .. at best tar n feathering one .. must be the non CL hoi polloi who are giving him grief
Could command the area far far better for me! Every time a cross comes into the box he is rooted to his goal line!
Total bollox.....an idiotic post of the week contender.
It’s all about opinions. When under pressure of a striker jumping with him he looks weak to me. Poor Andy Marshall on the touch line. I noticed a couple of times yesterday where Phillips’s distribution wasn’t great and Bowyer turned to look at Marshall and gave him a look.
Agreed. But many more than "a couple of times" - virtually all of Phillips' kicks went straight to the opposition; such a frustrating waste of possession. Admittedly, not helped by lack of challenge by our strikers, wilting in the second half.
Phillips spilled an easy catch on Saturday and generally doesn't inspire much confidence. I wonder what went wrong with Amos? Why the alarming decline in his previously high standard?
Could command the area far far better for me! Every time a cross comes into the box he is rooted to his goal line!
Total bollox.....an idiotic post of the week contender.
It’s all about opinions. When under pressure of a striker jumping with him he looks weak to me. Poor Andy Marshall on the touch line. I noticed a couple of times yesterday where Phillips’s distribution wasn’t great and Bowyer turned to look at Marshall and gave him a look.
Agreed. But many more than "a couple of times" - virtually all of Phillips' kicks went straight to the opposition; such a frustrating waste of possession. Admittedly, not helped by lack of challenge by our strikers, wilting in the second half.
Phillips spilled an easy catch on Saturday and generally doesn't inspire much confidence. I wonder what went wrong with Amos? Why the alarming decline in his previously high standard?
a season on the Millwall bench
Nice to think he might have made deliberate errors while on loan at Millwall. Agent Amos.
He pulled off two brilliant saves though, he played his part. Luck is part of the game and if your luck is In then it keeps the confidence. He wasn't 10/10 of course, but he is a keeper from league 1 who is essentially learning his trade and hasn't cost us a goal.
He has a lot to learn, but gambling on Amos over him is pointless.
I thought Pearce and Lockyer were joint motm yesterday, if either one of them had average games yesterday we would have conceded 3 I feel and it wouldn't have been all Dills fault.
This.
I think he made one really good save and a couple of decent ones. Just because he kept a clean sheet doesn't mean he had a great game, in the way same conceding 4 doesn't mean you had a bad one. But it does mean he didn't make a mistake that was unpunished. He has to keep learning to become the keeper he has the potential to be, but right now he fully deserves his place as Number 1 and I don't get why fans are on his back because he's not the complete package. All our players have areas of their game they could improve on.
odd because if one dared to criticise Phillips on here a few months ago, it was virtually a hanging offence .. at best tar n feathering one .. must be the non CL hoi polloi who are giving him grief
Some fans have always enjoyed criticising him in an OTT manner - seems like they were keen for him to fail.
On the players marks thread I gave Dillon Phillips 3.5 . That seemed to a number of people to be egregiously low . It was not .. I saw the error at Wembley and the own goal was down to him as far as I am concerned . Yes the back pass was over hit and aimed at the goal but I think that he should have dealt with it and he didn’t . Fortunately that error did not cost us overall in the match but it could have done . It’s fair to say that the jury has always been out on him for me since that mistake . I have seen him have some really good games that warrant a much higher score than 3.5 . I regret that Saturday was not one of them . The things that concerned me in particular were the catch that he should have made when under no pressure at all from any Brentford players and that somehow bounced of his stomach / chest and that one of the centre backs had to desperately hook into touch . The second one was when he again under no pressure decided to punch the ball away rather than catch it . On both occasions it was absolutely imperative that the dominance that had been building over time from Brentford was relieved and that the defence got some respite from waves of attacks that they were never going to repel for vast parts of the game but which somehow they did . There were a number of other smaller errors that could have led to a goal eg in the first half when the Brentford centre forward got in behind the defence and skied one over the bar . There was also a deflection behind for a corner from Pearce when Phillips should have claimed the ball . He parried two shots into the path of a Brentford forward who fortunately could not convert . His kicking was not great and his throw outs were not accurate . Overall he would have scored 5 accounting also for two very good saves that he made . The first was to tip the ball around the post from a fierce shot in the first half and the second at the death to deny a goal that was followed up by blocks from Hemed and Field . Ironically that last save was also parried into the path of a Forward but it was such a rasping drive and he did extremely well to get down to it at his near post you can hardly blame him for that .The two absolute bowlers that I mention warrant a reduction from 5 to 3.5 . I had thought that 4 might be a reasonable mark but they were such terrible unforced mistakes , both of them , and heart in mouth moments that a reduction of 1.5 marks was warranted .What I particularly do not like about things that he does is that he seems very regularly to want to punch the ball a short distance away inviting another attack rather than respite and possession . I cannot understand why a goal keeper would not want to catch the ball when under no pressure at all rather than punch it . If some one can explain that to me then I would be really interested to know what the thinking is behind that . The other thing that I very much don’t like that he does is the “ Hollywood scurry “ . . By that I mean trying to look very good flying left or right at ground level in extremely dramatic fashion for what should be a routine save or what he appears to have evaluated as a shot with at least a 50/ 50 chance of going in and that he seemingly doesn’t want to look bad for letting in . He should get down to make the save irrespective of what it will look like on TV . All I am interested in is has he saved it not the drama of the effort to do so .if he elects to punch the ball away then I want to see him do that only when under pressure from an opposing player and I want to see him smash that player too . The referee if he is doing his job will give a foul on him as the keeper if his jump upwards is impeded . Refs don’t always get it right but 9 times out of 10 they do for any sort of physical challenge on the goal keeper and he has got to trust in that . If in the process of clattering the opponent it roughs the opponent up then great as it nullifies the ability of the player and will make him less likely to barge Phillips in future giving him more chances of catching the ball and not parrying it away . I think that he is hesitant in dealing with crosses and that needs to improve too . He is a young player developing all the time and has a chance to prove himself in the Championship having done really well at the end of last season and having contributed well to our promotion. Any criticism of him feels like it is taboo and can never ever be raised . I don’t understand why that is either . He is our player and he is a professional footballer who has to be able to deal with comments about his short comings . There is no agenda or vendetta or malice against him just statements of fact . I hope that he continues to develop and improve just as he has been doing for the last year . He has a way to go still and the signs are that he could get to where he should be as a Championship goalie based on aspects of his game that are good eg shot stopping and when he gets his kicking right his general distribution his throw outs being quite good and accurate usually . If you had a dog and it constantly pooed in your house then you would want to train it not to do so wouldn’t you ? You would not just let it continue to do so without trying to improve the situation . Doesn’t mean that you don’t care about the dog any less . The body language from Bowyer after the stomach bounce howler was not however very promising but he should not be dropped based on one poor game alone .
On the players marks thread I gave Dillon Phillips 3.5 . That seemed to a number of people to be egregiously low . It was not .. I saw the error at Wembley and the own goal was down to him as far as I am concerned . Yes the back pass was over hit and aimed at the goal but I think that he should have dealt with it and he didn’t . Fortunately that error did not cost us overall in the match but it could have done . It’s fair to say that the jury has always been out on him for me since that mistake . I have seen him have some really good games that warrant a much higher score than 3.5 . I regret that Saturday was not one of them . The things that concerned me in particular were the catch that he should have made when under no pressure at all from any Brentford players and that somehow bounced of his stomach / chest and that one of the centre backs had to desperately hook into touch . The second one was when he again under no pressure decided to punch the ball away rather than catch it . On both occasions it was absolutely imperative that the dominance that had been building over time from Brentford was relieved and that the defence got some respite from waves of attacks that they were never going to repel for vast parts of the game but which somehow they did . There were a number of other smaller errors that could have led to a goal eg in the first half when the Brentford centre forward got in behind the defence and skied one over the bar . There was also a deflection behind for a corner from Pearce when Phillips should have claimed the ball . He parried two shots into the path of a Brentford forward who fortunately could not convert . His kicking was not great and his throw outs were not accurate . Overall he would have scored 5 accounting also for two very good saves that he made . The first was to tip the ball around the post from a fierce shot in the first half and the second at the death to deny a goal that was followed up by blocks from Hemed and Field . Ironically that last save was also parried into the path of a Forward but it was such a rasping drive and he did extremely well to get down to it at his near post you can hardly blame him for that .The two absolute bowlers that I mention warrant a reduction from 5 to 3.5 . I had thought that 4 might be a reasonable mark but they were such terrible unforced mistakes , both of them , and heart in mouth moments that a reduction of 1.5 marks was warranted .What I particularly do not like about things that he does is that he seems very regularly to want to punch the ball a short distance away inviting another attack rather than respite and possession . I cannot understand why a goal keeper would not want to catch the ball when under no pressure at all rather than punch it . If some one can explain that to me then I would be really interested to know what the thinking is behind that . The other thing that I very much don’t like that he does is the “ Hollywood scurry “ . . By that I mean trying to look very good flying left or right at ground level in extremely dramatic fashion for what should be a routine save or what he appears to have evaluated as a shot with at least a 50/ 50 chance of going in and that he seemingly doesn’t want to look bad for letting in . He should get down to make the save irrespective of what it will look like on TV . All I am interested in is has he saved it not the drama of the effort to do so .if he elects to punch the ball away then I want to see him do that only when under pressure from an opposing player and I want to see him smash that player too . The referee if he is doing his job will give a foul on him as the keeper if his jump upwards is impeded . Refs don’t always get it right but 9 times out of 10 they do for any sort of physical challenge on the goal keeper and he has got to trust in that . If in the process of clattering the opponent it roughs the opponent up then great as it nullifies the ability of the player and will make him less likely to barge Phillips in future giving him more chances of catching the ball and not parrying it away . I think that he is hesitant in dealing with crosses and that needs to improve too . He is a young player developing all the time and has a chance to prove himself in the Championship having done really well at the end of last season and having contributed well to our promotion. Any criticism of him feels like it is taboo and can never ever be raised . I don’t understand why that is either . He is our player and he is a professional footballer who has to be able to deal with comments about his short comings . There is no agenda or vendetta or malice against him just statements of fact . I hope that he continues to develop and improve just as he has been doing for the last year . He has a way to go still and the signs are that he could get to where he should be as a Championship goalie based on aspects of his game that are good eg shot stopping and when he gets his kicking right his general distribution his throw outs being quite good and accurate usually . If you had a dog and it constantly pooed in your house then you would want to train it not to do so wouldn’t you ? You would not just let it continue to do so without trying to improve the situation . Doesn’t mean that you don’t care about the dog any less . The body language from Bowyer after the stomach bounce howler was not however very promising but he should not be dropped based on one poor game alone .
The reaction from Bowyer that you mention, that I didn't see, is quite normal when a player makes a mistake. It is in the moment though.
It was an unbelievable mistake but he's hardly the only goalkeeper to ever make one. Phillips was undoubtedly fortunate that it didn't cost us. I think his career might have really suffered to recover from such a massive mistake in an important game. If he divided opinion now can you imagine what it would have been like!
But it shouldn't define the keeper he is now. It doesn't mean he became a bad one overnight. He has weaknesses in his game but who doesn't below the very top top players. We are a Championship club and to be honest a large chunk of our squad are League 1 players on paper at the minute. Even Lockyer who had a brilliant week made a mistake which contributed to the Forest goal.
Rather than focus on his weaknesses, why don't we get behind him, stop criticising for each little mistake we witness and let Marshall focus on that in training. If he doesn't progress and the mistake worsen than we need to think about a change, but we don't need to worry about that right now.
Ashley, I actually agree with the vast majority of your post.
However, I wonder how you would score a very good performance ?
I agree that Phillips looked weak/not strong on crosses and although he punched clear (just), I was concerned every time a cross came over.
His distribution was also poor, which it generally is, unless he can tap it sideways to a defender.
Yes, the shot that he spilled wasn't good and luckily a defender cleared for him.
However, he also made a couple of excellent saves, which to my mind balanced out the weaknesses.
Personally I scored him 6 (I think), which is average.
I wouldn't drop him, because I saw Amos perform far worse v Villa in the psf, specifically letting in a long range shot, which should have been a comfortable save.
I think that due to a combination of the regularity of the Brentford attacks, the fact that seemingly we could not get out of our own half for much of the game , the mistake at Wembley that was playing on my mind and his generally poor game overall the two really absolute howlers that he was at fault for warranted the score that I gave . By comparison I would have given his performance at Wembley 6 and his contribution against Forest 7.5 and Doncaster 8 .Bowyer was bent over with both hands on his knees rooted to the spot and seemingly braced in disbelief against what he had just seen when the centre back hooked the ball jnto touch after Phillips spilled it . He then turned to Marshall and asked a question , put his hand to his face and then shook his head . I saw this as I looked down on him from where I sat as I was curious as to his reaction to such a terrible schoolboy like error of the type that you see on playing fields at junior level football it was that bad . The portents from Bowyer did not look good but I would stick with Phillips if only on the basis that to take him out now might wreck his confidence and he should be allowed to play through this tricky period and that you don’t change a winning team .
3 He made 2 absolute howlers (that were not absolute howlers).
Sorry Ashley, but those comments are ridiculous.
Sorry that you think that way . You overlook the other reasons that I earlier .mentiknef The list was not exhaustive but the principal reasons for the mark that I gave .He absolutely had to claim the ball on the specific occasions that I referred but did not do so. I think that you are looking at the two howlers through rose tinted spectacles . I don’t want you to be under any illusions at all about them both as they were absolute shockers and there is no getting away from that fact .His performance at Wembley shows he has form for a catastrophic error but I agree that he shouldn’t now be marked down for that . It’s just important context .
I should imagine virtually all goalies have form for a catastrophic error, don't they ? De Gea made some shockers last season, so have England goalies Hart & Butland and Pope and yes I think every goalie.
On the players marks thread I gave Dillon Phillips 3.5 . That seemed to a number of people to be egregiously low . It was not .. I saw the error at Wembley and the own goal was down to him as far as I am concerned . Yes the back pass was over hit and aimed at the goal but I think that he should have dealt with it and he didn’t . Fortunately that error did not cost us overall in the match but it could have done . It’s fair to say that the jury has always been out on him for me since that mistake . I have seen him have some really good games that warrant a much higher score than 3.5 . I regret that Saturday was not one of them . The things that concerned me in particular were the catch that he should have made when under no pressure at all from any Brentford players and that somehow bounced of his stomach / chest and that one of the centre backs had to desperately hook into touch . The second one was when he again under no pressure decided to punch the ball away rather than catch it . On both occasions it was absolutely imperative that the dominance that had been building over time from Brentford was relieved and that the defence got some respite from waves of attacks that they were never going to repel for vast parts of the game but which somehow they did . There were a number of other smaller errors that could have led to a goal eg in the first half when the Brentford centre forward got in behind the defence and skied one over the bar . There was also a deflection behind for a corner from Pearce when Phillips should have claimed the ball . He parried two shots into the path of a Brentford forward who fortunately could not convert . His kicking was not great and his throw outs were not accurate . Overall he would have scored 5 accounting also for two very good saves that he made . The first was to tip the ball around the post from a fierce shot in the first half and the second at the death to deny a goal that was followed up by blocks from Hemed and Field . Ironically that last save was also parried into the path of a Forward but it was such a rasping drive and he did extremely well to get down to it at his near post you can hardly blame him for that .The two absolute bowlers that I mention warrant a reduction from 5 to 3.5 . I had thought that 4 might be a reasonable mark but they were such terrible unforced mistakes , both of them , and heart in mouth moments that a reduction of 1.5 marks was warranted .What I particularly do not like about things that he does is that he seems very regularly to want to punch the ball a short distance away inviting another attack rather than respite and possession . I cannot understand why a goal keeper would not want to catch the ball when under no pressure at all rather than punch it . If some one can explain that to me then I would be really interested to know what the thinking is behind that . The other thing that I very much don’t like that he does is the “ Hollywood scurry “ . . By that I mean trying to look very good flying left or right at ground level in extremely dramatic fashion for what should be a routine save or what he appears to have evaluated as a shot with at least a 50/ 50 chance of going in and that he seemingly doesn’t want to look bad for letting in . He should get down to make the save irrespective of what it will look like on TV . All I am interested in is has he saved it not the drama of the effort to do so .if he elects to punch the ball away then I want to see him do that only when under pressure from an opposing player and I want to see him smash that player too . The referee if he is doing his job will give a foul on him as the keeper if his jump upwards is impeded . Refs don’t always get it right but 9 times out of 10 they do for any sort of physical challenge on the goal keeper and he has got to trust in that . If in the process of clattering the opponent it roughs the opponent up then great as it nullifies the ability of the player and will make him less likely to barge Phillips in future giving him more chances of catching the ball and not parrying it away . I think that he is hesitant in dealing with crosses and that needs to improve too . He is a young player developing all the time and has a chance to prove himself in the Championship having done really well at the end of last season and having contributed well to our promotion. Any criticism of him feels like it is taboo and can never ever be raised . I don’t understand why that is either . He is our player and he is a professional footballer who has to be able to deal with comments about his short comings . There is no agenda or vendetta or malice against him just statements of fact . I hope that he continues to develop and improve just as he has been doing for the last year . He has a way to go still and the signs are that he could get to where he should be as a Championship goalie based on aspects of his game that are good eg shot stopping and when he gets his kicking right his general distribution his throw outs being quite good and accurate usually . If you had a dog and it constantly pooed in your house then you would want to train it not to do so wouldn’t you ? You would not just let it continue to do so without trying to improve the situation . Doesn’t mean that you don’t care about the dog any less . The body language from Bowyer after the stomach bounce howler was not however very promising but he should not be dropped based on one poor game alone .
Ashley, you have a right to your opinion, but these are individual match scores.
You shouldn't still be marking Dillon for the mistake he made at Wembley.
I should imagine virtually all goalies have form for a catastrophic error, don't they ? De Gea made some shockers last season, so have England goalies Hart & Butland and Pope and yes I think every goalie.
Absolutely, like I said before keepers are so unfortunate that their mistakes are so much more obvious, and quite often result in goals. That does add pressure but has Phillips made a mistake that has led to a goal yet? I don't think he has.
I should imagine virtually all goalies have form for a catastrophic error, don't they ? De Gea made some shockers last season, so have England goalies Hart & Butland and Pope and yes I think every goalie.
Absolutely, like I said before keepers are so unfortunate that their mistakes are so much more obvious, and quite often result in goals. That does add pressure but has Phillips made a mistake that has led to a goal yet? I don't think he has.
Some questioned his positioning for Ince's goal v Stoke, but I didn't blame him for not stopping that wind assisted blockbuster.
I should imagine virtually all goalies have form for a catastrophic error, don't they ? De Gea made some shockers last season, so have England goalies Hart & Butland and Pope and yes I think every goalie.
Absolutely, like I said before keepers are so unfortunate that their mistakes are so much more obvious, and quite often result in goals. That does add pressure but has Phillips made a mistake that has led to a goal yet? I don't think he has.
Some questioned his positioning for Ince's goal v Stoke, but I didn't blame him for not stopping that wind assisted blockbuster.
I think it could have been better but not sure it was an obvious mistake. Either way, it wasn't so long ago we thought we would struggle. 5 games in we are third and have conceded 5 goals (1 of them a freak own goal and 2 outstanding ones), do we really need to start panicking about Phillips, or anyone else for that matter? I don't.
If you give a mark - it shouldn't need the amount of words you have written explaining why. This, and the fact nobody else went that low, suggests it was not a realistic mark.
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Until he actually costs us games then keep doing your thing Dill.
He has a lot to learn, but gambling on Amos over him is pointless.
I thought Pearce and Lockyer were joint motm yesterday, if either one of them had average games yesterday we would have conceded 3 I feel and it wouldn't have been all Dills fault.
I think he made one really good save and a couple of decent ones. Just because he kept a clean sheet doesn't mean he had a great game, in the same way conceding 4 doesn't mean you had a bad one. But it does mean he didn't make a mistake that was punished. He has to keep learning to become the keeper he has the potential to be, but right now he fully deserves his place as Number 1 and I don't get why fans are on his back because he's not the complete package. All our players have areas of their game they could improve on.
Phillips spilled an easy catch on Saturday and generally doesn't inspire much confidence. I wonder what went wrong with Amos? Why the alarming decline in his previously high standard?
We used to heavily complain about Nick Pope constantly doing that... Look at where he is now
But it shouldn't define the keeper he is now. It doesn't mean he became a bad one overnight. He has weaknesses in his game but who doesn't below the very top top players. We are a Championship club and to be honest a large chunk of our squad are League 1 players on paper at the minute. Even Lockyer who had a brilliant week made a mistake which contributed to the Forest goal.
Rather than focus on his weaknesses, why don't we get behind him, stop criticising for each little mistake we witness and let Marshall focus on that in training. If he doesn't progress and the mistake worsen than we need to think about a change, but we don't need to worry about that right now.
However, I wonder how you would score a very good performance ?
I agree that Phillips looked weak/not strong on crosses and although he punched clear (just), I was concerned every time a cross came over.
His distribution was also poor, which it generally is, unless he can tap it sideways to a defender.
Yes, the shot that he spilled wasn't good and luckily a defender cleared for him.
However, he also made a couple of excellent saves, which to my mind balanced out the weaknesses.
Personally I scored him 6 (I think), which is average.
I wouldn't drop him, because I saw Amos perform far worse v Villa in the psf, specifically letting in a long range shot, which should have been a comfortable save.
PS I score you 0/10 on punctuation :-)
1 Brentford attacked us all game.
2 Phillips made a howler 3 months previously.
3 He made 2 absolute howlers (that were not absolute howlers).
Sorry Ashley, but those comments are ridiculous.
De Gea made some shockers last season, so have England goalies Hart & Butland and Pope and yes I think every goalie.
You shouldn't still be marking Dillon for the mistake he made at Wembley.