I saw it this afternoon.
I have to say, it is one of the best films I've ever seen.
There were a few things I didn't quite agree with but those things also made sense and I could see why they was included within the film.
I hope the movie, whether intended to or not, creates more awareness for mentally vunerable or unstable people.
It also highlighted bullyish behaviour. People that prey on the weak. People who are not loved or cared for enough. Potential consequences that can arise. I don't mean people should use poor treatment as an excuse for bad behaviour. Everyone should take responsibility and the film is obviously just purely fictional anyway, based on a comic book character.
I just think it had a lot of relevant depth to it.
For me, it really highlighted a few key points in regards to the real world that we live in.
Batman is a comic book character loved by many...but this story enables the viewer to see things from the other side.
The audience will most likely have sympathy for the main character "Arthur" in this movie.
Vague example of comparison.
Arthur and Walter White recieve the audience's sympathy.
The Joker and Heisenberg do not.
Robert De Niro was great in it too.
I don't understand why this film has received so many bad reviews.
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For example his comedy routine being a complete dud is presented as him being a victim and a laughing stock but it's not for audiences to laugh at material that isn't even funny just to make the comic feel validated. He really ISN'T very funny but he doesn't seem to realise that, just blames literally everyone else for not getting how humour.
It was sophisticated and set in the relevant time frame for when batman did start.
He is not a 21st century character.
"Suicide squad" ..."Batman Vs Superman" plus another I think.
They were awful films.
I don't think Bruce Wayne should have been in this Joker film...but his inclusion has also added to the sequel possibility.
The failed comedian with narcissistic tendencies that always had a dark side within himself.
He just needed a few things to push himself over the edge and allow him to be who he really was.
From what we saw though...whether it was him just imagining it or not...
He was desperate to be loved. He wanted to be relatively popular, appriciated and "normal".
Most people want that and hope they can get it. Probably why the audience sympathise with "Arthur".
He has a condition where he can not stop laughing. Of course, it would be an extremely embaressing problem to have.
Most people don't want to be victimised and taken the pi$$ out of.
He had to tell himself that he was someone else....because he couldn't accept reality.
When reality was finally forced on him. He then had nothing to lose...so he decided to become a maniac instead and ended up winning the support from fellow criminals.
If you’re feeling down in anyway don’t go anywhere near this !
I think it’s one of those movies that’s going to stick in my head for quite a while .
If it’s a typical DC movie you are after you won’t get it with Joker .
Amazing film
9 out of 10
I must admit I felt a little uncomfortable when it played but the whole film makes you feel a little uncomfortable!
I think it's likely to be worse....if you are in a good mood.
I was in a bad mood. Went to the cinema by myself watched the film enjoyed and actually felt better. Had a way of putting things into perspective. The random reactions of the human mind eh... 👍
I did personally believe that his acting performance during the live TV confrontation at the end...it wasn't great and it wasn't very believable.
That's De Niro though. A lot is expected from him at all times.
interesting reading how he prepared for the role. Keen not to be inspired by past jokers so didn’t watch them, rather he studied political assassinations.
he deserves an Oscar but I’m not sure if the negative publicity surrounding the film will ultimately encourage the academy to favour someone else.
A good friend of mine - possibly the biggest Batman and movie geek in the country - was surprisingly disappointed with it, saying "I didn’t buy it. Scenes from Phillips’ favourite movies strung together, embroidered with audience friendly hot-button issues. And Joaquin again mistaking masturbation for acting." and while I see where he's coming from, I don't have the same negative feeling. I felt it was a love letter to 70s/ 80s cinema (even down to the aspect ratio) and enjoyed it as such.
The untrustworthy narrator thing is somethingI didn't consider until I read it here, and while it is something to think about I don't think it's the case. We were explicitly shown what he was imagining, but not in order to make us question the rest of the movie. I think that was specific to his loneliness. Him getting on TV so easily was something I didn't quite buy, I admit, but I don't put that down to his imagination. Phillips just didn't spend much time showing that process on screen.
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Seriously though, that's pretty thick of a thing to do and I can only hope and assume, they simply didn't know or had an agreement in place that meant royalties will not be due.