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Palace plan new academy to entice local talent

EveshamAddick
EveshamAddick Posts: 7,015
in General Charlton
According to today’s Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/31/crystal-palace-local-talent-new-academy-south-london

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Remember when we all used to like Kevin Phillips? He can really, honestly do one
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    EveshamAddick said:
    According to today’s Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/31/crystal-palace-local-talent-new-academy-slurrey

    Corrected it.  FUCKING newspapers eh?
  • TalBHAndreBA
    TalBHAndreBA Posts: 380
    "Palace consider themselves the 'Pride of south London'" - You've got to laugh :D
  • drewman
    drewman Posts: 1,104
    TalBHAndreBA said:
    "Palace consider themselves the 'Pride of south London'" - You've got to laugh :D
    Why? I dislike palace as much as the next person but I'm objective enough to recognise they are in a better place than us at the moment. They would laugh at us making a similar claim.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,314
    drewman said:
    TalBHAndreBA said:
    "Palace consider themselves the 'Pride of south London'" - You've got to laugh :D
    Why? I dislike palace as much as the next person but I'm objective enough to recognise they are in a better place than us at the moment. They would laugh at us making a similar claim.
    They’re not south London 
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Hot bed of footballing talent in South London... There's enough to go around 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    They are linked with my sons football club , Buckhurst Hill in Essex , running extra training and trying to scalp some of the younger kids .
    Anyone can go but I refuse for any of mine to attend , not that they’d be good enough to progress further but can’t be linked with them Croydon muppets .
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,893
    If you read the small print, you have to be christened Nigel to be able to join their academy so let’s not worry too much.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    They're better off sending scouts to the local diving club.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888
    Addickted said:
    They're better off sending scouts to the local diving club.
    There won't be any of them soon !
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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,622
    They can pump as much money into the scheme as they like, it’s the end product that counts, ie players getting a chance to progress to the first team and develop from there. That’s what really counts when you build and try and sustain a youth ladder.
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    Very true, @letthegoodtimesroll, but if Palace can point to a Catagory 1 set up attached to a Premier club, there are going to be plenty of able young players and their ambitious parents who see that as a better option than Charlton with a Catagory 2 academy attached to a Championship club.

    Unless they already have family connections with CAFC, will they realise there is a higher probability of the youngster progressing to regular first team football at The Valley than at Sellhurst?  And that's even before we consider the "Duchatelet Effect" hanging over us!

    With a sensible owner who understood football, we would ourselves have had a Cat 1 academy by now, and it would be far less of a potential threat.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,963
    edited November 2019
    Is there any update on our supposed bid for Category 1 status? I only ask as a mate I know has recently attended a meeting at Sparrows Lanenwhere he was asked to do some part time scouting as part of a move towards cat 1 status. Certainly surprised me but I trust the person telling me implicitly.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    bolloxbolder said:
    Is there any update on our supposed bid for Category 1 status? I only ask as a mate I know has recently attended a meeting at Sparrows Lanenwhere he was asked to do some part time scouting as part of a move towards cat 1 status. Certainly surprised me but I trust the person telling me implicitly.
    No news about cat 1.  However the trench walls are looking a tad untidy.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,622
    N01R4M said:
    Very true, @letthegoodtimesroll, but if Palace can point to a Catagory 1 set up attached to a Premier club, there are going to be plenty of able young players and their ambitious parents who see that as a better option than Charlton with a Catagory 2 academy attached to a Championship club.

    Unless they already have family connections with CAFC, will they realise there is a higher probability of the youngster progressing to regular first team football at The Valley than at Sellhurst?  And that's even before we consider the "Duchatelet Effect" hanging over us!

    With a sensible owner who understood football, we would ourselves have had a Cat 1 academy by now, and it would be far less of a potential threat.
    We are talking about a club that had Jonny Williams on its books and couldn’t find a place for him so how are they going to recognise and develop young footballing talent through to the first team ?
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    An excellent point, @letthegoodtimesroll, but again, would young lads or their parents who are not Palace or Charlton supporters be aware of such things?  They may find plan A of getting the lad into, say, Chelsea's academy impossible, and be looking for a plan B. 

    Also remember Jonny had a lot of injury issues while at Palace which no doubt coloured the fans views there;  Addicks are not immune to such pigeon-holing!!
  • Pringle
    Pringle Posts: 464
    Let's not worry about what Palace do eh. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Won’t that mean that as a category 1 they can nick our youngsters for nothing?
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Pringle said:
    Let's not worry about what Palace do eh. 
    Yep they have been above us for so long , its nearly as embarrassing as their fans 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Pringle said:
    Let's not worry about what Palace do eh. 
    Yep they have been above us for so long , its nearly as embarrassing as their fans 
    Nothing is as embarrassing as their fans 
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  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Has anyone got any stats on Palace academy players making 1st team debuts? I'd guess it would be a short piece of A4. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    wan-bissaka £45m to Man Utd through their academy will cover their academy costs for a bit 

    we got £3.5m for Gomez ffs 

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,220
    harveys_gardener said:
    Has anyone got any stats on Palace academy players making 1st team debuts? I'd guess it would be a short piece of A4. 
    To be fair during our Premier League years you could write our list on the other side of the same sheet of paper.

    Football works in cycles nothing stays the same forever, one day Zaha will leave Palace and the tables will turn with us back above them even if it doesn't look like it. The process started last season with our return to The Championship.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    MartinCAFC said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Has anyone got any stats on Palace academy players making 1st team debuts? I'd guess it would be a short piece of A4. 
    To be fair during our Premier League years you could write our list on the other side of the same sheet of paper.

    Football works in cycles nothing stays the same forever, one day Zaha will leave Palace and the tables will turn with us back above them even if it doesn't look like it. The process started last season with our return to The Championship.
    Zaha left palace and didn’t play for them in the 2013/14 season , unfortunately they didn’t get relegated and finished 11th in the prem .
    this season will be the 13th on the spin they have finished above us , with them unlikely to go down and us with a small chance of promotion this doesn’t look like ending that quickly .
    The previous 9 seasons we finished above them .
    The previous 9 to that they finished above us ! 
    Previous 4 us on top .

    This cycle has gone on far too long , thankfully it’s different with our real rivals the scum 
    They have finished above us the last 3 seasons , hopefully that stops this season .
    Previous 4 we finished above the scum
    previous 3 scum above us 
    the previous 15 us above them 
    a run of a few seasons of them than us finishing above each other and before that we had a 10 year run of above the scum.

    so it is cyclical but this run of palaces is a disaster 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    They've gone into administration twice as much as us as well the bastards.

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