A. But with the North Lower as a standing section. But also a block (possibly block G in the East Stand) designated for woke anti racist vegan/vegetarian non Tory brexit hating supporters.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Agree with block G but can you insert Gluten Free ahead of vegan/veggie as it's not a lifestyle choice, unless it's a no-arguments block as well ;-)
The Valley was big enough when we were last in the PL and if anything with the increased TV revenues since then there would be less of requirement to build it higher if we got back anytime soon.
Also I have never understood the link between a new bigger stadium and increased support. The prices at The Valley are already in some areas priced very low so that would not be something we could introduce as an incentive at a new ground. More seats creates less demand for some games so season tickets may not be in demand from some as they would be at a 27k Valley.
The attendances have took a kicking over the past few seasons so that needs to be built up again, along with understanding what effect the lockdown as had on some to go back to football again in the future. Until we are selling out the ground on even an ad hoc basis at fairly normal prices its not even something to look at, unless RD starts playing silly buggers with the rent or disputes over who pays for what.
A. But with the North Lower as a standing section. But also a block (possibly block G in the East Stand) designated for woke anti racist vegan/vegetarian non Tory brexit hating supporters.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Bit optimistic requiring a whole block but I’m in. Just have to work out some songs specific to that area. ‘Lee Bowyer’s Chickpea Army’?!?
The Valley...it’s ours & it’s unique, could & should never even be thinking of leaving,if we ever f do get back to the PL it’s more than enough for little ole Charlton...👍
The two clubs I who's model I think we'll follow, Brighton and Brentford. The Amex is only slightly bigger then the Valley. The issue with the Valley is hospitality, that'll be where they'll need to be investment.
The two clubs I who's model I think we'll follow, Brighton and Brentford. The Amex is only slightly bigger then the Valley. The issue with the Valley is hospitality, that'll be where they'll need to be investment.
Exactly this. It's interesting that Brentford's new stadium will only have a 17K capacity. They obviously see the revenues coming from elsewhere, hospitality as you say, and streaming. The Valley is big enough overall, we need to somehow deal with the accoustics to make it more intimidating for away teams.
I'm not advocating a new stadium, but if we did want one we could probably buy a plot on one of those retail estates on Bugsby's Way with the way retail has been decimated by internet shopping
Filling in the south corners and redeveloping the JS would take it to about 35k tops depending on how high they can take it.
A new stadium could feasibly fit in somewhere on the Peninsula, taking over where the golf range is for instance, or taking over some of the old industrial sites between The Thames and the A206. There's also a huge patch of land where Tivoli Gardens is that's been levelled, no idea what the plans for that are
Take the £400M it would take to build a new stadium... take £200M of that and refurbish The Valley... take the other £200M and spend it on net incoming transfers and salaries over 4 years and we are in the PL. Win-win.
Just tidy up the south end of the stadium. Fill in the corners and make it a bit taller, like the Covered End, should take us to around 30,000 which is adequate.
Just tidy up the south end of the stadium. Fill in the corners and make it a bit taller, like the Covered End, should take us to around 30,000 which is adequate.
If we can return to gates of 27k regularly I'll be surprised. Also there's no guarantee or likelihood that TS plans for top end Premier League will actually materialise. If we can get to the top division, would we realistically stay there. Our history has not suggested that we are a top flight club. The last time we had average gates of 40k+ was in the 1940's even by the 50's they had dropped significantly. 65 odd years since we left the old first division, most years have been in Division Two / Championship, which would mean the Valley as it currently stands is perfectly adequate. I think we should be established in Premier League for at least 5 years before increasing stadium size.
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And long may it be so.
just needs a refurb when TS gets ownership
Also I have never understood the link between a new bigger stadium and increased support. The prices at The Valley are already in some areas priced very low so that would not be something we could introduce as an incentive at a new ground. More seats creates less demand for some games so season tickets may not be in demand from some as they would be at a 27k Valley.
The attendances have took a kicking over the past few seasons so that needs to be built up again, along with understanding what effect the lockdown as had on some to go back to football again in the future. Until we are selling out the ground on even an ad hoc basis at fairly normal prices its not even something to look at, unless RD starts playing silly buggers with the rent or disputes over who pays for what.
Bit optimistic requiring a whole block but I’m in. Just have to work out some songs specific to that area. ‘Lee Bowyer’s Chickpea Army’?!?
It's already been said. The answer is c) - Stay at The Valley and play in the Premier League.
A new stadium could feasibly fit in somewhere on the Peninsula, taking over where the golf range is for instance, or taking over some of the old industrial sites between The Thames and the A206. There's also a huge patch of land where Tivoli Gardens is that's been levelled, no idea what the plans for that are