Dramatisation of 1880s football and the clash between upper class amateurs and working class professionals.
Series on Netflix now.
For anyone watching Lord Kinnaird has a blue plaque in Bromley.
As a matter of interest Henry where is that plaque?
The Kinnaird family once owned the school that I left 50 years ago. I note that Kinnaird Avenue skirts one of the school's boundaries.
The building was originally known as Plaistow Lodge but became Quernmore school. It had some rather grand times before (alas) becoming the rough house secondary modern that I attended. I believe it is a junior school now.
I think the story could have been told in two or three episodes. There was a lot of tripe to wade though. Also I thought some of the script, casting and acting was atrocious. It's very difficult to 'act' playing football, I cannot think of many films where it has looked natural.
I'd be interested to know how much of it is artistic licence? My guess would be most of it.
I think the story could have been told in two or three episodes. There was a lot of tripe to wade though. Also I thought some of the script, casting and acting was atrocious. It's very difficult to 'act' playing football, I cannot think of many films where it has looked natural.
I'd be interested to know how much of it is artistic licence? My guess would be most of it.
I have to disagree with you there - Escape To Victory was very realistic. In fact, Sly Stallone's performance was worthy of an Oscar.
Kinnaird comes out if it we'll despite being a posho.
I enjoyed it as a drama. Only six episodes and it was as much about class and family than football but it was a crucial time in soccer history when our game could have split in the way rugby did into amateur mainly southern teams and professional mainly northern teams. The Football League comes five years later. Football nearly split again in the early 20th century on the same amateur v professional lines.
Some of the historical timeline was moved around to make a better story but it was largely factual in terms of the football as far as my limited knowledge can tell.
The one glaring and deliberate gap was which team does Suter play for when he leaves Darwen.
Kinnaird comes out if it we'll despite being a posho.
I enjoyed it as a drama. Only six episodes and it was as much about class and family than football but it was a crucial time in soccer history when our game could have split in the way rugby did into amateur mainly southern teams and professional mainly northern teams. The Football League comes five years later. Football nearly split again in the early 20th century on the same amateur v professional lines.
Some of the historical timeline was moved around to make a better story but it was largely factual in terms of the football as far as my limited knowledge can tell.
The one glaring and deliberate gap was which team does Suter play for when he leaves Darwen.
I read this one - He really played for Blackburn Rovers, but Olympic won the cup in 1883.
Kinnaird comes out if it we'll despite being a posho.
I enjoyed it as a drama. Only six episodes and it was as much about class and family than football but it was a crucial time in soccer history when our game could have split in the way rugby did into amateur mainly southern teams and professional mainly northern teams. The Football League comes five years later. Football nearly split again in the early 20th century on the same amateur v professional lines.
Some of the historical timeline was moved around to make a better story but it was largely factual in terms of the football as far as my limited knowledge can tell.
The one glaring and deliberate gap was which team does Suter play for when he leaves Darwen.
I read this one - He really played for Blackburn Rovers, but Olympic won the cup in 1883.
But they just referred to Blackburn Football Club and had signs saying just that.
Suter did lift the FA Cup but not in the game or for the team shown in the programme.
Kinnaird comes out if it we'll despite being a posho.
I enjoyed it as a drama. Only six episodes and it was as much about class and family than football but it was a crucial time in soccer history when our game could have split in the way rugby did into amateur mainly southern teams and professional mainly northern teams. The Football League comes five years later. Football nearly split again in the early 20th century on the same amateur v professional lines.
Some of the historical timeline was moved around to make a better story but it was largely factual in terms of the football as far as my limited knowledge can tell.
The one glaring and deliberate gap was which team does Suter play for when he leaves Darwen.
No wonder it’s on Netflix and not sky, as football wasn’t around before 92’,that’s 1992 & not 1892.
I was going to suggest that Kropotkin played on the left wing but found myself contemplating that the primary inspiration of anarcho-syndicalism is centred on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must either be dismantled or replaced by a decentralised egalitarian control.
Clearly then he is the archetypal British centre forward, a Jeff Astle or Alan Shearer type if you like. I believe that this is backed up by Kropotkin's conclusions that not all human societies were based on competition as were those of industrialised Europe, and that many societies exhibited cooperation among individuals and groups as the norm.
So a team player but he liked to take all the penalties and the free kicks that were in and around the penalty box.
I was going to suggest that Kropotkin played on the left wing but found myself contemplating that the primary inspiration of anarcho-syndicalism is centred on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must either be dismantled or replaced by a decentralised egalitarian control.
Clearly then he is the archetypal British centre forward, a Jeff Astle or Alan Shearer type if you like. I believe that this is backed up by Kropotkin's conclusions that not all human societies were based on competition as were those of industrialised Europe, and that many societies exhibited cooperation among individuals and groups as the norm.
So a team player but he liked to take all the penalties and the free kicks that were in and around the penalty box.
I was going to suggest that Kropotkin played on the left wing but found myself contemplating that the primary inspiration of anarcho-syndicalism is centred on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must either be dismantled or replaced by a decentralised egalitarian control.
Clearly then he is the archetypal British centre forward, a Jeff Astle or Alan Shearer type if you like. I believe that this is backed up by Kropotkin's conclusions that not all human societies were based on competition as were those of industrialised Europe, and that many societies exhibited cooperation among individuals and groups as the norm.
So a team player but he liked to take all the penalties and the free kicks that were in and around the penalty box.
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2 hour break to watch the 98 final and then back to it
It's the show that no one asked for!
The Kinnaird family once owned the school that I left 50 years ago. I note that Kinnaird Avenue skirts one of the school's boundaries.
The building was originally known as Plaistow Lodge but became Quernmore school. It had some rather grand times before (alas) becoming the rough house secondary modern that I attended. I believe it is a junior school now.
https://www.bblhs.org.uk/plaistow-lodge-and-lord-kinnaird
I must have confused it with this one.
https://www.bromley.gov.uk/directory_record/276614/prince_pyotr_peter_alekseyevich_kropotkin_1842-1921
(I had to look Kinnaird up though).
Also I thought some of the script, casting and acting was atrocious.
It's very difficult to 'act' playing football, I cannot think of many films where it has looked natural.
I'd be interested to know how much of it is artistic licence? My guess would be most of it.
I enjoyed it as a drama. Only six episodes and it was as much about class and family than football but it was a crucial time in soccer history when our game could have split in the way rugby did into amateur mainly southern teams and professional mainly northern teams. The Football League comes five years later. Football nearly split again in the early 20th century on the same amateur v professional lines.
Some of the historical timeline was moved around to make a better story but it was largely factual in terms of the football as far as my limited knowledge can tell.
The one glaring and deliberate gap was which team does Suter play for when he leaves Darwen.
One of, if not my favourite books and TV series ever.
Have you read or seen either?
Being a Tory, he was on the right-wing.
Clearly then he is the archetypal British centre forward, a Jeff Astle or Alan Shearer type if you like.
I believe that this is backed up by Kropotkin's conclusions that not all human societies were based on competition as were those of industrialised Europe, and that many societies exhibited cooperation among individuals and groups as the norm.
So a team player but he liked to take all the penalties and the free kicks that were in and around the penalty box.
https://www.englandsoldestfootballclubs.com/the-english-game-a-review/