New oven/ electrical wiring help please

RodneyCharltonTrotta

So just to add some more fun and games into Coronafest 2020 my fecking oven has broken today.  Had it repaired before but it's gone again and probably time to get a new one.

Question is that the current oven is about 15 plus years old.  It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug.

The new ovens we are looking at are 4.8 kilowatts.  https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-mha133br0b-built-in-double-electric-oven-a-b-energy-rating-black/p4875102?sku=238529097&s_ppc=2dx-KELKOO-EHT92700045364684707&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkszorsDF6AIViKztCh04xAITEAQYASABEgIPSfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.d

Would this come with a plug? If so are there any considerations in terms of the kilowatts?

Or does it need to be wired in and if so how complex (and expensive) is that sort of thing?

Completely clueless about all of this stuff so any insight will be gratefully received.

Cheers in advance

cafcdave123

it’s getting warmer outside anyway mate, just do everything on the bbq till all this blows over.

maybe even treat yourself to one of these 


https://www.aldi.co.uk/gardenline-barbeque-pizza-oven/p/800749356754900 

Chippycafc

Ovens have moved on considerably in the last 15 years, if its a plug in one just buy another. If you decide a non plug type I recommend you get a sparky to fit it for you, and a qualified one....

Greenie Junior

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

So just to add some more fun and games into Coronafest 2020 my fecking oven has broken today.  Had it repaired before but it's gone again and probably time to get a new one.

Question is that the current oven is about 15 plus years old.  It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug.

The new ovens we are looking at are 4.8 kilowatts.  https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-mha133br0b-built-in-double-electric-oven-a-b-energy-rating-black/p4875102?sku=238529097&s_ppc=2dx-KELKOO-EHT92700045364684707&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkszorsDF6AIViKztCh04xAITEAQYASABEgIPSfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.d

Would this come with a plug? If so are there any considerations in terms of the kilowatts?

Or does it need to be wired in and if so how complex (and expensive) is that sort of thing?

Completely clueless about all of this stuff so any insight will be gratefully received.

Cheers in advance

As far as the cable equation goes it would be looking at roughly 21amps of load, if the cable run is around 10 metres, however this isn’t taking diversity into account. 

Whenever I know a client is having a double oven like the above I always recommend putting on its own circuit With a bigger cable and they are generally hardwired. 

I’d be hesitant to put a load that size on your kitchen ring main especially if you have a fair few other appliances on the go. 

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Thanks gents.

Dave Rudd

On the assumption that when you say "It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug" that this is not plugged into a 45 amp Cooker point, definitely DO NOT consider using a simple 13A plug for a 5.8kW oven.  As Greenie Junior says you will be drawing something in excess of 20 amps and you may even exceed the capacity of the RCD circuit breaker in your consumer unit for that ring if it is not a dedicated cooker circuit.

Your chosen oven needs to be hard-wired professionally onto a ring with suitable capacity (32 amps would be a minimum).

Cost will depend on your electrician, but there is no way to cut corners here.  

5.8kW is a lot of power.  Do it right.

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Thanks Dave

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Greenie Junior said:

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

So just to add some more fun and games into Coronafest 2020 my fecking oven has broken today.  Had it repaired before but it's gone again and probably time to get a new one.

Question is that the current oven is about 15 plus years old.  It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug.

The new ovens we are looking at are 4.8 kilowatts.  https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-mha133br0b-built-in-double-electric-oven-a-b-energy-rating-black/p4875102?sku=238529097&s_ppc=2dx-KELKOO-EHT92700045364684707&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkszorsDF6AIViKztCh04xAITEAQYASABEgIPSfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.d

Would this come with a plug? If so are there any considerations in terms of the kilowatts?

Or does it need to be wired in and if so how complex (and expensive) is that sort of thing?

Completely clueless about all of this stuff so any insight will be gratefully received.

Cheers in advance

As far as the cable equation goes it would be looking at roughly 21amps of load, if the cable run is around 10 metres, however this isn’t taking diversity into account. 

PS I'm really not fussed on its ethnicity, sexuality or gender and I think on that point the oven self- identifies as an oven.

:-)

DaveMehmet

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

Greenie Junior said:

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

So just to add some more fun and games into Coronafest 2020 my fecking oven has broken today.  Had it repaired before but it's gone again and probably time to get a new one.

Question is that the current oven is about 15 plus years old.  It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug.

The new ovens we are looking at are 4.8 kilowatts.  https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-mha133br0b-built-in-double-electric-oven-a-b-energy-rating-black/p4875102?sku=238529097&s_ppc=2dx-KELKOO-EHT92700045364684707&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkszorsDF6AIViKztCh04xAITEAQYASABEgIPSfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.d

Would this come with a plug? If so are there any considerations in terms of the kilowatts?

Or does it need to be wired in and if so how complex (and expensive) is that sort of thing?

Completely clueless about all of this stuff so any insight will be gratefully received.

Cheers in advance

As far as the cable equation goes it would be looking at roughly 21amps of load, if the cable run is around 10 metres, however this isn’t taking diversity into account. 

PS I'm really not fussed on its ethnicity, sexuality or gender and I think on that point the oven self- identifies as an oven.

:-)

But you'll need to take it into acount if you want an all dancing one.

Greenie Junior

Feel free to drop me a message if you need any more advice on the matter 👍🏻

cherryorchard

Should imagine it might be a while before you get sorted.  I got one of these when we were waiting for our new oven. I have found it worth every penny. Still use it every day rather than heating up big oven:

Only drawbacks:  it has a short lead so need to have it close to socket an quite large and obviously not cheap.

https://www.qvcuk.com/Ninja-Foodi-6-in-1-Pressure-Cooker-Air-Fryer%2C-Slow-Cooker-%26-Grill.product.808525.html?sc=SRCH

cafc999

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

Greenie Junior said:

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

So just to add some more fun and games into Coronafest 2020 my fecking oven has broken today.  Had it repaired before but it's gone again and probably time to get a new one.

Question is that the current oven is about 15 plus years old.  It is plugged into the mains and (from vague memory) with a bog standard plug.

The new ovens we are looking at are 4.8 kilowatts.  https://www.johnlewis.com/bosch-mha133br0b-built-in-double-electric-oven-a-b-energy-rating-black/p4875102?sku=238529097&s_ppc=2dx-KELKOO-EHT92700045364684707&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkszorsDF6AIViKztCh04xAITEAQYASABEgIPSfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.d

Would this come with a plug? If so are there any considerations in terms of the kilowatts?

Or does it need to be wired in and if so how complex (and expensive) is that sort of thing?

Completely clueless about all of this stuff so any insight will be gratefully received.

Cheers in advance

As far as the cable equation goes it would be looking at roughly 21amps of load, if the cable run is around 10 metres, however this isn’t taking diversity into account. 

PS I'm really not fussed on its ethnicity, sexuality or gender and I think on that point the oven self- identifies as an oven.

:-)

I thought he was on about the dance group 

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Greenie Junior said:

Feel free to drop me a message if you need any more advice on the matter 👍🏻

Cheers Greenie, appreciate that.  Think we're just gonna hold on and maybe get it repaired when things settle down.

Have a crock pot slow/ pressure cooker so not stumped.  Used it tonight and the food came out better than out of the oven so in no rush to shell out on a new one now especially in the current climate with the logistics of getting it installed etc.