Struggle to see how anyone sitting or driving in a car is putting anyone at risk. I feel safer driving to shops than walking. Eight metre danger, not two.
Struggle to see how anyone sitting or driving in a car is putting anyone at risk. I feel safer driving to shops than walking. Eight metre danger, not two.
I would say that applying logic, it must be safer to drive to your nearest shop. For a start, you need to shop with the intention of shopping to a minimum so you may need to buy more than you can carry. Of course that doesn't mean hoarding specific items.
Are dogs allowed off their leads in parks and recs?
Not in my local park. Have to be kept on lead during social distancing. Not that many are complying with it.
Same in our communal gardens but if you 'remind' anyone, their dog is ok because it isn't a problem. It's like a lot of things in this lockdown, the rules seem only to apply to others
As a dog owner, my understanding of the rules was they must be kept on a lead. The idea, as I understand it, being if they had to be separated from other dogs, people may have to get closer to each other.
As a dog owner, my understanding of the rules was they must be kept on a lead. The idea, as I understand it, being if they had to be separated from other dogs, people may have to get closer to each other.
Yup - it really shouldn’t be difficult to understand eh?
This is from the Dog's Trust. I took it as unless you find a local park that only you can use you have to have your dog on a lead:
It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
if walking your dog in areas used by other people, you should walk your dog on a lead to ensure you can safely keep 2 metres away from others. You can find further guidance for pet owners here
And reinforced by the Dogs trust
Can I walk my dog off lead?
It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
if walking your dog in areas used by other people, you should walk your dog on a lead to ensure you can safely keep 2 metres away from others. You can find further guidance for pet owners here
And reinforced by the Dogs trust
Can I walk my dog off lead?
It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
Stopping dogs greeting each other seems a bit pointless given they stop and closely sniff every bit of piss and shit deposited by other dogs and animals.
I think it is more about increased chances of approaching other people than other dogs. I have encountered dogs off lead that have been a nuisance when walking my dog a couple of times. Some will say, my dog/s are well trained but the rule sadly is there for those that are not sufficiently well trained.
As someone who is nervous of dogs and hate it when they jump up at me, I think all dogs should be kept on leads unless there is a space designated for dogs to be off leads. The local woodland trust site has areas where dogs must be kept on leads and areas they can be let off leads. I know where I can walk safely if I don't want a dog to jump up at me.
If I'm the only person walking my did I let her off the lead to have a run. If there are other people with dogs about I put her back on the lead. It's not that hard really.
If I was to exercise my dogs in a public place in the current situation, I would keep my dogs on their leads. Local bylaws are set out by councils as to when and where dogs can be off lead and while other establishments particularly now can advise I’m not sure it’s enforceable. Here we have “dog beach” and you get some dog owners telling people to stay on the people’s beach if they don’t want to be bothered by their dog as it’s the “dog beach” this is total bollocks, control your dog, For this reason I stay away the beach some 50 yards from my house, as some people want everything in their favour, as far as the virus is concerned. It’s my belief from what I’ve read that while the virus can’t be passed internally by dogs or cats, it possibly can be transferred on the their coats, so for example I cough and splutter over my dog and it comes to you in the street the virus is then transferred and although it’s a remote possibility there’s still that chance, so to reduce the odds I would keep mine on a lead, how long it can remain live while airborne I’m not sure.
To give context, I only raised about dog leads as I had just on my way back from a walk with one of my boys cut through the local rec. it’s about 300m perimeter and there were 9 dogs being exercised on the rec, every single one of them off leads. Some were playing with each other, running up to people etc.
Just didnt feel right to me for such a small area imo.
To give context, I only raised about dog leads as I had just on my way back from a walk with one of my boys cut through the local rec. it’s about 300m perimeter and there were 9 dogs being exercised on the rec, every single one of them off leads. Some were playing with each other, running up to people etc.
Just didnt feel right to me for such a small area imo.
I'm quite lucky that I can avoid small area's as there are several golf courses and plenty of farmland not to far from me so it's enables the dog to have a proper run. I agree with you that in smaller areas dogs should at this present time be kept on a lead.
I’ve been letting the dogs off the lead in the local park as long as there are no dogs they don’t know there. About a third of the park is fenced off and no dogs are allowed in.
As I have one very old and slow dog on his last legs and one young dog who is just an adolescent (although well trained) this seems fine as if we were all to go at old dogs pace young dog would get no exercise.
Before being aware of the advice, I should have thought about it more, the dogs were, as they normally would be, off the lead as they are both very good with other dogs and people.
However, the other day there was a Jack Russell we had not seen before off its lead. It was young. It and my young dog had some initially fine play and then the Jack Russell started to get bitey. I put my dogs on the lead and started to leave. The Jack Russell went back to the owner. She did not put her dog on the lead. ‘Oh he’s only a puppy, he’s not biting that hard, he’s just playing’.
The Jack Russell came back before we got out of the park and was trying to get to Wilson again. He ended up literally hanging off Wilson’s ear having decided to take the ‘fun play’ to another level. I separated the dogs and then the little git wriggled out of his harness and went again for Wilson.
i separated them again and had to hand over the dog and the harness to the owner thereby breaking the social distancing rules.
At this point I was very very angry but she didn’t appear to understand wither that having your dog bite other dogs isn’t acceptable as they could but back or that a lead would be a better option.
So since then although the dogs do get off the lead to allow the old one to go at his pace and the young one to tire Himself out running round with his mates, any other dogs around and they are both in the lead.
if walking your dog in areas used by other people, you should walk your dog on a lead to ensure you can safely keep 2 metres away from others. You can find further guidance for pet owners here
And reinforced by the Dogs trust
Can I walk my dog off lead?
It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
Stopping dogs greeting each other seems a bit pointless given they stop and closely sniff every bit of piss and shit deposited by other dogs and animals.
Exactly. So why is it when you're sitting there minding your own business and a strange dog comes bounding over and shoves his nose in your face/picnic do the owners always say "Oh, he's alright".
He might be. In fact, he's probably having a whale of a time. But he's trying to cover my family with his shitty nose, the dirty little bastard, so fuck off!!!
(PS> That is said half in jest. I like dogs, but I can see why they piss people off who don't!)
When I used to run a socialisation classes for all age groups one thing that I found is peoples perception of dogs playing is a little off the mark, dogs running up and taking a cheap shot and running off is not play and needs to be dealt with and smiling saying its only a puppy is not dealing with it. Rarely like some people will a dog attack face to face, it will go for more vulnerable spots on the body, the arse end or the under belly smaller dogs are very good at this. Large breeds will try to turn the dog over, restraining the offending dog and then releasing often induces attack. For example, two guys scrapping and his mates get involved and hold him back, they let him go and it all kicks off again, they put him in a cab and its all over. I'm not saying I would have your dealt with the situation any different as I wasn't there, nor I'm saying you were wrong so please dont think that @Alwaysneil , but I would try remove my dog from any threatening situation by walking away quickly rarely will the dog follow if it starts to follow sadly a size 9 comes into play I have no qualms about protecting my dogs, putting your hands down means you run the risk of getting bitten by your own dog as it defends itself. Then if the attack persists on grabbing a good hold of the offending dog as I did when Valli was attacked and laying on top of it I released her and dealt with the dog releasing your dog with the other loose could be disasterous.
I put this video up of JJ and Valli play fighting, its all noise and teeth but all face to face but I would wager 99.9% of people would not let their dogs play with mine like Bow is.
Bowyer however at 8.5 weeks has never seen this type of and runs around almost trying to stop them, then he takes a cheap shot at Valli's tail and gets told, lesson learned. We dont have to get involved they get taught the rules by the grown ups, socialisation is so important
Thanks Ray, yes that sort of play I’m totally happy with.
I’ve previously let Wilson get into play with a bit of teeth but no longer.
I did try and leave as quickly as possible once I understood that the Jack Russell wasn’t anything we wanted to be near but the older dog is literally on his last legs (back legs nearly gone) and we can’t move very quickly.
I should have considered kicking the little shit and probably would next time.
We often see a rescue Staffie, Luna and both me and her owners know that her and Wilson will have a great time up to a point where Luna gets a bit over excited and their okay shifts up a gear into a fight where Wilson could get hurt or Luna could get hurt as Wilson defends himself.
In normal times I’d say it’s good experience for them both as they learn. Right now, both sets of owners put their dogs on leads as soon as we see each other.
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It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces
It's important to keep at least two metres apart from others and avoid situations where your dog might approach and greet other people or dogs. This means walking your dog on a lead when in areas with other people. For more information please visit https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces and www.cfsg.org.uk/coronavirus Where dogs are not used to walking on a lead, keeping their attention on you with praise and rewards can help make walks a positive experience.
You can find advice on training your dog to walk calmly on a loose lead. With less exercise, keeping your dog entertained at home is also important - check our other tips.
Stopping dogs greeting each other seems a bit pointless given they stop and closely sniff every bit of piss and shit deposited by other dogs and animals.
If there are other people with dogs about I put her back on the lead.
It's not that hard really.
Just didnt feel right to me for such a small area imo.
I agree with you that in smaller areas dogs should at this present time be kept on a lead.
As I have one very old and slow dog on his last legs and one young dog who is just an adolescent (although well trained) this seems fine as if we were all to go at old dogs pace young dog would get no exercise.
Before being aware of the advice, I should have thought about it more, the dogs were, as they normally would be, off the lead as they are both very good with other dogs and people.
However, the other day there was a Jack Russell we had not seen before off its lead. It was young. It and my young dog had some initially fine play and then the Jack Russell started to get bitey. I put my dogs on the lead and started to leave. The Jack Russell went back to the owner. She did not put her dog on the lead. ‘Oh he’s only a puppy, he’s not biting that hard, he’s just playing’.
i separated them again and had to hand over the dog and the harness to the owner thereby breaking the social distancing rules.
At this point I was very very angry but she didn’t appear to understand wither that having your dog bite other dogs isn’t acceptable as they could but back or that a lead would be a better option.
So since then although the dogs do get off the lead to allow the old one to go at his pace and the young one to tire Himself out running round with his mates, any other dogs around and they are both in the lead.
He might be. In fact, he's probably having a whale of a time. But he's trying to cover my family with his shitty nose, the dirty little bastard, so fuck off!!!
(PS> That is said half in jest. I like dogs, but I can see why they piss people off who don't!)
I'm not saying I would have your dealt with the situation any different as I wasn't there, nor I'm saying you were wrong so please dont think that @Alwaysneil , but I would try remove my dog from any threatening situation by walking away quickly rarely will the dog follow if it starts to follow sadly a size 9 comes into play I have no qualms about protecting my dogs, putting your hands down means you run the risk of getting bitten by your own dog as it defends itself. Then if the attack persists on grabbing a good hold of the offending dog as I did when Valli was attacked and laying on top of it I released her and dealt with the dog releasing your dog with the other loose could be disasterous. I put this video up of JJ and Valli play fighting, its all noise and teeth but all face to face but I would wager 99.9% of people would not let their dogs play with mine like Bow is. Bowyer however at 8.5 weeks has never seen this type of and runs around almost trying to stop them, then he takes a cheap shot at Valli's tail and gets told, lesson learned. We dont have to get involved they get taught the rules by the grown ups, socialisation is so important
In normal times I’d say it’s good experience for them both as they learn. Right now, both sets of owners put their dogs on leads as soon as we see each other.