Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.
Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.
And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas. There's more to it than that.
If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.
Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.
And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas. There's more to it than that.
If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.
Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw.
Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful. Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.
Having said all that, if you like it - good for you. 😎👍🏼
Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.
Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.
And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas. There's more to it than that.
If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.
Radio 6 too samey, radio 2, I'm not that old.
I prefer Absolute or Radio X. Although generally listen to my own stuff on you tube.
Saw Joy Division play it live three times. Unbeatable.
I saw them twice - Apparently it's sacrilege to say it, but one of the few bands I preferred recorded to live performance. In my opinion both albums and all their singles were so well produced that they could never be reproduced effectively live. That said Love Will Tear Us Apart sounded great live.
Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw.
Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful. Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.
Having said all that, if you like it - good for you. 😎👍🏼
Stick to Abba :-)
I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned. “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*” My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less. 🙂
*I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
Joy Division. NP cover was better than I was expecting. One of those songs I don't think people should cover (yes Paul Young,looking at you). I only catch Robert Elms show occasionally but I do like it. He's a fan of music and so is his audience. I've discovered quite a few things from catching it - he's not afraid to play stuff wider than most mainstream radio presenters, mixing up soul, reggae, country and rock 'n' roll. A lot of the audience are ageing soul boys who didn't like Joy Division in 1981, so I'm not at all surprised that NP's version was more popular.
Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw.
Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful. Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.
Having said all that, if you like it - good for you. 😎👍🏼
Stick to Abba :-)
I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned. “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*” My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less. 🙂
*I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
Some of this is true about people needing to be told what and what not to like. But surely you can understand why many people hate bands like Abba and don’t need to be told that?
Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw.
Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful. Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.
Having said all that, if you like it - good for you. 😎👍🏼
Stick to Abba :-)
I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned. “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*” My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less. 🙂
*I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
To be fair it probably is me, but having said that I'm generally seen as the weirdo liking Indie music & rock & previously punk.
If you talk to the average person about Stone Roses or The Smiths they wouldn't have a clue, but Abba or Take That would be much more well known.
Jesus wept I hadn’t summoned up the energy to listen to it before it truly is dire.
Same here. Just listened.
As I suspected though, it's just another in a long line of songs that have been "reinvented" by slowing and stripping them down and putting a dire, weak (normally female), vocal over the top that all sounds a bit insipid whilst trying to sound "vulnerable". Totally contrived. Totally shit.
Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.
Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.
And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas. There's more to it than that.
If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHhVydgvuAc
Radio 6 too samey, radio 2, I'm not that old.
Although generally listen to my own stuff on you tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwNYyXDn1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHXou9P-Qk
It really is so bad nothing can beat it.
"You stick around, Jack ....."
For some reason it brings back to me the movie
'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.
Why it never had a sequel
I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned.
“You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*”
My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less.
🙂
*I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
I only catch Robert Elms show occasionally but I do like it. He's a fan of music and so is his audience. I've discovered quite a few things from catching it - he's not afraid to play stuff wider than most mainstream radio presenters, mixing up soul, reggae, country and rock 'n' roll. A lot of the audience are ageing soul boys who didn't like Joy Division in 1981, so I'm not at all surprised that NP's version was more popular.
Back to covers, Rolf Harris' Stairway to Heaven wasn't great, but his Bohemian rhapsody was definitive:
If you talk to the average person about Stone Roses or The Smiths they wouldn't have a clue, but Abba or Take That would be much more well known.
That cover version is awful.
As I suspected though, it's just another in a long line of songs that have been "reinvented" by slowing and stripping them down and putting a dire, weak (normally female), vocal over the top that all sounds a bit insipid whilst trying to sound "vulnerable". Totally contrived. Totally shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb3XAP0c8WU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CowwMR1hDPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mer6X7nOY_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BY21T52oFw