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  • bobmunro said:
    DiscoCAFC said:
    I thought Gary Neville was spot on when he said Lyle Taylor should fulfill his contract. Interesting someone has gone to the PFA about this.

    It is also likely that the PFA have come to the club rather than the other way around - especially if we have informed Taylor that he isn't getting paid for June. Unless the club have proactively informed them that he is in breach of contract.
    I have to say that although the PFA are clearly representing their players' interests, as any union would do, I have always found them reasonable in my dealings with them.
    Regarding the PFA would there even be a case to answer?

    Lyle: they're refusing to pay me.
    PFA: yes but you've refused to play.
    Charlton: thank you and goodbye.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    bobmunro said:
    DiscoCAFC said:
    I thought Gary Neville was spot on when he said Lyle Taylor should fulfill his contract. Interesting someone has gone to the PFA about this.

    It is also likely that the PFA have come to the club rather than the other way around - especially if we have informed Taylor that he isn't getting paid for June. Unless the club have proactively informed them that he is in breach of contract.
    I have to say that although the PFA are clearly representing their players' interests, as any union would do, I have always found them reasonable in my dealings with them.
    Regarding the PFA would there even be a case to answer?

    Lyle: they're refusing to pay me.
    PFA: yes but you've refused to play.
    Charlton: thank you and goodbye.
    As Bowyer said on the interview, they could force him to play but then Taylor could fake an injury which players all over the place have done before

    In which case I really dont understand why Taylor didnt just claim that has happened in the first place - He'd be getting paid that way
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    He's not happy about what's going on behind the scenes and says it was much better under Roland. Thought he came across very well, he continues to impress me.
    About as damning an assessment as you can have
    'Out of the frying pan, into the fire' was an idiomatic expression made specifically for us.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Found it interesting that Lee was speaking from his home, day off from training today?
    He's been furloughed
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    He's not happy about what's going on behind the scenes and says it was much better under Roland. Thought he came across very well, he continues to impress me.
    That first bit is not a sentance I thought I'd ever read.
  • Dave2l said:
    Gnev and Carra are really good at hosting skysports and talking to people.

    Lot of respect for Gary Neville.

    Haven't seen the interview yet but it sounds interesting 
    As a football co-owner himself now, he clearly has a balanced view on the Taylor situation.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    bobmunro said:
    DiscoCAFC said:
    I thought Gary Neville was spot on when he said Lyle Taylor should fulfill his contract. Interesting someone has gone to the PFA about this.

    It is also likely that the PFA have come to the club rather than the other way around - especially if we have informed Taylor that he isn't getting paid for June. Unless the club have proactively informed them that he is in breach of contract.
    I have to say that although the PFA are clearly representing their players' interests, as any union would do, I have always found them reasonable in my dealings with them.
    Regarding the PFA would there even be a case to answer?

    Lyle: they're refusing to pay me.
    PFA: yes but you've refused to play.
    Charlton: thank you and goodbye.
    As Bowyer said on the interview, they could force him to play but then Taylor could fake an injury which players all over the place have done before

    In which case I really dont understand why Taylor didnt just claim that has happened in the first place - He'd be getting paid that way
    It could be said that at least Taylor is being honest. Anyway his honesty should mean that he's not paid from the day he stated that he would no longer be playing for CAFC.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    bobmunro said:
    DiscoCAFC said:
    I thought Gary Neville was spot on when he said Lyle Taylor should fulfill his contract. Interesting someone has gone to the PFA about this.

    It is also likely that the PFA have come to the club rather than the other way around - especially if we have informed Taylor that he isn't getting paid for June. Unless the club have proactively informed them that he is in breach of contract.
    I have to say that although the PFA are clearly representing their players' interests, as any union would do, I have always found them reasonable in my dealings with them.
    Regarding the PFA would there even be a case to answer?

    Lyle: they're refusing to pay me.
    PFA: yes but you've refused to play.
    Charlton: thank you and goodbye.
    As Bowyer said on the interview, they could force him to play but then Taylor could fake an injury which players all over the place have done before

    In which case I really dont understand why Taylor didnt just claim that has happened in the first place - He'd be getting paid that way
    Probably didn't want all those clubs coming in for him to think he's even more injury prone, and put them off. 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Macronate said:
    Excellent, now talking about Leeds.
    Lee is one of those people you could listen to for a while talking about his Football career

    But no surprise, its Sky Sports Leeds after all

    Didnt realise he was ever linked to Liverpool though, let alone almost signing for them
    Think it was for £9m or £14m and we were due a hefty sell on but bizarrely I might be getting that confused with Michael Turner, at some point there was talk of him going there , I’m wibble so Prolly completely wrong 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    I honestly wonder how much longer he will put up with it all.
    Probably till an offer that suits him comes along ! 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    Don't you think by not playing for us he is helping our rivals? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    edited June 2020
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    Don't you think by not playing for us he is helping our rivals? 
    No but at least he's not going to be on the pitch for any of our rivals

    Bowyer said on this interview that he'll use it to galvinise our players, he builds a team that trusts and supports each other and two of them have broken that

    If I was one of those players I'd respect the choices made but I'd also feel let down and would want to prove them wrong

    Imagine there are a few players in that team with that feeling too
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    Don't you think by not playing for us he is helping our rivals? 
    No but at least he's not going to be on the pitch for any of our rivals

    Bowyer said on this interview that he'll use it to galvinise our players, he builds a team that trusts and supports each other and two of them have broken that

    If I was one of those players I'd respect the choices made but I'd also feel let down and would want to prove them wrong

    Imagine there are a few players in that team with that feeling too
    I certainly agree that it may motivate the remaining players. Great chance for Bonne, Hemed or Aneke to do the business. Maybe even Davison. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    But he can not help us which could benefit them
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    Bow interview on again on the 4pm show
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    But he can not help us which could benefit them
    But thats happening anyway...
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    I hope we don't discover that he is joining a club who are our relegation rivals. 
    Wont matter... He cant help them this season
    But he can not help us which could benefit them
    But thats happening anyway...
    It's even worse if he goes to relegation rival as it coul dbe he refused to play to benefit them
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
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  • aliwibble said:
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
    If you have Sky you are able to download the show.
  • _MrDick said:
    Found it interesting that Lee was speaking from his home, day off from training today?
    He’s refusing to manage until we’re out of Lockdown. Been advised to do so by Lyle Taylor’s agent. 
    You have to understand his position. He has the opportunity of the Leeds job and to risk tripping over Bielsa's Bucket on the last day just isn't worth it. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited June 2020
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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    aliwibble said:
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
    If you have Sky you are able to download the show.
    I don't, that's why I asked.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    aliwibble said:
    aliwibble said:
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
    If you have Sky you are able to download the show.
    I don't, that's why I asked.
    Seem they put clips up on YouTube as the Jack Grealish interview from yesterday is up on there

    They might put the rest up
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    He's not happy about what's going on behind the scenes and says it was much better under Roland. Thought he came across very well, he continues to impress me.
    Bowyer has said in the past that the good thing about Roland's ownership, was that he left Bows to manage.

    In other words, Bows had a degree of autonomy to organise and run things his way .... without interference from Roland.

    Bows was very happy with that, despite the limitations of budget and the effect on squad building. Much less so with Southall and ESI - and he has said as much about his frustrations with that at some point recently.


  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 378
    Oggy Red said:
    He's not happy about what's going on behind the scenes and says it was much better under Roland. Thought he came across very well, he continues to impress me.
    Bowyer has said in the past that the good thing about Roland's ownership, was that he left Bows to manage.

    In other words, Bows had a degree of autonomy to organise and run things his way .... without interference from Roland.

    Bows was very happy with that, despite the limitations of budget and the effect on squad building. Much less so with Southall and ESI - and he has said as much about his frustrations with that at some point recently.


    It's a pity the Belgian muppet didn't leave Chris Powell to manage.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,449
    aliwibble said:
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdsGTmrgz5s
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,865
    clive said:
    aliwibble said:
    Does anyone have clips of this anywhere?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdsGTmrgz5s

    Neville asked good questions and was surprised and confused about the fact that Taylor won't see out his contract. Seemed a tad pissed off.

    Good.

    All Taylor has done here is just shoot himself in the foot.

    He has mentally injured himself and there's no way back.

    It's now doubtful that the fans of his new club will warm to him. They will know about this. Will they trust him and respect him?

    Unless of course, he signs for Millwall.


  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    I tried to make this point yesterday, but this comment on Youtube from under the Bowyer interview video sums it up better than I did:

    "Thing that bothers me most on Lyle Taylor is that there are loads of people, players yes, but particularly staff, whose jobs will depend on us staying in the Championship, and he won’t do his job, which could save theirs."