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Why does your offspring not support Charlton?

oohaahmortimer
oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,179
in General Charlton
Rob Elliot , Charlton fan  saying his kids are Geordie fans prompted me on this .
I can understand it with him being their player etc 

I know there are a few on here (not including the scum or palarse fans ) whose kids support other clubs and can understand if children live with the other parent and that side of the family get the child to support another team .
I like to consider myself fairly reasonable in general but where football is concerned there is no rationale and no child of mine was ever gonna be allowed to support another team.
The youngest has a Barca kit , father in law bought for him but he get’s palace’d off and abused when he wears it and they all (4 boys ) know it’s Charlton and no one else .
Do we like so and so dad , no we only like Charlton and we hate murrrrr (the M word is banned in our house )
I have one son not in to footy , motor racing geek but he still wears a Charlton kit and comes to the odd game .
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  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,826
    I converted from the darkside.
    Over 10 family members are palace , me i managed to get away.
    For all the pain id rather us in the conference than support that shit.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,642
    I'm Charlton because of my dad, I came home when I was 6 and said "I'm gonna support Arsenal" he said "not in this house you're not" took me to my first game that weekend. 

    Not an option for me and thank god, for all the pain, supporting the Charlton is absolutely the best thing in the world... 
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    My eldest daughter is a Charlton supporter & used to come with me until she moved away. Alas my youngest one supports the spuds because she had a crush on Gary Lineker when she was younger.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    My daughter has absolutely no interest in football whatsoever. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    Didn’t get a choice. It was Charlton or the highway. Wouldn’t change it for the world as both parents, brothers, cousins & uncle all support Charlton.

    I was fortunate as Charlton were top side when I was growing up. Finishing top 10 in premier league was easy to defend myself in the playground when being mocked by glory hunters. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Fraid I have to agree with that.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    edited June 2020
    Big_Bad_World said:
    If your children support anyone other than who you support then you've failed as a parent.

    I absolutely agree!
    Reminds me of the story of when I took my two to their first game at The Valley (apologies as I think I've told this story on more than one occasion on here!). Boxing Day against Norwich in 1997 - my two were 6 and 8 and had been talking about very little else in the weeks leading up to Christmas but I was aware that their mates at their football club supported a variety of other teams - Newcastle at the time was a very popular choice mainly because of Shearer.
    We left home (in Kent) early and got to The Valley around 11.00 for a 12.30 kick-off. As we walked to The Valley from the car they were getting more and more excited, but as we approached the turnstiles I turned to them both and said that if they walk through those turnstiles they are committing to supporting Charlton all their lives - and if they didn't want to make that commitment then we could turn around and walk back to the car, allowing them to choose whatever team they wanted to support. No surprise what happened and my manipulative behaviour worked a treat! We won 2-1 which helped!
    They came over last Sunday for Father's Day and one of my presents was the programme from that game that my youngest had sourced online :)
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,057
    My youngest son has no choice, his middle name is Charlton.

    The eldest one is a manure glory hunter (not much glory at the moment haha) but still comes to Charlton games.

    They are both in their thirties and at least the younger one will get everything when we kick the bucket. Only joking Gary. 

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  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,358
    edited June 2020
    I’m the end of a line that goes back to my great grandparents. I sense that my two girls humour me on the rare occasions I talk about Charlton with them.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,767
    edited June 2020
    My Eldest (17) is a Charlton fan and has never wavered  despite nearly everyone up here being Arsenal fans but my youngest (14) supports Manchester United like his Grandparents. He does come to Charlton sometimes and came to Wembley but he doesn't like saying he likes Charlton.  He is called Sam , named after Sam Bartram. 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,902
    I had an ingenious plan and it worked.

    When my son was 6, I took him to the New Zealand friendly at The Valley for his first “big” game.

    “We’re playing an entire country today son, not just a piddling town or city”.

    He must’ve been impressed because from that game on, it has only been Charlton.

    Actually, looking back, what an awful father I was, cajoling him into supporting CAFC.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,850
    My eldest is 10 years older than his brother (who is Charlton) and was a United supporter 'til me telling him that it was shameful that he was supporting a team hundreds of miles away just because they kept winning things finally got to him. I impressed upon the fact that it is far better to support a side nearer to where you come from even if it means sacrificing the glory.

    He's been a Welling United supporter ever since.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,355
    thai malaysia addick said:
    I’m the end of a line that goes back to my great grandparents. I sense that my two girls humour me on the rare occasions I talk about Charlton with them.
    That’s sad. My boys are Millwall as well as my brothers and their kids. Plus extended family as well. It’s something we’ll always have that connects us. When I go to Millwall with my dad and my boys there’s three generations of Millwall support there (my dads been going for over 60 years) and it’s special. 

  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    My daughters 'support' Charlton and @Len\'s_little_girl is still a season ticket holder despite being abroad most of the time. In 'normal' circumstances she gets back for as many games as she can. The other two came when they were younger and one came to Wembley with us (the other would have done but was on holiday pre arranged).

    It will be a harder job getting my grandsons interested I think. Given the heartache we are going through at the moment I sometimes think I should leave well alone and let them chart their own course. I won't though!
  • Eric_Dales
    Eric_Dales Posts: 412
    I managed to steer my nephew to the valley where he is now a season ticket holder out of the clutches of a Millwall supporting father and a stripey nigel uncle.

    Christmas gatherings I still get the daggers!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,344
    MillwallFan said:
    thai malaysia addick said:
    I’m the end of a line that goes back to my great grandparents. I sense that my two girls humour me on the rare occasions I talk about Charlton with them.
    That’s sad. My boys are Millwall as well as my brothers and their kids. Plus extended family as well. It’s something we’ll always have that connects us. When I go to Millwall with my dad and my boys there’s three generations of Millwall support there (my dads been going for over 60 years) and it’s special. 

    Condolences 
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,623
    Sadly neither my daughter or son like football - my daughter has been to some matches and enjoyed the atmosphere (her last game was when we played Hartlepool and the away fans dressed as Smurfs and the Red Devil’s parachuted into the Valley and we were crowned League 1 champs - I think the only way I could have topped that was if she came to Wembley May last year, which she would have hadn’t she been in Crete) - my son has no interest, cricket and Formula 1 are his sports - I don’t mind, as you can’t force them to like a sport - however if they did like football, they wouldn’t have had any opportunity other than to support Charlton (just like my Dad did to me in 1976 😊)

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  • Numbers
    Numbers Posts: 834
    edited June 2020
    There was no way my kids would be supporting anyone else. The brainwashing starts early, the badge on mats, cups and pint glasses etc.  The replica shirts, going regularly/all home games, add in a few aways and then along comes a sunny day at Wembley with a last minute winner and my job is complete. It's in their blood, forever. It was never going to be anyone else
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,832
    edited June 2020
    Charlton are an albatross but one that you cannot bring yourself to turn your back on despite every ounce of rationality and logic screaming that it would be the right thing to do for your happiness.  Supporting them is 99% misery, frustration and disappointment, punctuated by the odd once or twice a decade event that bring a sheer and unrivalled joy that I don't suspect fans of big, fashionable clubs can ever truly experience. And what joy that is....

    Charlton Athletic 2-1 Sunderland League One play-off final as


    For all the rivalry I have more respect for fans who support their local/ family clubs like Millwall and Palace than someone from a non related area with no roots or family links proclaiming they're a follower of the more glamorous institutions.

     Same as those who support the likes of Watford, Fulham, lower league clubs etc.

    I can engage with these people in a way about football that I could talk to them for hours and empathise whereas as soon as someone with a southern accent mentions they support united or Liverpool or a South Londoner or Kenter proclaiming they're Arsenal or Chelsea I will have the odd level of chit chat but will never see them as credible as someone who is truly part of the fabric of the club.  Inverted snobbery in that sense but that's the way I see it.  They are not an equal.

    In that sense as the kids get older they will be indoctrinated into the weird miserable cult that is supporting a club like ours and become the 4th generation of my family to suffer it. 

    It is character building and every time a Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or other big club fan mocks you for supporting silly little irrelevant Charlton I laugh inside because the irony is that their "support" for those clubs is entirely superficial, baseless and arbitrary.  It is very unlikely proper, rooted supporters of those big clubs ever deride you for supporting the Charltons in my experience, (mainly the Sky Sports fanboys whose views on football,(and well, anything in life to be fair), are not worth a toss and I expect they also roll their eyes at the bandwagon jumping plastics that rock up at their club.

    Supporting a club for life like Charlton is a commitment, a vocation, a tradition that is passed down through the generations like some unwelcome genetic quirk, incurable by modern science.

    A cross to bear. But a blessing all the same.

     It's unfashionable and, at times downright depressing, but is character- building and meaningful and gives you a sense of soul, belonging and ingraining into the very fabric of the club that many of the big club sneerers will never ever understand or live regardless of how much "Official Club Merchandise", sky subscriptions, stadium tours and birthday trips to games they immerse themselves in in a subconcious attempt to validate their choice and make it as bona fide as those who flock to the Valley, Selhurst, The Den and countless other off the beaten track footballing destinations.  It will never be as authentic, heartfelt or deeply passionate.

    That is why I'll be ensuring the family curse is passed on with great vigour.  (Starting with turning off netflix in an hour and insisting they watch a jumpy stream of "their team" play out some very mediocre football against a similarly unfashionable but much treasured QPR).

    If they follow anyone else (not talking about the youthful flirtations of "supporting" a big club for a week or two as many of us did as kids now and then) then I will be truly disappointed as it won't just be me losing out on the father and daughter/son bonding experiences I've looked forward to for years...but I think in a big way they will miss out too in what it does for your character and identity.


    Ultimately they can do what they want, increasingly so in this softly softly namby pamby "don't ever upset your children" world we now inhabit but I for one will not be partaking in any such nonsense as buying them any other clubs gear or taking them anyone else if they stray from the righteous path let alone entertaining it.

    If I've had to suffer it for 40 years then they bloody well can too.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,913
    my boys are solid charlton now but they both flirted with a bit of liverpool and wwe wrestling when younger!!! my youngest refused to go for a few years saying we were rubbish (couldn't argue) but he now goes home and away - i've got a mate who lives in hayes - he's spurs and his boys class are mainly palace but his boy and his boys mates all go charlton and love it - its a great wind up.   
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,642
    bobmunro said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    If your children support anyone other than who you support then you've failed as a parent.

    I absolutely agree!
    Reminds me of the story of when I took my two to their first game at The Valley (apologies as I think I've told this story on more than one occasion on here!). Boxing Day against Norwich in 1997 - my two were 6 and 8 and had been talking about very little else in the weeks leading up to Christmas but I was aware that their mates at their football club supported a variety of other teams - Newcastle at the time was a very popular choice mainly because of Shearer.
    We left home (in Kent) early and got to The Valley around 11.00 for a 12.30 kick-off. As we walked to The Valley from the car they were getting more and more excited, but as we approached the turnstiles I turned to them both and said that if they walk through those turnstiles they are committing to supporting Charlton all their lives - and if they didn't want to make that commitment then we could turn around and walk back to the car, allowing them to choose whatever team they wanted to support. No surprise what happened and my manipulative behaviour worked a treat! We won 2-1 which helped!
    They came over last Sunday for Father's Day and one of my presents was the programme from that game that my youngest had sourced online :)
    Love that 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Big_Bad_World said:
    If your children support anyone other than who you support then you've failed as a parent.
    Most definitely. My Dad ruined my life by taking me to Charlton and I have followed suit and ruined my 3 sons lives (although one doesn’t go to games anymore). My Daughter is getting the same punishment when she is old enough. I hope one day they all ruin their own children’s lives as well. It makes me feel like I’m sharing the burden. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,979
    I hope nobody from the NSPCC ever sees this thread.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,913
    my dad got us all into it after his dad and uncles etc did him - when i was sort of 14-16ish i used to go to milllwall when charlton were away with my mates, must have been a worrying time for him!!! Funny thing is, my dad was much happier and more stress free when there was no charlton for a few months - he's now a bundle of berves again - does make you wonder why we all bother - fortunately it doesn't get me like that anymore so much although i will be pacing up and down if we are one up with 5 to go. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,286
    My grandad was a Charlton fan, my dad is a Charlton fan, me, my brother and sister are Charlton fans, my 2 are Charlton fans, my brothers 2 are Charlton fans.  Like you oohhaahh, I think I am reasonable generally but when it comes to Charlton, there is no choice.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,045
    southamptonaddick said:
    My youngest son has no choice, his middle name is Charlton.

    The eldest one is a manure glory hunter (not much glory at the moment haha) but still comes to Charlton games.

    They are both in their thirties and at least the younger one will get everything when we kick the bucket. Only joking Gary. 
    Please tell me his first name is Rodney.
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    edited June 2020
    I've got 2 girls that hate football unfortunately, but my brother has two boys, youngest of which was a good little player too, he trained with a chelsea foundation one day and they gave him a chelsea ball to keep! When he got home and told his dad he now supported chelsea, my brother took him into the garden and did a "Av' it" with the ball over the garden fence! (Peter Kay advert!)
    He then made him paint CAFC on the garden fence in 4foot high letters! (They were going to paint the fence anyway!) Billy is still a Charlton fan now!

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