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Positives of relegation

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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    edited July 2020
    Able to park nearer the ground.
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    Able to park nearer the to buy a flat in the ground within the next few years.

  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,993
    The only positive I can see is that the asking price could be lower and we could be rescued from this shit show. I don’t think there is any other positive to be taken. Bowyer and Co worked so hard to get out of the dire division that we will be playing in next season.  We have to do it all again, and the it looks like without Bowyer. 
    Think you'll find that Roland still wants £50m for the stadium and training ground. None of us know how he's come up with this figure, but us getting relegated doesn't make the land worth any less in his crazy mind. The football club doesn't hold any value, it's just buying responsibility for our financial obligations, so relegation just makes it easier for another cowboy to buy us for a pound. Staring into the abyss right now. There's zero positives. We'll be lucky if we've still got a club to support this time next year.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,904
    Social distancing won’t be a problem at The Valley.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,228
    Anyone who wants a ticket - wherever - will get one with or without social distancing
  • This has set the club back 5 - 10 years at least,that is if we can come back.

    League one won’t be a piece of cake, and we’re going to end up with crapper loanees and a team of freebies and kids.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,409
    I can't see a single positive in this. I wish I felt otherwise but overall we seem to be an even bigger mess than we were when Miere and her shitshow was in town
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,621
    This has set the club back 5 - 10 years at least,that is if we can come back.

    League one won’t be a piece of cake, and we’re going to end up with crapper loanees and a team of freebies and kids.
    Piece of cake? We’ll struggle to stay up with the money we haven’t got
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,626
    Really are no positives from what I can see
  • church-lane
    church-lane Posts: 935
    Next year will be my 50th as a Charlton fan. I've seen some shite with a few good times here and there. I can honestly say that I've never felt as low re. the club as I do now. May be time for a break and maybe I'll be back to see out my my 50th year. Maybe not.

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,070
    This has set the club back 5 - 10 years at least,that is if we can come back.

    League one won’t be a piece of cake, and we’re going to end up with crapper loanees and a team of freebies and kids.
    Piece of cake? We’ll struggle to stay up with the money we haven’t got
    I honestly think you’re right - how many senior players (I.e with two years or more first team experience under their belt) are in contract for next season? 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,869
    We don’t even get a jolly up at Saffend :-( 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    We don’t even get a jolly up at Saffend :-( 
    But we do get the dreamteam of Gillingham and Steve Evans...doesn't get much more depressing than that
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,345
    Swisdom said:
    erm...Roland doesn't get £1.5m
    Rumour is we get more than £2.5m for Karlan and remember what we did with Mr Powell when we were in League 1...he build an entire team on the Carl Jenkinson money of £2.4m

    Aside from that there obviously aren't many positives but I would like to think it's just another chapter in the Charlton story we all know and love (or hate)

    Critical that we know who is staying and who is going as soon as possible.
    Critical we know who owns us and their plans for us.

    For those at the club I doubt there is time for a holiday - next season starts now

    See you all next season....thankfully it all starts soon so we won't have to wait too long to get a football fix
    The chances of us spending ANY of the Grant money on new players or the current squad are less than zero
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    No positives.

    The owners of ESI 1 and ESI 2 are the same group of vultures but with different front men.

    They will sell off any players they can and pay themselves or their business partners as much as they can get away with (Essentially do a Southall). Legit bills will not be paid and someone will force us into admin.

    Only then can we hope that the club is sold to a legit owner but that will only happen if the Valley becomes part of the deal. I think that unlikely as Duche is deluded and if the club didn't exist any more he might think it would help him sell the ground on for housing development.

    Happy for this post to be laughed at in the weeks, months and years to come as I'm proven completely wrong. 

    No positives.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,264
    There are no positives to a relegation, none 

    Even more so when this one could have been so easily avoided if the management were backed by the owners, whoever they are this week. That is where any anger should be squarely pointed, shitarse and the new bunch of nonces.

    Relegation is awful and this one especially so 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,947
    Brutally, if Roland hadn't sold us to ESI we would have stayed up, as however bad he was, they made it far far worse. 

    That's what makes this season so hard to take
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,252
    Unless you’re looking forward to giving Chris Solly some stick when we’re playing Gillingham, there’s just no positives at all sadly.
  • Unless you’re looking forward to giving Chris Solly some stick when we’re playing Gillingham, there’s just no positives at all sadly.
    I think I’ll give that game a swerve for that exact reason, doesn’t do us or him any good.
  • alicwkd
    alicwkd Posts: 374
    Portsmouth away is always good fun. 

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  • alicwkd
    alicwkd Posts: 374
    Also, we will have some very canny players at league 1 level who will hopefully stay;

    Aneke
    Bonne
    Oztumer
    Morgan
    Davison
    Lapslie
    Lockyer 
    Pearce

    Even better if we keep hold of Phillips, Sarr, Matthews, Williams and Doughty but could see them getting better offers. 


  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    Wembley again next May
  • alicwkd said:
    Also, we will have some very canny players at league 1 level who will hopefully stay;

    Aneke
    Bonne
    Oztumer
    Morgan
    Davison
    Lapslie
    Lockyer 
    Pearce

    Even better if we keep hold of Phillips, Sarr, Matthews, Williams and Doughty but could see them getting better offers. 


    Any offer they get will be better seeing as we can't offer them new deals because of our embargo.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,769
    edited July 2020
    We have leeches feeding on us in plain sight. Any money coming in for Grant is just going to be sucked up by them as Fosu money paid for their lifestyle. I feel sorry for criminals in this country as there are more morally bankrupt crooks who can seem to steal without punishment. And if the EFL decides to sanction the club for their actions they go off with the money they have legally stolen and the fans take the hit. ESI are like the pension pot stealers in the adverts.  
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,649
    The positives are we are unlikely to go down, which again gives us a chance to get rid of the cancer that is Roland .... 

    I wouldn't mind going down to league 2 if it got rid of him, he is the thing that is killing the club, everything stems from that, decent owners seem impossible to secure nowadays ... 

    So whatever division we play in we lose money, so , as usual we need someone with deep pockets to accept very real loses, for a very real length of years, hard to find. 

    The numbness this time round comes from the fact, I don't think I'd have been jumping for joy if we had stayed up, there is so much uncertainty, it's not even possible to feel happiness as everything seems temporary and everything feels as if there can be no actual opportunities until Roland has gone and someone who isn't a total f*** is owning the company. 


  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,891
    alicwkd said:
    Also, we will have some very canny players at league 1 level who will hopefully stay;

    Aneke
    Bonne
    Oztumer
    Morgan
    Davison
    Lapslie
    Lockyer 
    Pearce

    Even better if we keep hold of Phillips, Sarr, Matthews, Williams and Doughty but could see them getting better offers. 


    Any offer they get will be better seeing as we can't offer them new deals because of our embargo.
    Surly this can’t be legal. We are effectively taking jobs away on the efl say so. I get the embargo on new signings but really can’t get my head around this.
  • alicwkd said:
    Also, we will have some very canny players at league 1 level who will hopefully stay;

    Aneke
    Bonne
    Oztumer
    Morgan
    Davison
    Lapslie
    Lockyer 
    Pearce

    Even better if we keep hold of Phillips, Sarr, Matthews, Williams and Doughty but could see them getting better offers. 


    Any offer they get will be better seeing as we can't offer them new deals because of our embargo.
    Surly this can’t be legal. We are effectively taking jobs away on the efl say so. I get the embargo on new signings but really can’t get my head around this.
    I agree. Must admit i thought we were able to sign players as long as the contract value wasn't an increase on the existing one. But from what Bowyer said the other day, that doesn't seem to be the case.

    You'd assume the EFL would have to sanction some signings as we surely can't start a season with 10 senior players. Even Bolton were able to make signings.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,236
    edited July 2020
    Off_it said:
    There are no positives. None.

    Agreed.
    Unless it's a positive that we won't have a record low points total in the Championship in 20/21.

    We are in real danger of following Bolton and Coventry in their multi relegations after poor stewardship.
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,447
    Next year will be my 50th as a Charlton fan. I've seen some shite with a few good times here and there. I can honestly say that I've never felt as low re. the club as I do now. May be time for a break and maybe I'll be back to see out my my 50th year. Maybe not.
    Keep the faith mate. We will rise again. Charlton is like the algae on my patio, just won’t fcking die and always comes back! 
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,265
    RD is a year older.