Rising steadily but no Charlton areas showing on the map as we need 300 for that. Wigan and Manchester are currently the only highlight districts. Though Bexley and Sidcup is getting near, another 83 is needed: We need to get to 300 to turn yellow to orange in each area.
Looks like at least 1 for every constituency in the country 😀
I thought this would get much more support in some areas. South Wales has really low uptake. For example, Swansea East 3 signatories, and Swansea West 6, which surprised me as they have an historically active trust. The North East round Sunderland and Newcastle is up for it and giving us a run for our money in numbers.
Clearly a lot of trusts are unaware or not promoting it. I checked out the FSA website and they ran a story in mid July when the petition was started but now it's tucked away. Their main and most recent news story is from yesterday about Newcastle United, but they do have an article from 31st July where us (and the petition) is covered-
Let's not be thinking the EFL are suddenly any more competent just because they have rejected 3 ESI directors today. They have taken too long, not given us info as to who or any detail and have allowed a 2 week appeal. This petition needs to stay alive and we need Charlton's main fan areas to show on the map so i hope we can keep promoting it and get others signing it too.
Let's not be thinking the EFL are suddenly any more competent just because they have rejected 3 ESI directors today. They have taken too long, not given us info as to who or any detail and have allowed a 2 week appeal. This petition needs to stay alive and we need Charlton's main fan areas to show on the map so i hope we can keep promoting it and get others signing it too.
23,206 now nationwide. All Charlton areas rising but very slowly. Going to need a couple more areas at least, in addition of Bexley and Sidcup, for us to show on the map with Wigan.
For what it is worth, the Government has made its response (mandatory to do so when petition exceeded 10,000 signatures). It is now on 29,488 signatures. 100,000 needed for it to be considered for a debate. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589 Government respondedThis response was given on 10 August 2020Football clubs have a unique social value; it is vital they are protected. The Government has committed to a fan-led review of governance that includes consideration of the Owners’ & Directors’ Test.Wigan Athletic is a club with a rich history and of great importance to the local community.The Government is aware of the serious allegations that have surfaced around the club and we will continue to engage with the English Football League (EFL) to fully understand the facts of the case as they emerge.The Government has committed to a fan-led review of football governance, which will include consideration of the Owners’ and Directors’ Test. We will engage with all the football authorities, including the EFL, during this review.The Government is currently deciding on the scope and structure of the review but can confirm that engagement with fan groups will be central to the review process. It is vital that fans’ perspectives and interests are at the heart of the review.Department for Digital, Culture, Media and SportAt 100,000 signatures...At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in ParliamentShare this petitionFacebookEmailTwitterCreated byMichael WimseyDeadline21 January 2021All petitions run for 6 monthsGet petition data (json format) About petition data
"we will continue to engage with the English Football League (EFL) to fully understand the facts of the case as they emerge".
I wonder what the extent and quality of this engagement is? Even when they are saying the right things, I don't feel confident that anything positive will happen.
The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Review the need for a statutory owners and Directors Test in Football”.
Government responded:
Football clubs have a unique social value; it is vital they are protected. The Government has committed to a fan-led review of governance that includes consideration of the Owners’ & Directors’ Test.
Wigan Athletic is a club with a rich history and of great importance to the local community.
The Government is aware of the serious allegations that have surfaced around the club and we will continue to engage with the English Football League (EFL) to fully understand the facts of the case as they emerge.
The Government has committed to a fan-led review of football governance, which will include consideration of the Owners’ and Directors’ Test. We will engage with all the football authorities, including the EFL, during this review.
The Government is currently deciding on the scope and structure of the review but can confirm that engagement with fan groups will be central to the review process. It is vital that fans’ perspectives and interests are at the heart of the review.
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Over 30,000 signed now. Just 12 more needed in Bexleyheath/ Crayford/ Welling to turn that area to gold.
At the moment Tyneside (NUFC) showing second most signatories after Wigan and what have they got to complain about?!
Their takeover that didn’t go through...
I was being facetious. Technically speaking their test would have been done under PL and not EFL admin, but any support for this petition is a good thing.
A classic case of "I'm alright Jack!" and also why nothing will ever change in English football. 10 years down the line how many football clubs will have gone to the wall.
A classic case of "I'm alright Jack!" and also why nothing will ever change in English football. 10 years down the line how many football clubs will have gone to the wall.
About the same number who, like Wigan fans, try to do something about it for the good of others unknowingly following the same path - but only to find they don't get the wider support they need and deserve.
The ancient Egyptians had the sense to build their pyramids on bedrock - the football pyramid is built on quicksand.
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Now at 22,300. -
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589
Rising steadily but no Charlton areas showing on the map as we need 300 for that. Wigan and Manchester are currently the only highlight districts. Though Bexley and Sidcup is getting near, another 83 is needed:
We need to get to 300 to turn yellow to orange in each area.
Old Bexley and Sidcup 217
Eltham 192
Bexleyheath & Crayford 189
Greenwich and Woolwich 167
Dartford 164
Erith & Thamesmead 135
Orpington 108
Sevenoaks 102
Bromley & Chislehurst 90
Lewisham East 73
Gravesham 71
Rochester & Strood 68
Tonbridge and Malling 63
Beckenham 54
Lewisham & Deptford 42
Dulwich and West Norwood 24https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589
https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=331589&area=uk
Clearly a lot of trusts are unaware or not promoting it. I checked out the FSA website and they ran a story in mid July when the petition was started but now it's tucked away. Their main and most recent news story is from yesterday about Newcastle United, but they do have an article from 31st July where us (and the petition) is covered-
https://thefsa.org.uk/news/clubs-in-crisis-guidance-for-fans/
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589
Could someone bump on the other forum? It has fallen half way down page 2 there? @DiscoCAFC @dickplumb?
I thought it would get to the 100,000 signatures pretty fast but seems its going to creep slowly.
Ive passed on to an Orient mate to get his lot to get signing...not many signatures on the map over the water.
On the "% of constituents" version of the map (but not yet on "no. of signatures"), Old Bexley & Sidcup has changed colour - gold star to you all!
Where are you ?
Let's be 'avin you!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589
It is now on 29,488 signatures. 100,000 needed for it to be considered for a debate.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/331589
Government respondedThis response was given on 10 August 2020Football clubs have a unique social value; it is vital they are protected. The Government has committed to a fan-led review of governance that includes consideration of the Owners’ & Directors’ Test.Wigan Athletic is a club with a rich history and of great importance to the local community.The Government is aware of the serious allegations that have surfaced around the club and we will continue to engage with the English Football League (EFL) to fully understand the facts of the case as they emerge.The Government has committed to a fan-led review of football governance, which will include consideration of the Owners’ and Directors’ Test. We will engage with all the football authorities, including the EFL, during this review.The Government is currently deciding on the scope and structure of the review but can confirm that engagement with fan groups will be central to the review process. It is vital that fans’ perspectives and interests are at the heart of the review.Department for Digital, Culture, Media and SportAt 100,000 signatures...At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in ParliamentShare this petitionFacebookEmailTwitterCreated byMichael WimseyDeadline21 January 2021All petitions run for 6 monthsGet petition data (json format) About petition data
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I wonder what the extent and quality of this engagement is? Even when they are saying the right things, I don't feel confident that anything positive will happen.
Just 12 more needed in Bexleyheath/ Crayford/ Welling to turn that area to gold.
At the moment Tyneside (NUFC) showing second most signatories after Wigan and what have they got to complain about?!
Sadly this doesn't look like it is going to make a 100,000 signatures but would be good to get a few more.
The ancient Egyptians had the sense to build their pyramids on bedrock - the football pyramid is built on quicksand.