Personally I'm hoping LB stays with us and gets some backing (dreaming again) , but if we did go after EH that would require a dramatic up turn in our fortunes.
I think it's safe to say Howe will not be managing us next season.
I think LB talking to whoever the owners are will be quite revealing. If he stays after the talks surely he will have seen some proof of what they are planning. I cant see him listening to a load of bollocks without being shown proof. Alternatively if he walks then I think that will be confirmation of our fears
Proof? I would not believe these people if they said tomorrow was Monday.
I think LB talking to whoever the owners are will be quite revealing. If he stays after the talks surely he will have seen some proof of what they are planning. I cant see him listening to a load of bollocks without being shown proof. Alternatively if he walks then I think that will be confirmation of our fears
On the contrary. I trust Bowyer's integrity. If he hears terrible news from the owners that we are going under, he MIGHT just stay to the end. After all he's our ships Captain and if it goes down, like all respected Captain's, you stay aboard. He's not here for the money and certainly not the kudos. He's one of us. If we're hurting, we know he is too. He knows he's wanted by thousands of ordinary people. He's staying until he is pushed (I hope).
For Bowyer to walk, he either needs somewhere to walk to or he decides to walk out of management. For me he deserves immense credit for actually building a side that could survive and getting us in a position after the QPR home game, where we would have to have cocked it up not to survive. By implication, I believe he did cock it up from that point, but a lot of managers probably wouldn't have had anything they could cock up.
The upshot of this is though, I can't see how any decently sized Championship club would want him yet. League One, absolutely, but he has that with us. We shouldn't forget that he is an inexperienced manager and if he learns from his errors, he could go right to the top. I'm not a fan of he is MR Charlton and can do no wrong attitudes though. Look at what the evidence shows and judge on that. For me, he is well in credit and I would like him to be managing us next season. But I hope he learns from mistakes I am sure he made.
To suggest that Bowyer might walk away from the game wildly underestimates his resolve. And to suggest he 'walks' for the sake of his health and his family is merely patronising!
As a manager, Bowyer is an extension of the man as a player: wily, tough, and always up for it. He will have relished pitting his wits against more experienced managers and better teams this season. I like him: he is forward-looking (literally, playing two up front) and sanguine. He is the right man for us.
Yet doubtless he has personal and professional ambitions as a manager that take him far above the third division. It's a relief that the Birmingham and Bristol City jobs have been filled. We breathe again.
That Bowyer hasn't resigned already shows he still has a strong attachment to the job, unless he was hanging on to see what happened with Sheffield Wednesday
To suggest that Bowyer might walk away from the game wildly underestimates his resolve. And to suggest he 'walks' for the sake of his health and his family is merely patronising!
As a manager, Bowyer is an extension of the man as a player: wily, tough, and always up for it. He will have relished pitting his wits against more experienced managers and better teams this season. I like him: he is forward-looking (literally, playing two up front) and sanguine. He is the right man for us.
Yet doubtless he has personal and professional ambitions as a manager that take him far above the third division. It's a relief that the Birmingham and Bristol City jobs have been filled. We breathe again.
Why would he necessarily have big ambitions as a manager? He had walked away from the game and made no effort to get into coaching/managing. He only got involved when asked to help out here. He may have got the taste for being in football again, and for what he's done at Charlton. But that"s not the same as having ambitions.
From his comments on Williams staying it sounds like Bows isn't going anywhere.
To be fair he's got 2.5 years left on his deal
Why resign when he could get sacked and get the compensation if things dont go the way the owners expect them to
I took nothing from that interview to say that Bows, himself, was staying. Given that the clip is issued by the club and given that Lee is a very open and honest guy, they would have been falling over themselves to tell us, categorically, that Lee was staying. For me, the silence on the matter of Lee’s intentions was deafening. They know we are all concerned about Lee leaving and that we know he was meeting with the ‘owner’ in the early part of this week (noting we are now past that point) and yet nothing said? Doesn’t look too positive, does it?
From his comments on Williams staying it sounds like Bows isn't going anywhere.
To be fair he's got 2.5 years left on his deal
Why resign when he could get sacked and get the compensation if things dont go the way the owners expect them to
I took nothing from that interview to say that Bows, himself, was staying. Given that the clip is issued by the club and given that Lee is a very open and honest guy, they would have been falling over themselves to tell us, categorically, that Lee was staying. For me, the silence on the matter of Lee’s intentions was deafening. They know we are all concerned about Lee leaving and that we know he was meeting with the ‘owner’ in the early part of this week (noting we are now past that point) and yet nothing said? Doesn’t look too positive, does it?
Agree with the above, however if the talks had gone badly I would have expected an announcement to say LB has left and he certainly wouldn't be doing interviews like that is he has decided to leave.
Unless another club has come in for him I don't think he will just walk away,players slowly starting to sign extended contracts to me that says he is staying
Unless another club has come in for him I don't think he will just walk away,players slowly starting to sign extended contracts to me that says he is staying
I hope you are right. Things at the club are obviously in flux at the moment which, reasonably, leaves Lee in a position where a ‘stay or go’ decision has not been made. He’s no fool and will inevitably take anything PE says with a pinch of salt. Actions not words from within the club are what we and he need right now.
As long as he is being paid and has nowhere else to go to, I can't see him going. He is under contract for starters. What I am sure he is doing is earning his salary and planning for next season as best he can in the circumstances.
I would like to think Williams had some assurances from Bowyer before signing a new contract
Williams didn’t sign a new contract, he triggered a clause in his existing deal that extends it for a year. I think it’s an important distinction.
Could mean he's on more than he could get offered elsewhere.
I think the market will be pretty bleak for free agents this summer. Might be worth trying to take the little security that extending his Charlton deal offers and then, if we go bust, he will be a free agent again*.
*Sorry if this doesn’t play to the narrative that he signed because he’s deeply in love with the club and everything is now clearly going to be fine.
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The upshot of this is though, I can't see how any decently sized Championship club would want him yet. League One, absolutely, but he has that with us. We shouldn't forget that he is an inexperienced manager and if he learns from his errors, he could go right to the top. I'm not a fan of he is MR Charlton and can do no wrong attitudes though. Look at what the evidence shows and judge on that. For me, he is well in credit and I would like him to be managing us next season. But I hope he learns from mistakes I am sure he made.
As a manager, Bowyer is an extension of the man as a player: wily, tough, and always up for it. He will have relished pitting his wits against more experienced managers and better teams this season. I like him: he is forward-looking (literally, playing two up front) and sanguine. He is the right man for us.
Yet doubtless he has personal and professional ambitions as a manager that take him far above the third division. It's a relief that the Birmingham and Bristol City jobs have been filled. We breathe again.
Why would he necessarily have big ambitions as a manager? He had walked away from the game and made no effort to get into coaching/managing. He only got involved when asked to help out here.
He may have got the taste for being in football again, and for what he's done at Charlton. But that"s not the same as having ambitions.
Why resign when he could get sacked and get the compensation if things dont go the way the owners expect them to
Bearing in mind that Eddie Howe has left Bournemouth and Paul Cook has left Wigan, it's telling.