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Why are so many people not wearing face masks?
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My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.
Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?0 -
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.7 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-53802226ME14addick said:My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.
Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.elpais.com/society/2020-08-10/how-spains-face-mask-rules-are-being-broken.html?outputType=amp
Sounds to me like the Spanish hate wearing face masks more so then the brits. Though at least it would appear, as you mentioned, fines are being dished out for those who don't comply.0 -
Ditto, I can't breathe very well with a mask on as I have a nasal issue (that was operated on before and never resolved it so can't be bothered to try again).EastTerrace said:I wear a mask but as soon as I’m out of the shop it’s off.
Oppressive, horrible things.
Plus my glasses steam up, so I can't see or breathe well at all.
But I do wear a mask where required to.2 -
And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first.Baldybonce said:
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
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Both.ME14addick said:My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.
Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?0 -
You'll be there all day if the bloke without the mask gets onBaldybonce said:
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
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Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives.4
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Isn't this just something like those 20mph speed zones where most people think :-
"I believe 20mph is too slow. 30mph is safe enough so long as pedestrians stay alert and don't wear headphones. As a compromise I will travel at 30mph instead of 35mph which is my usual speed along this sort of street.
Speed limits - save energy - stop using plastic - put things in the blue bin not the grey one - wear a mask - don't eat sugar - don't say anything that might be offensive to minorities - don't give money to beggars - worry about climate change - don't smoke in front of your kids - blah blah blah....
Yeah Yeah Yeah - but just stop telling me what to do all the time!"
Personally, I work hard to obey all the rules!
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I also hear you @stevexreeve the fact that successive governments feel the need to mess with peoples lives and tell people how to live their lives grates on me
How thick have you got to be to not know that getting no exercise, eating shit, smoking and drinking excessively is bad for you especially in the age of information we live in
One thing I agree needed something pushed along is to stop food manufacturers putting the volume of refined sugar in stuff and that diet drinks should be the default option as opposed to the other way round. Genuinely it amazes me when people are shown in a visual how much unnatural sugars are in drinks and food. OK that may seem like messing with people but having seen how appallingly behaved some of my friends kids are that are given sugary drinks as a default method of hydration it makes me feel sorry for teachers and people like me who have to bite their lip when the shitty arsed little muppets are screaming round Asda or worse, my local!
Funny thing is though, these same successive governments have subbed out so much stuff like health care and housing provision to absolve them of direct blame i think they kind of lose the right to tell anyone how to live their life0 - Sponsored links:
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Same here, but that's fine as there's no requirement to wear a mask outdoors where the risk of spreading Covid is much smallerEastTerrace said:I wear a mask but as soon as I’m out of the shop it’s off.
Oppressive, horrible things.
Wearing an extra large cotton mask has made a difference, I have a large face so it's a lot more comfortable0 -
Keep us updated BaldyBaldybonce said:
And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first.Baldybonce said:
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.0 -
Nearly at the O2 now. Dying for a slash.clb74 said:
Keep us updated BaldyBaldybonce said:
And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first.Baldybonce said:
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.7 -
Exemption cards
Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering.
Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.
This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. (My bold).
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So some people who are vulnerable to COVID-19, don't wear masks !
You couldn't make it up.
I was caught on the M3 in a cloud burst on Thursday and visibility was shocking and yet there were still folk going at 70 to 80 miles MPH.
You couldn't make it up.
Unless you are Messi or Ronaldo you just have to be a team player sometimes and forgo you individual freedoms and choices.
Masks are anti social and freedom of speech is muffled, But I abide with the rules.
My 2020 vision which is blurred because of wearing a mask can't wait for the post Covid world of moaning about other trivial things.
2021 let's be having you; when Charlton start their Journey back to respectability and Zoom is just an ice Lolly.3 -
Unnecessarycolthe3rd said:
Counted every single one of them did you?killerandflash said:
Sadly it's not true. Was in an ASDA this afternoon and barely 50% of customers were wearing masks. Was quite disappointed actuallycolthe3rd said:I think there is a sort of hyperbole with this whole thing, the vast majority of people are wearing masks wherever they need to be. I think it's just more noticeable when someone isn't so we build it up more in our heads about the true numbers who aren't.
Of those who don't wear one, I'm sure there are a number that don't due to health reasons and for the rest? I'd honestly like to ask some people, it could be they've spent too much time on Facebook and some of the nonsense being shared on there or maybe they just have an issue with authority. I've recently moved from a less wealthy area to one that is definitely more gentrified and the numbers wearing masks here in shops and on transport is definitely higher. Maybe it's part of the authority issue thing but it is definitely an interesting social study that I'd like to read about if any are done in the future.5 -
Who caved in firstBaldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.0 -
Did you see the earlier illustration? Go in you jeans, as long as the person next to you is in jeans, you won’t wee on them!!Baldybonce said:
Nearly at the O2 now. Dying for a slash.clb74 said:
Keep us updated BaldyBaldybonce said:
And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first.Baldybonce said:
Everyones got off and got the bus behind.Baldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.5 -
Won’t the outbreak stop when a vaccine has been found?ShootersHillGuru said:Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives.0 -
Okay, looks like some people have jumped on the anti mask/social distancing protest bandwagon in Trafalgar Square.
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David Icke apparently about to speak. Idiots.2 - Sponsored links:
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The question which I found very interesting which was posed on Twitter is at what metric will all this restrictions be relaxed as we go back normal?Normally see various answers, no cases (testing almost 180k a day so won’t be at zero for a long time). No deaths for a month? 75% of the country to be vaccinated. Waiting to find out what the long term implications are from the virus.
Not trying to be a controversial arsehole, just found the question very interesting because personally don’t think anyone could give an answer to that question even members of SAGE.0 -
Not at all, when someone tells me I'm lying about something but only backs it up with some made up percentage. Absolutely necessary.Todds_right_hook said:
Unnecessarycolthe3rd said:
Counted every single one of them did you?killerandflash said:
Sadly it's not true. Was in an ASDA this afternoon and barely 50% of customers were wearing masks. Was quite disappointed actuallycolthe3rd said:I think there is a sort of hyperbole with this whole thing, the vast majority of people are wearing masks wherever they need to be. I think it's just more noticeable when someone isn't so we build it up more in our heads about the true numbers who aren't.
Of those who don't wear one, I'm sure there are a number that don't due to health reasons and for the rest? I'd honestly like to ask some people, it could be they've spent too much time on Facebook and some of the nonsense being shared on there or maybe they just have an issue with authority. I've recently moved from a less wealthy area to one that is definitely more gentrified and the numbers wearing masks here in shops and on transport is definitely higher. Maybe it's part of the authority issue thing but it is definitely an interesting social study that I'd like to read about if any are done in the future.1 -
Agreed. Absolutely no where have I seen anything close to 50% compliance. Yet surprise surprise, on CL someone claims to have witnessed it.colthe3rd said:
Not at all, when someone tells me I'm lying about something but only backs it up with some made up percentage. Absolutely necessary.Todds_right_hook said:
Unnecessarycolthe3rd said:
Counted every single one of them did you?killerandflash said:
Sadly it's not true. Was in an ASDA this afternoon and barely 50% of customers were wearing masks. Was quite disappointed actuallycolthe3rd said:I think there is a sort of hyperbole with this whole thing, the vast majority of people are wearing masks wherever they need to be. I think it's just more noticeable when someone isn't so we build it up more in our heads about the true numbers who aren't.
Of those who don't wear one, I'm sure there are a number that don't due to health reasons and for the rest? I'd honestly like to ask some people, it could be they've spent too much time on Facebook and some of the nonsense being shared on there or maybe they just have an issue with authority. I've recently moved from a less wealthy area to one that is definitely more gentrified and the numbers wearing masks here in shops and on transport is definitely higher. Maybe it's part of the authority issue thing but it is definitely an interesting social study that I'd like to read about if any are done in the future.0 -
Don’t know, we got off and onto the bus behind.Todds_right_hook said:
Who caved in firstBaldybonce said:I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.0 -
Carter said:I also hear you @stevexreeve the fact that successive governments feel the need to mess with peoples lives and tell people how to live their lives grates on me
How thick have you got to be to not know that getting no exercise, eating shit, smoking and drinking excessively is bad for you especially in the age of information we live in
One thing I agree needed something pushed along is to stop food manufacturers putting the volume of refined sugar in stuff and that diet drinks should be the default option as opposed to the other way round. Genuinely it amazes me when people are shown in a visual how much unnatural sugars are in drinks and food. OK that may seem like messing with people but having seen how appallingly behaved some of my friends kids are that are given sugary drinks as a default method of hydration it makes me feel sorry for teachers and people like me who have to bite their lip when the shitty arsed little muppets are screaming round Asda or worse, my local!
Funny thing is though, these same successive governments have subbed out so much stuff like health care and housing provision to absolve them of direct blame i think they kind of lose the right to tell anyone how to live their life
There's a thread for that.
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There will be Covid circulating in some circles probably forever. Not everyone on the planet will be vaccinated. There is now verified evidence from Hong Kong of a previously Covid infected patient being reinfected. There is more than one strain of the virus already. A vaccine would be tremendous but there are far too many people pinning their hopes on a vaccine making them permanently safe from infection and too many thinking that a vaccine is inevitable. My estimate is that > 80% of the population think this is over. It very much isn’t.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Won’t the outbreak stop when a vaccine has been found?ShootersHillGuru said:Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives.0 -
Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask.
I call it selfishness (for the 99%).4 -
I'm amazed you have the time to post on here as a fully qualified and experienced medical professional, working in several specialist fields, who has managed to not only identify all those who can be exempt but record their gender and age.SELR_addicks said:Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask.
I call it selfishness (for the 99%).
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Dont worry about it, they might be on their way to a rave...SELR_addicks said:Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask.
I call it selfishness (for the 99%).0 -
There are a mixture of factors I think.
Public health messages need to be clear and consistent to be fully effective & for a multitude of reasons this hasn’t happened re wearing masks. In addition, no public health strategy will ever be entirely successful.
People have become fatigued by Covid, some have now concluded that the risk is small, some have bought into an array of online conspiracies and some are just plain daft. Anyone in the last three categories are significantly mistaken in my opinion.
I have found myself getting irritated with people not wearing masks, however my youngest daughter (12) has reminded me that disability isn’t always visible and my wife (a Nurse Researcher currently working at one of the Covid Recovery research sites) has pointed out that 100% compliance is neither required, or expected & that if the majority wear a mask then the approach will succeed - both of which make me feel better (and a bit more relaxed when shopping!).
The bottom line re this virus hasn’t & won’t go away, will spread at a R0 of 3 - 5 unfettered and will kill people unless social distancing & other measures are maintained. The possibility of a second spike is real (France) and if that happens sooner, or later, the death rate will increase. Indeed the only reason we don’t have a significantly higher death rate already is that multiple millions of people have shielded, or isolated, in the most extreme manner, for several months and we have all been through lockdown. Plus research & experience has improved how Covid is treated.So I’m wearing a mask!5
