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Fairytale of New York
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I think Radio 1 should ban loads more.
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
Bob Marley & The Wailers - Get Up Stand Up
John & Yoko - Woman
Bob Dylan - Hurricane
Racists the lot of them.
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But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.0 -
Social media for the most part is shit. Never done Twitter, Whats App or Instagram and although I still have an active Facebook page I haven’t been on it for nearly a year. Too many cranks and dickheads wanting to score points for my liking.1
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Films have always been edited.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.
They even have to be given certificates.
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Sure. I assume we're referring to a comment in the HoC six days ago.MrWalker said:
In a discussion that had nothing to do with them, you crowbarred in a reference to a poster you seem to continually stalk on a thread for no reason other than to seemingly be a dick. I found that bizarre, hence the lol. (With regard the same poster, you also LOL'ed their comment about wishing to interact with their grandchild, and also have previously insinuated they should shove biscuits up their arse. So it seems this dickish behaviour has precedent.)
Your turn.
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I guess it’s different because the watershed controls the content of all channels, I think. Whereas this is just BBC’s decision. I don’t think it’s gonna stop anyone having access to the original version with the word faggot in.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.And why would we get to that stage with films, they already have age restrictions etc.0 -
BBC1 have aired plenty of unedited films with derogatory terms towards gays, ethnic minorities, Jews, etc, etc. Why is this song different?Henry Irving said:
Films have always been edited.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.
They even have to be given certificates.
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As I said, this song was edited because ‘it may offend’, not to protect younger listeners as age certification does.BR7_addick said:
I guess it’s different because the watershed controls the content of all channels, I think. Whereas this is just BBC’s decision. I don’t think it’s gonna stop anyone having access to the original version with the word faggot in.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.And why would we get to that stage with films, they already have age restrictions etc.
btw, I hate the song so I’d be happy if they never played it again. I’m just wondering where all this is going.0 -
After the watershed, yes.ValleyGary said:
BBC1 have aired plenty of unedited films with derogatory terms towards gays, ethnic minorities, Jews, etc, etc. Why is this song different?Henry Irving said:
Films have always been edited.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.
They even have to be given certificates.0 -
Will the Dictionary be purged of these 'offensive' words? I hope so.
*sniggers*
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No time, always on Charlton Life!AddickUpNorth said:Social media for the most part is shit. Never done Twitter, Whats App or Instagram and although I still have an active Facebook page I haven’t been on it for nearly a year. Too many cranks and dickheads wanting to score points for my liking.0 -
I honestly don’t think this is going anywhere mate, it’s not that deep.ValleyGary said:
As I said, this song was edited because ‘it may offend’, not to protect younger listeners as age certification does.BR7_addick said:
I guess it’s different because the watershed controls the content of all channels, I think. Whereas this is just BBC’s decision. I don’t think it’s gonna stop anyone having access to the original version with the word faggot in.ValleyGary said:
But as I posted earlier, why isn’t the radio watershed like TV? Edit it when played before 9pm then play what you want after that.BR7_addick said:Haven’t naughty words been censored for years on end on the radio/TV? I’m lost, why is this an issue? I have kisstory on in the motor and they pause out words of all the decent rap tunes and it makes no difference whatsoever, chill out right wing snowflakes you’ll be fine.It’s not been edited to protect young listeners. It’s been edited because it may offend. Are we going to get to a stage when we begin editing films?I genuinely don’t know the difference.And why would we get to that stage with films, they already have age restrictions etc.
btw, I hate the song so I’d be happy if they never played it again. I’m just wondering where all this is going.It’s someone at the BBC stopping and thinking, maybe we should drop that line from the song as it might piss off a gay person, it was then more than likely discussed and then decided upon.1 -
So you rule to live by is if it didnt shock Maggie Thatcher its fine with you 🤣🤣addick1956 said:
Because I don't want some PC near do well trying to tell me I may be shocked by something that didn't even shock Maggie Thatcher in the 80's is moralistic and rewriting history to there moral stand point to which we should never now, frankly.paulie8290 said:I read somewhere that Kirsty MacColl before she passed away when singing live changed the wording as she didnt like to say it either.
Also Shane MacGowan apparently doesnt like the word and only used it because it fitted the narrative of 2 arseholes arguing.
But as I said if The Pogues whose song it is don't care then why should it matter1 -
It's a complete non-story. One station has decided to play an edited version as is their right to do. That's it. That's literally it.
Other stations can play whatever version they want. People can buy/play whatever version they want. They can sing or not sing the word in question if they want to.
If THAT is what you think of as "PC GONE MAD!!!" then frankly, you're an idiot.6 -
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I loved it before it was written.Covered End said:
That's the best bit.ShootersHillGuru said:You scumbag, you maggot you cheap lousy fagot .....
I've always loved the song well before many even knew it.
Gradually, it's become a Xmas favourite, much to my surprise.3 -
Kin joke in my opinion, protecting ‘people’ from these words, when my kids ask Alexa for Lil Nas and instead of Old Town Road they get some song with him singing about a Motherf*****r.
My kids are 11 and under. That shit that Amazon are promoting plus the stuff that my Son says the kids are listening to in his primary school, which is basically more sexual oriented lyrics, seems accepted by a large chunk of society.
Not lyrically, but you only have to see what Little Mix wear (for a young audience) to see parents either find these things acceptable or don’t even realise.
Meanwhile, an American rapper saying Pussy and flipping you over is fine but an Irish Folk Rock song with an offensive term isn’t?I’ve gone through my life always trying not to offend people, so it’s not like I find offensiveness amusing. However, banning ‘art’ and wiping out history is not the way to go.
And yes, it is important that we don’t sanitise culture. It’s not an immediate concern as per Covid, but little things like this are the small granules of shutting views down, feeding cancel culture, causing bitterness and a more divided society.
It’s like Children, you’re on dodgy ground if you keep pandering to them.4 -
Well it's my favourite Christmas song.
The fact that The Pogues were orignally called "Pogue Mahone" – the anglicisation of the Irish Gaelic póg mo thóin, meaning "kiss my arse" always makes me smile.
I sang this song as an arrangement in a choir in St Peter Mancroft Church in Norwich about 5 years ago. It's a fantastic anthem.
I was extolling it's virtue on social media last year and a bloke (gay) challenged me on the lyrics. He said he hates its use in the song. We had a reasonable adult conversation. He convinced me that the term "faggot" in the context of the song is offensive to many gay people.
I therefore agree with the radio edit.
Things change. We should respect that.
We don't sing all verses of the National Anthem such as the infamous 6th Verse which includes the following lines
"And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"
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I just asked Spotify and got the version with faggot in.EastTerrace said:Kin joke in my opinion, protecting ‘people’ from these words, when my kids ask Alexa for Lil Nas and instead of Old Town Road they get some song with him singing about a Motherf*****r.
My kids are 11 and under. That shit that Amazon are promoting plus the stuff that my Son says the kids are listening to in his primary school, which is basically more sexual oriented lyrics, seems accepted by a large chunk of society.
Not lyrically, but you only have to see what Little Mix wear (for a young audience) to see parents either find these things acceptable or don’t even realise.
Meanwhile, an American rapper saying Pussy and flipping you over is fine but an Irish Folk Rock song with an offensive term isn’t?I’ve gone through my life always trying not to offend people, so it’s not like I find offensiveness amusing. However, banning ‘art’ and wiping out history is not the way to go.
And yes, it is important that we don’t sanitise culture. It’s not an immediate concern as per Covid, but little things like this are the small granules of shutting views down, feeding cancel culture, causing bitterness and a more divided society.
It’s like Children, you’re on dodgy ground if you keep pandering to them.
The version with faggot in is accepted by large chunks of society, it’s just BBC not playing that version just incase.
I don’t think many are offended by it, just people offended by the imaginary people offended.
Its not banned or wiped out like I said I just listened to it on Spotify. Literally just BBC playing a version without the word faggot in.
Bit different giving into your kid for having a tantrum than not saying the word faggot just in case you piss off a gay person.
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Yes but yes if you don't sing that verse if the national anthem you're "rewriting history" a nonsensical phrase quickly replacing "Pc gone mad" as the meaningless cliche of choice.bingaddick said:Well it's my favourite Christmas song.
The fact that The Pogues were orignally called "Pogue Mahone" – the anglicisation of the Irish Gaelic póg mo thóin, meaning "kiss my arse" always makes me smile.
I sang this song as an arrangement in a choir in St Peter Mancroft Church in Norwich about 5 years ago. It's a fantastic anthem.
I was extolling it's virtue on social media last year and a bloke (gay) challenged me on the lyrics. He said he hates its use in the song. We had a reasonable adult conversation. He convinced me that the term "faggot" in the context of the song is offensive to many gay people.
I therefore agree with the radio edit.
Things change. We should respect that.
We don't sing all verses of the National Anthem such as the infamous 6th Verse which includes the following lines
"And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!"
Anyone noticed the words to the German national anthem changed after 1945? Boo hiss, "rewriting history"3 - Sponsored links:
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Many US radio stations banned Link Wray's "Rumble" back in the fifties in case it caused the youth to riot.
"Rumble" is an instrumental.3 -
Wish they banned PJ and Duncans version an all. Nothing to do with causing a riotAlgarveaddick said:Many US radio stations banned Link Wray's "Rumble" back in the fifties in case it caused the youth to riot.
"Rumble" is an instrumental.4 -
Algarveaddick said:Many US radio stations banned Link Wray's "Rumble" back in the fifties in case it caused the youth to riot.
"Rumble" is an instrumental.
I wish someone had banned PJ and Duncan’s Lets Get To Rumble. Not because it may have encouraged little kids to get feisty but because it was a monstrous turd of a song.0 -
Is there a parrot round here?
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Didnt Tony Blackburn refuse to play Down In The Tube Station once upon a time?0
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I was gutted when Gary Glitter was banned by the BBC. Used to have his poster on my wall when I was growing up along with ones of Jimmy Saville and Jonathan King. At least they're still playing Michael Jackson.4
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This is the same BBC that didn't have a problem with The Shamen playing Ebenezer Goode on Top of the Pops.0
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Because no one listens to Radio 2?MrOneLung said:Yet Radio 2 is playing the original version0
