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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Interest in a Stoke defender I see.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    DOUCHER said:
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    Could also cancel Watson's contract and free up around 4k.
    DOUCHER said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Shake hands with Bogle and Washington, pay them off and put it down to experience 
    Correct me if I'm wrong but paying off contracts wouldn't free up room on the salary cap.
    why not? they wouldn't be on the payroll any more
    Exactly. They wouldn't be on the payroll anymore but the cap is an accumulated figure for the year.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    How does the cap affect Pay as you play contracts?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,350
    Scoham said:
    Chunes said:
    Could also cancel Watson's contract and free up around 4k.
    DOUCHER said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Shake hands with Bogle and Washington, pay them off and put it down to experience 
    Correct me if I'm wrong but paying off contracts wouldn't free up room on the salary cap.
    What a shame!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
  • Sark99
    Sark99 Posts: 181
    Sage said:
    If we were to play a back 3, I’d have him on the right of the 3. He has the ability to play right back, he’s not slow, and can bring the ball out of defence.

    However, I think we found out all we need to know when Matthews came on against Swindon and we put Gunter as the right centre back instead of Oshilaja and keeping Gunter where he was.

    Bowyer has since said he is happy to continue to play a central midfielder at centre back, and keep someone who plays in that position on the bench.

    Does seem as though the writing is on the wall, and really, think it would be a shame. He’s not Championship standard, but is Deji leaving really going to allow us to bring in someone better for so little money? 
    Absolutely spot on for me. If we went up I'd definitely look to be signing better than Deji but I find it hard to believe he can't do a job for us at this moment in time. 

    If Bowyer feels he can't, then what the hell did we sign him for. We had a lack of money yes but we were in the league above. He trusted him to do a job at left-back not so long ago, can't see what's changed. 
    My view is we signed players like Deji because at that time were not given funds and had to look for the best of what was left. Similar to Chuks Aneke a player who has potential but with probable injury problems.

    I am not sure that we would have had these players on our books now if we had been allowed funds to invest at a better level.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Interest in a Stoke defender I see.
    Do you mean by some of us or have you heard something?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
    We must have done something similar with Williams when he signed.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,350
    It will be interesting to see if we offer Chuks a new contract. No doubt he is unbelievable at times, but it's hard to build a team around a player who can only do 60-70 mins.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    Chunes said:
    It will be interesting to see if we offer Chuks a new contract. No doubt he is unbelievable at times, but it's hard to build a team around a player who can only do 60-70 mins.
    At a push 

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    Chunes said:
    It will be interesting to see if we offer Chuks a new contract. No doubt he is unbelievable at times, but it's hard to build a team around a player who can only do 60-70 mins.


    I'd want him to stay just because having that combination of physical power and technical skill is a handy ace card to play. Ideally though it should not be our one and only tactic to rescue a game as it is currently.

  • I asked Thomas around the rules about signing ronnie schwartz does it have to be done before the 1st which he answered yes it does i then asked him does he think he will sign to which he answered just watch the news so in my eyes that one is definitely done 
    How can we sign someone before the window opens on 1st ?

  • I asked Thomas around the rules about signing ronnie schwartz does it have to be done before the 1st which he answered yes it does i then asked him does he think he will sign to which he answered just watch the news so in my eyes that one is definitely done 
    How can we sign someone before the window opens on 1st ?
    I haven't got a clue but I see Leeds sign someone last week so it can be done 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,280
    edited December 2020
    I thought you could sign someone at any time, it is just that they cannot play for you until the next window.

    ie if the ruling on Hemed last season had been against us, he would still have been our player but just would not have played for the first few months.

    It Hreidersson all those years ago.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033

    I asked Thomas around the rules about signing ronnie schwartz does it have to be done before the 1st which he answered yes it does i then asked him does he think he will sign to which he answered just watch the news so in my eyes that one is definitely done 
    How can we sign someone before the window opens on 1st ?
    I suspect we might sign and register him on the 31st Dec (pre Brexit). Then he would be eligible and could play on the 2nd Jan. 


  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    I asked Thomas around the rules about signing ronnie schwartz does it have to be done before the 1st which he answered yes it does i then asked him does he think he will sign to which he answered just watch the news so in my eyes that one is definitely done 
    How can we sign someone before the window opens on 1st ?
    Maybe he has been released from his contract and they have paid him up on the final six months. 😀
  • Chunes said:
    It will be interesting to see if we offer Chuks a new contract. No doubt he is unbelievable at times, but it's hard to build a team around a player who can only do 60-70 mins.
    Going to be difficult as well... If we get promoted to the Championship then we can offer Chuks whatever he wants

    If we dont go up then Chuks may well need to take a wage cut, as his current salary doesnt apply to the Salary Cap as he signed his contract before it came into effect

    Jason Pearce is in the exact same boat

    Of course Gallen could well have treated their current wage as part of the Salary Cap so that when their contracts do expire, we can at the very least offer them the same terms that they're on
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
    We must have done something similar with Williams when he signed.
    No I think Palace paid him off and so he took a pay cut. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
    Well you can, because that's exactly what Palace did to allow us to sign Williams. 



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  • Reckon if George has been told he can leave then Erhun has been told the same!!
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
    Well you can, because that's exactly what Palace did to allow us to sign Williams. 


    Can we identify players in a similar situation?

    As Curbishley said in hus analysis Charlton would be attractive for someone to come in. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The way round the salary cap and obvious holes in the squad is..... 

    Pay Luton a fee for Shinnie and take over the last 6 months of his contract with them paying his wages.   You could possibly do the same with Smyth. 

    Send Levitt back. 

    Sign a striker with what ever is left of budget. 

    Get a right sided center back in on loan.

    Then get the best player you can on loan, provided he isn't a keeper or a right back he will almost certainly improve us. 

    Then there is always the 5% over run on the salary cap, which works out at about 5k a week for a six month contract.

    There is plenty of wiggle room. 
    Very difficult to do legally. You can’t take over someone’s contract when actually you are not taking over the contract at all. 
    We must have done something similar with Williams when he signed.
    No I think Palace paid him off and so he took a pay cut. 
    Effectively the same thing.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Reckon if George has been told he can leave then Erhun has been told the same!!
    Yeah no chance he’ll get a new deal with us.
  • I’ve been reminded that the transfer window opens on 2nd January 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,437
    edited December 2020
    I’ve been reminded that the transfer window opens on 2nd January 
    Yeah taken from the EFL website:

    The purpose of this Regulation is to give The League an element of flexibility in its application, however in Season 2020/21 it shall be applied as follows:

     - the Winter Transfer Window in Season 2020/21 will open on 2 January 2021.

     - In the Championship division, Match round 23 is currently scheduled for 2 January 2021 and there is a strong likelihood that some fixtures will be moved to 3/4 January 2021 to accommodate TV selections.

     - In order to ensure that all Clubs are treated equitably for Match round 23, the League will withhold confirmation of registration where applications are lodged on the morning of Saturday 2 January 2021, until after completion of match round 23, so Clubs selected for TV will not gain an advantage over the majority of Clubs who would play at 3pm on the Saturday.
  • What make any one think this January will be the supa dupa cheque book transfer period that last year wasn't. 

    If Schwartz is signed it will be like Green last year..that then an embargo due to salary cap unless we get an U21 on loan.
    Why would we be put in an embargo due to the Salary Cap?

    If you exceed the Salary Cap then you just get fined depending how much you've gone over it
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,075
    Talking of Green it looks like he's still not got a club. Surprised at that thought he'd easily get a L1 club. 
  • What make any one think this January will be the supa dupa cheque book transfer period that last year wasn't. 

    If Schwartz is signed it will be like Green last year..that then an embargo due to salary cap unless we get an U21 on loan.
    I’m not expecting a supa dupa cheque book this January. I’m expecting a sensible approach under a sensible new owner which will improve the balance of the squad and allow for continued stability. This might mean players leaving, if so, they are being moved on for a reason. 

    For the first time in years, we have an owner who will back the manager. Let’s just enjoy the January window for a change
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    What make any one think this January will be the supa dupa cheque book transfer period that last year wasn't. 

    If Schwartz is signed it will be like Green last year..that then an embargo due to salary cap unless we get an U21 on loan.
    Won’t be an embargo, we’ll be able to bring more in if we can move others on.