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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    Oggy Red said:
    Croydon said:
    Does anybody moan about the cap as much as we do? Seems to get mentioned every single interview.
    You sound like you've completely missed the point?

    Right up to the day Thomas took over, Charlton were under transfer embargo. 
    We had been relegated, lost half our players - and couldn't rebuild the squad until after our takeover, hurriedly signing the leftover players that nobody else wanted.

    Even before that, other clubs in the Division knew the wage cap was coming ...... so they did most of their business early, without financial restriction.
    The wage cap hasn't impacted them like it has Charlton.

    Now it's difficult to improve the squad because of the wretched wage cap.
    And you're surprised that people "moan" in frustration?





    Yes I'm aware of all that. I haven't been living under a rock.

    The cap is shit, we know that, but bitching about it every interview isn't going to change that. Bowyer signed Watson and Gunter on inflated wages (for the cap), so it's annoying to hear him moaning about it all the time.


  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    I shall prepare my "why bother?" face for the deadline close...


    But you'll get really excited, along with the rest of us, if TS posts a picture of some snacks and 7up on the day
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Rangers made move for Ofoborh apparently
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    Jayden Stockley I'm hearing is a real possibility.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 2021
    Small reminder Lee... The cap situation only gets harder next season as we currently have 26 players approaching the end of their contracts.

    10 are kids (italics),
    10 First teamers (bold)
    5 that are loanees  (bold italics) 
    and Oztumer.

    Famewo30/06/21
    Maatsen30/06/21
    Millar30/06/21
    Shinnie30/06/21
    Smyth30/06/21
    Oztumer30/06/21
    Dempsey30/06/21
    Watson30/06/21
    Maddison30/06/21
    Matthews30/06/21
    Williams30/06/21
    Pratley30/06/21
    F.Caskey30/06/21
    Amos30/06/21
    Pearce30/06/21
    Oshilaja30/06/21
    Aneke30/06/21
    Mingi30/06/21
    Vega30/06/21
    Clayden30/06/21
    Aoucharia30/06/21
    Harness30/06/21
    Osaghe30/06/21
    Doughty30/06/21
    Vennings30/06/21
    Quitirna30/06/21
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,473
    Belv said:
    Jayden Stockley I'm hearing is a real possibility.
    Another striker? Just don't see it with the cap.

    Bogle
    Washington
    Schwartz
    Aneke
    Smyth 

    Surely CB is a priority
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    We could have only the following left!:
    Davison30/06/22
    Gunter30/06/22
    Inniss30/06/22
    Bogle30/06/22
    Purrington30/06/22
    Washington30/06/22
    Gilbey30/06/23
    Barker30/06/23
    M.Brewer30/06/23
    Morgan30/06/23
    Henry30/06/23
    With questions around these ones:
    FrenchUnknown
    NessUnknown
    GhandourUnknown
    HarveyUnknown
    AidooUnknown
    WireduUnknown
    AllsopUnknown
    BartonUnknown
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Belv said:
    Jayden Stockley I'm hearing is a real possibility.
    If that didn't feel like such a finger in the air guess... I'd be listing you hopefully.
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
    If we terminate a contract, we still have to pay up their salary, unless it's under gross misconduct etc... So they'd still form part of the cap wouldn't they? We'd be better off flogging players. 
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  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 

    Yeah, I heard it from a Rovers contact, same one who gave me a heads up about Oztumer so believe it has legs.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,521
    edited January 2021
    Someone on the PNE site claiming Bristol Rovers were in for him and we've offered to pay more in wages.

    He's a decent player, I liked the look of him when he was at Exeter and he's an upgrade on Bogle and Washington for sure. I'd be happy if we could bring him in. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    That'll do Belv, added to the ITK list. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    Stockley would fit in with a) player was all ready to come 'down' and b) 'we acted too slowly as a club' seeing as he was in talks with Bristol R.
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
    If we terminate a contract, we still have to pay up their salary, unless it's under gross misconduct etc... So they'd still form part of the cap wouldn't they? We'd be better off flogging players. 
    We still have to pay their wages but if they're not an employee of the club surely that can't count towards the salary cap? 

    What I mean is if there wasn't a cap and Thomas gave a wage budget of like £4mil, surely releasing a player but still paying their wages in the background would almost be the same as having a higher wage bill. Ethically they might not want to release a player in that format, and there could be some rule against releasing players for wages I don't know, but if they're not in your submitted squad for the competition (which they wouldn't be as an ex-employee), I don't know how they could be counted towards the salary cap?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    edited January 2021
    Stockley come to terrorise Jason Pearce again, perhaps this time into retirement. JUST KIDDING JASE
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    Could also if money was not much issue on our end loan players out but continue to pay all/most of their wages like clubs have done for us, they'd be out of the squad and still getting paid, probably a terrible idea
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    Stockley battered us last season.
  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 631
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
    If we terminate a contract, we still have to pay up their salary, unless it's under gross misconduct etc... So they'd still form part of the cap wouldn't they? We'd be better off flogging players. 
    Is impersonating a footballer regarded as gross misconduct?
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,218
    mart77 said:
    Rangers made move for Ofoborh apparently
    Is there any player under 35 that Rangers or Celtic don’t make a move for these days? At least one of them seems to be mentioned in every player rumour. 
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  • Surprised that we are looking at a striker. We already have 4 of them. If true would be interesting to know the reason behind it.
  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    Vfrf said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
    If we terminate a contract, we still have to pay up their salary, unless it's under gross misconduct etc... So they'd still form part of the cap wouldn't they? We'd be better off flogging players. 
    We still have to pay their wages but if they're not an employee of the club surely that can't count towards the salary cap? 

    What I mean is if there wasn't a cap and Thomas gave a wage budget of like £4mil, surely releasing a player but still paying their wages in the background would almost be the same as having a higher wage bill. Ethically they might not want to release a player in that format, and there could be some rule against releasing players for wages I don't know, but if they're not in your submitted squad for the competition (which they wouldn't be as an ex-employee), I don't know how they could be counted towards the salary cap?
    Cancelling contracts still counts against the cap, you pay up the contract so it is a salary expenditure. Otherwise loads of teams would just release half their squad! 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    Bit surprised we're linked to a striker , especially another big physical target man like Stockley. 
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    995632 said:
    Vfrf said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Vfrf said:
    https://www.pne-online.net/forum/index.php?threads/january-2021-transfer-window-rumours-and-discussion.3432122/page-272

    More on Stockley. Someone with past success rate passing on info.

    I wonder if Sangaard might teminate a contract to allow us to. It's almost the equivalent of paying £3mil in wages rather than £2.5m. It just means another player on the wage bill who can't play for us but financially it's like operating on a higher wage cap if the player is useless. 
    If we terminate a contract, we still have to pay up their salary, unless it's under gross misconduct etc... So they'd still form part of the cap wouldn't they? We'd be better off flogging players. 
    We still have to pay their wages but if they're not an employee of the club surely that can't count towards the salary cap? 

    What I mean is if there wasn't a cap and Thomas gave a wage budget of like £4mil, surely releasing a player but still paying their wages in the background would almost be the same as having a higher wage bill. Ethically they might not want to release a player in that format, and there could be some rule against releasing players for wages I don't know, but if they're not in your submitted squad for the competition (which they wouldn't be as an ex-employee), I don't know how they could be counted towards the salary cap?
    Cancelling contracts still counts against the cap, you pay up the contract so it is a salary expenditure. Otherwise loads of teams would just release half their squad! 
    Where did you read this? I'd assume most clubs aren't in the financial position to pay contracts outside of their playing team. 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    We score goals need a CB more.
  • Don't forget TS said something like 5-4 is better than 1-0
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    Surprised that we are looking at a striker. We already have 4 of them. If true would be interesting to know the reason behind it.
    don't forget an MLS team was meant to be sniffing around Bogle so who knows ...
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Don't forget TS said something like 5-4 is better than 1-0
    Yeah needs to be 5-4 to us though I think he meant haha
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Surprised that we are looking at a striker. We already have 4 of them. If true would be interesting to know the reason behind it.
    don't forget an MLS team was meant to be sniffing around Bogle so who knows ...
    Cawley dismissed that one - some interaction from Grismby fans on Twitter, doubt there's anything in it aside from wishful thinking on our side
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    I’m not saying we don’t need a striker, or that Stockley wouldn’t vastly improve us as a team - but it’s staggering we have so many strikers and midfielders in the building that are seemingly not good enough. 

    Surely a few would have to go to make room under the cap.

    It’s funny to think about what a team of horrible bastards we’ll be if we manage to get Stockley, Aneke and Inniss in the starting line-up.