Is there any particular significance in this game? I can't think of anything for Charlton? Perhaps something on the West Brom side? A single sheet Football Programme for this game is currently bidding at £148 with 36 bids on eBay:
Is there any particular significance in this game? I can't think of anything for Charlton? Perhaps something on the West Brom side? A single sheet Football Programme for this game is currently bidding at £148 with 36 bids on eBay:
Bit of a mystery this one. A typed single sheet programme or team sheet for a match between Charlton and WBA on Friday 22nd February 1963.
It has been folded both ways and has some light creasing and some light marks to the rear. Otherwise it’s fine with no added writing.
Note the year isn’t shown but Charlton played Norwich on the date shown near the bottom and then Chelsea in the fa cup on 6th March, probably postponed a couple of days due to the really bad snow early that year which caused multiple postponements.
However, the mystery is that there is no record of Charlton and West Brom playing that season at all, I even tried to check reserve games but the Charlton team shown is pretty much their first team from the 1962/63 season.
I’ve opened the bidding at £4.99, I have no idea of the value, maybe a Charlton fan will know.
There were hundreds of postponements that season, maybe it was a hastily arranged friendly? I can only think that West Brom had travelled somewhere in London and their game was postponed, and Charlton were at a loose end - could have been a cup weekend of course, we're normally available on those occasions :-)
There were hundreds of postponements that season, maybe it was a hastily arranged friendly? I can only think that West Brom had travelled somewhere in London and their game was postponed, and Charlton were at a loose end - could have been a cup weekend of course, we're normally available on those occasions :-)
Yes this I think (more or less), West Brom were in the first division & didn't play a competitive game for almost 2 months because of the big freeze. They won away at Plymouth January 5th in 3rd round of the cup 5-1 & the next round was played 6th March although they managed to play a couple of first division fixtures in between. I imagine that all clubs were looking for friendlies during that terrible winter. We didn't play from 22nd December until 9th Feb & then the following week we beat Cardiff IN THE CUP !!!
There were hundreds of postponements that season, maybe it was a hastily arranged friendly? I can only think that West Brom had travelled somewhere in London and their game was postponed, and Charlton were at a loose end - could have been a cup weekend of course, we're normally available on those occasions :-)
Yep, I believe you are on the right track ...... that 1962-63 season was the 'Big Freeze' which devastated the Football League fixtures for weeks and weeks on end. It started on Boxing Day and it was early March before normality resumed.
Charlton were in the old Second Division and West Brom played in the top tier First Division.
The fact that it's only a team sheet and not a normal produced programme indicates that it's a hastily arranged friendly or a game of little importance. Reserve team fixtures had the same type of team sheet.
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
We need to get it then, Henners.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
We need to get it then, Henners.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
Not sure I can accept money earned from the evil that is gambling .....
I think this was a friendly game arranged in that particularly harsh winter in which the windsceen of the WBA coach smashed during the journey down and they arrived frozen.
My copy cost me 3 figures a few years ago. It is only the 2nd or 3rd time I have seen it being sold, but does seem to have attracted lots more interest this time.
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
We need to get it then, Henners.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
Not sure I can accept money earned from the evil that is gambling .....
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
We need to get it then, Henners.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
Not sure I can accept money earned from the evil that is gambling .....
I was at this game if memory serves me right, it was a very bad winter that year, the game was a friendly and the weather was so bad that it was called off just after half time I think.
Think that was the Southampton game that was abandoned
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
We need to get it then, Henners.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
Not sure I can accept money earned from the evil that is gambling .....
I'll get it posted to me and will take great pleasure in delivering it personally to the museum when we can finally get back to the hallowed The Valley.
I'll get it posted to me and will take great pleasure in delivering it personally to the museum when we can finally get back to the hallowed The Valley.
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
So no real programme for that one then.
So what about the other rare ones? Were there programmes for:
51/2 Villa postponed 52/3 Burnley, Villa postponed 52/3 Fulham friendly 67/8 Olympic XI 26 Feb 72/3 Orient, Brighton friendlies 73/4 Orient Northampton friendlies 78/9 Cambridge Palace postponed 79/80 Denmark u21 postponed
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
Never knew that.
Explains the rarity.
Although the museum's programme expert disagrees
"I’d not heard that before and not sure I’m convinced. It’s the same format as reserve programmes and includes “next home matches” which you might not expect for a press handout. While rare it’s not that scarce."
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
So no real programme for that one then.
So what about the other rare ones? Were there programmes for:
51/2 Villa postponed 52/3 Burnley, Villa postponed 52/3 Fulham friendly 67/8 Olympic XI 26 Feb 72/3 Orient, Brighton friendlies 73/4 Orient Northampton friendlies 78/9 Cambridge Palace postponed 79/80 Denmark u21 postponed
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Bit of a mystery this one. A typed single sheet programme or team sheet for a match between Charlton and WBA on Friday 22nd February 1963.
Note the year isn’t shown but Charlton played Norwich on the date shown near the bottom and then Chelsea in the fa cup on 6th March, probably postponed a couple of days due to the really bad snow early that year which caused multiple postponements.
Charlton were in the old Second Division and West Brom played in the top tier First Division.
The fact that it's only a team sheet and not a normal produced programme indicates that it's a hastily arranged friendly or a game of little importance.
Reserve team fixtures had the same type of team sheet.
But it is a Charlton 1st team line-up.
He was only 17 at the time .... but he's in the starting line-up.
He might well recall the game and it's circumstances?
This was a hastily arranged friendly on a Friday night.
We won 5 - 0 (HT 2 - 0) in front of just over 2,000 fans.
It's very rare although that price seems OTT.
It's one of only 8 post war home programmes the museum doesn't have, all are friendlies or postponements.
Bid for it (or I can) and I’ll cover it up to £300
Very generous.
.......but the museum has no such scruples. 😂
Go for it @bobmunro and as ever many thanks.
My copy is here https://www.flickr.com/photos/addicks7-6/18431570955
Lots more at https://www.flickr.com/photos/addicks7-6/albums
Cheers @bobmunro
I'll get it posted to me and will take great pleasure in delivering it personally to the museum when we can finally get back to the hallowed The Valley.
When the initial bidding started to ramp up (surprising him) he contacted one of the bidders to try and find more info. Apparently the 'programme' was not issued to the supporters attending, it was produced purely for the press - hence why it is very, very rare.
Explains the rarity.
51/2 Villa postponed
52/3 Burnley, Villa postponed
52/3 Fulham friendly
67/8 Olympic XI 26 Feb
72/3 Orient, Brighton friendlies
73/4 Orient Northampton friendlies
78/9 Cambridge Palace postponed
79/80 Denmark u21 postponed
"I’d not heard that before and not sure I’m convinced. It’s the same format as reserve programmes and includes “next home matches” which you might not expect for a press handout. While rare it’s not that scarce."