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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton v Accrington | Fri 8 Jan 2021
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Come on, Leuth; who do you want to be playing there ?Leuth said:What does Maatsen offer? Being our left-back throughout our good run and a generally good performer, maybe? He was defending well one-on-one today. Lost it in a bad spot for the 2nd goal when he should have headed it clear but we still didn't defend it well thereafter. He then did a bit of a headless chicken act, but he never hides and he has no little ability. Insane to make him one of the scapegoats compared to some of the dross we had out thee today. He showed a real understanding with Millar too.0 -
Big shout out for Gallen and his transfer wizardry for bringing in that bunch!5
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Weak, turgid display with a lack of self-belief and urgency. Things need to improve.Some of those players really haven’t worked out have they - Gunter looks very, very average, Gilbey looks very poor, immobile and slow to get the ball out from under his feet and Maatsen is quick but seems to be playing the game at a different pace to the rest of the team. We don’t hold the ball well, and that’s what we did under Bowyer when he started with us. Fitness levels don’t look great - Maddison now injured but didn’t even nearly look fit when he came on, Albie was fairly immobile there in that match and Smith goes to ground so easily. Not looking good, but having said that - we put the squad together in double quick time at the end of the summer, we nearly didn’t have a CLUB AT ALL and Schwartz has only been with us a few days - let him get fit first.Still trust Bowyer 100%, despite it not being what people want to hear on here. Fans are fickle in football and we need stability after a shitshow of a couple of years.3
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Well we went more attacking and the first half we were in it but the final ball is totally missing to be able to score. Weve signed a accurate striker, but if we cant set him up how does he convert?!
Criminal defending for the first, dirty touch for their second. Hope Purrington plays instead of Maatsen nexts time.
The team looked frustrated, poor body language. Youd think wed had 3 weeks off n were rusty not them. They looked a proper team, Bishop was doing whatever he wanted by the end.
V worrying. Not sure where to go from her2 -
Accrington were FULL of running, strong,good passing and movement, great goalkeeper , HUNGRY, confident in fact everything in bucket loads.
We were ...............???????2 -
Typical FA Cup performance from us. Maybe the team didn't realise we're already out?9
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Accrington have next to no budget yet they outclassed us and looked like a team. We looked like a group of players who'd only just met.
No excuses for being that bad.10 -
Utterly embarrassing. Bossed by Accrington Stanley at The Valley. They simply wanted it more than us, simple. I can take losing, players being uninterested and jumping out of 50/50’s I cant.
We make changes of players and changes of formation constantly, the players have no clue on what they are meant to be doing.Too much tinkering, too many players bereft of confidence. It has happened too many times. 10 points; 10 games in a shit L1 against most of the worse teams. The only hope was we beat the better ones but Hull and Accrington have dispelled that myth.
how many points have we won this season when JFC has started.
bollox.6 -
Absolute shit. Looking over our shoulders for the rest of the season. Hope to survive, as that's all we can hope for with Bowyer. I'm not sure what's gone wrong with him?1
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Really, who else will be better?se9addick said:I’m starting to think Bowyer was the right man at a bad time, but he isn’t the right man at this time.2 -
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I think Bowyer”s time is up. He started believing the hype when he got us up. In reality he’s an inexperienced manager who doesn’t know how to turn this around and is tactically inept with no man management skills. You can see that in the player performances and body language.3
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The Good: Millar made a good start (he'll soon be Charltonised though).The Bad: Defending, shooting, doing anything creative, wanting to win, showing an effort, letting the ball bounce, and still week after week passing the ball behind a running man.The Ugly: Everything else.3
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Did Scott Minto get replaced on Sky by Kirstie Allsopp?1
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Total dog shit
I’m gonna now tuck into a bottle of Rioja
TS surely thinking of a new manager and coaching staff - how on earth do we lose to fucking Accrington Stanley - total joke
Evening all !!!2 -
29 players have started for us already this season. Accrington have had 19. LB does not have a system or a game plan in place that works and doesn't know what his best team is either. Accrington do on both counts.9
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One thankful thing was that Millar wasn't playing for them as it'd have been a fkin cricket score.2
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Cafc43v3r said:
No because most of them were shit, had always been shit and would never not be shit. Every single current Charlton player is a good league 1 player. They aren't showing. That is down to either ALL of them or the manager.Callumcafc said:Reminded me of the feeling I had after we lost away at Dagenham & Redbridge in 2011. Plenty of people wanted Powell sacked after that game.
Wonder if it ten years time we'll look back at tonight's starting eleven and think of them in the same conversation as Llera, Fry, Semedo, McCormack, Parrett and Nouble...Powell had the ability to motivate the players, bowyer clearly doesn’t.
powell was in his first few months of management , whilst bowyer is still inexperienced he has multiple seasons on powell!Powell had, in the end, players fighting for him and allowed himself to be proved wrong (or educated) whilst it seems bowyer doesnt0 -
John Coleman.Danny Addick said:
Really, who else will be better?se9addick said:I’m starting to think Bowyer was the right man at a bad time, but he isn’t the right man at this time.7 -
Players fucked up today big time.ForeverAddickted said:Nothing to add that I havent been saying for a few weeks now
Individuals keep costing us... Bowyer cant and shouldnt have be making every single decision for them
Every week its Bowyer should be doing this, should be doing that
Managers get sacked, players continue on as though they've done fuck all wrong when they need to take a large amout of responsibility
But when I seen the starting line up I saw Charlton 0.
That has to change.1 -
I partially agree. Generally I like Bowyer and I feel sorry for him because the silly mistakes are costing us.ForeverAddickted said:Nothing to add that I havent been saying for a few weeks now
Individuals keep costing us... Bowyer cant and shouldnt have be making every single decision for them
Every week its Bowyer should be doing this, should be doing that
Managers get sacked, players continue on as though they've done fuck all wrong when they need to take a large amout of responsibilityBut can you genuinely say the man is getting much right? I have no idea what we actually train to do but he’s either useless or the players are ignoring him. Either way that’s a huge problem. I am starting to believe he’s lost the dressing room as they look disinterested, I’m not sure there’s any coming back from that.1 -
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I have watched every game this season and I honestly couldn’t tell you what our footballing style or strategy is and unfortunately there is only one person to blame for that.
I'm not bowyer out just yet as he had a lot of credit in the bank but I’m not far off now.
pick your best team every week and try to beat what is in front of you.4 -
rubbish - bowyer has to go - nobody could do worse with this squad right now - game was lost when bowyer picked the starting line up3
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Accrington a spirted well drilled team with real togetherness and fight. Charlton currently are a collection of individuals with no partnerships, strategy or coherence on the pitch. I guess this is not surprising considering a hastily assembled squad under a salary cap. The third squad Bowyer has put together and definitely the worst. I am not seeing this team getting promoted.3
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Gilbey’s been a disgrace since his injury. Big signing - high wages. Done nothing whatsoever since he’s come back4
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We need a spark or something has to change from somewhere if we are to even look like playing well again this season. I thought the blitz against AFCW might be it ... But no momentum from that at all. Can't see us signing anyone else under the salary cap so can't see where any improvement is coming from. I hate to say it but it looks like the players are sick of bowyer.
Two options as I see it:
- stick with bowyer and write this season off, start prepping for next season now.
- change manager (no suggestions as to who) and hope the players respond better
For what it's worth I would choose option 10 -
Anyone think Bow got the hump and just fucking it up for us? Like Dowie did?3
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Feels a bit like the Swindon (?) game that saw the end of Parky...1
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Not sure what you do after that.
Feel we should stick with Bowyer because he stuck with us.
But even with injuries you should have a system and it doesn’t look like we do. At all.
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Dire.
no intent, no purpose, no movement, no pace, no guile, no point trying to sugar coat it with any sort of positives because it’s plainly clear that all is not right and we don’t have a clue what to do.I’m don’t want to see Bowyer sacked, but after the recent run it’s clear he’s a broken man and I don’t think he knows how to fix it. He’s had to put up with so much crap in the last year or so and its taken its toll. For whatever reason he’s regressed in terms of sending a team out to win, and we’re playing not to get beat.I’m a bit lost as to what to say. I do think we’ve got a lot of mediocre players who can’t contribute anymore than they are, and that is a factor, but I think something needs to change.All is not well and I can’t see anything else than a slide down the table and more unrest if we continue playing the way we are. Millar looked okay, but he, nor any other individual are going to change it with the way the team play collectively. Same for Maddison and Williams. It’s the whole ethos of the team that is wrong.I do fear we’ve gone as far as we can go under Bowyer and I say that with a heavy heart. It’s not about wanting him out, it’s just a feeling that it might be time for both the club and him to part ways. It just seems like we’re on a downward spiral we can’t get out of5 -
this is the game that made me really lose faith i had left in our season.1
