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70 Plus Games And Counting..... (Ed: actually 38)

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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,391
    Cafc43v3r said:
    killerandflash said:
    Last night (just concerning the top 4 English divisions) Brentford won after going 1-0 down

    On Tuesday though, Sheffield United, Wolves, Palace and Forest all did it
    On Saturday there were 29 games across the EFL.  9 draws.  Of the other 20 games the team that scored 1st won in 18 of them. Of the 2 games one of them was a 92nd minute winner. 
    And that is the point. We might be witnessing teams coming back more from going 1-0 without crowds but, when the average number of goals in a game being under 3, the odds are that, in most instances, the team that does score first does not lose. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,270
    Dazzler21 said:
    Just wasted some time...

    We have played in 82 games in ALL (inluding Pizza trophy) competitions since the play off final. 

    The following is based on the normal game plus injury time. Where penalties or added time altered the score line, the original scoreline has been 


    Drawn 0-0 4Conceded first and won 0 -Conceded first and drawn 11 - Conceded first and lost: 27 - Scored first and won 25 - Scored first and drawn 7 - Scored first and lost 8
    Sunderland-SwindonPortsmouthMK DonsShrewsburyP'Boro
    CardiffRochdaleAccringtonBristol RBirminghamAFCW (Cup)
    FulhamPlymouthHullAFC WimbledonHullBrentford
    Forest Green (Cup) (Lost on pens)SwindonMK DonsIpswichCardiffPreston
    GillinghamBurtonOrient (Cup)FulhamPhoenix Sports (Cup)
    Brighton (Cup) (Won on penalties)Plymouth (Cup)FleetwoodN. ForestLuton
    WiganLincolnPortsmouthBristol
    West BromDoncasterOxfordSwansea
    QPRWest Ham (Cup)Northampton
    West BromLeedsBlackpool
    BarnsleyReadingWigan
    MillwallCrewe
    M'boroSwindon (cup)
    HuddsQPR
    WednesdayHull
    BlackburnLuton
    StokeForest
    West Brom (Cup)Barnsley
    SwanseaBristol C
    DerbyDerby
    HuddsLeeds
    M'BoroReading
    WednesdayBrentford
    MillwallStoke
    PrestonBlackburn
    Wigan
    Birmingham



    Busy day mate?

    How are you counting a game against Phoenix Sports?!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,391
    So we might not have won when going 1-0 down but we have drawn 11 times - as opposed to drawing 7 times when we have gone 1-0 up. Of the 8 games we lost when going in front, 5 were in the Championship and 2 were in the cups when we would have put out reserve sides. The only game we've lost in League 1 when in front is Peterborough.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    edited February 2021
    Some stats from the above:

    We're actually less fragile this season compared to last in terms of throwing away leads.
    - 3 thrown away this season compared to 11 last season. 
    - A lead has turned into a draw on just 1 occasion this season and 5 last season.
    - A lead has turned into a loss on 2 occasions this season and 6 last season. 
    - This season we have scored first on 13 occasions and won. Last season we took the lead 12 times and won. 
    - This season we have conceded first 9 times and lost. Last season was 18 times. 
    - We have so far pulled back a point on 6 occasions this season, it was just 5 all of last season. 
    - We've had scoreless results on 4 occasions, 1 this season, 3 last season. 

    (Without Cups & 0-0 Draws it's Played 70, CFW 0, CFD 10, CFL 24, SFW 23 , SFD 7, SFL 6)

    We still have almost half a season to go, so it will be interesting how this changes. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,270
    Dazzler21 said:
    Just wasted some time...

    We have played in 82 games in ALL (inluding Pizza trophy) competitions since the play off final. 

    The following is based on the normal game plus injury time. Where penalties or added time altered the score line, the original scoreline has been 


    Drawn 0-0 4Conceded first and won 0 -Conceded first and drawn 11 - Conceded first and lost: 27 - Scored first and won 25 - Scored first and drawn 7 - Scored first and lost 8
    Sunderland-SwindonPortsmouthMK DonsShrewsburyP'Boro
    CardiffRochdaleAccringtonBristol RBirminghamAFCW (Cup)
    FulhamPlymouthHullAFC WimbledonHullBrentford
    Forest Green (Cup) (Lost on pens)SwindonMK DonsIpswichCardiffPreston
    GillinghamBurtonOrient (Cup)FulhamPhoenix Sports (Cup)
    Brighton (Cup) (Won on penalties)Plymouth (Cup)FleetwoodN. ForestLuton
    WiganLincolnPortsmouthBristol
    West BromDoncasterOxfordSwansea
    QPRWest Ham (Cup)Northampton
    West BromLeedsBlackpool
    BarnsleyReadingWigan
    MillwallCrewe
    M'boroSwindon (cup)
    HuddsQPR
    WednesdayHull
    BlackburnLuton
    StokeForest
    West Brom (Cup)Barnsley
    SwanseaBristol C
    DerbyDerby
    HuddsLeeds
    M'BoroReading
    WednesdayBrentford
    MillwallStoke
    PrestonBlackburn
    Wigan
    Birmingham



    Great work @dazzler21.

    If thay shows anything it shows we just have to score first. Start the match with our strongest 11 & try to score the first goal. No need for changing formations, diamonds, players playing on the "wrong" wing or any other jazz. Just bloody shoot more & score first.

    Make me manager & I'll get you promotion. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    edited February 2021
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Just wasted some time...

    We have played in 82 games in ALL (inluding Pizza trophy) competitions since the play off final. 

    The following is based on the normal game plus injury time. Where penalties or added time altered the score line, the original scoreline has been 

    Busy day mate?

    How are you counting a game against Phoenix Sports?!
    Took maybe 30 minutes.

    The original tweet said all competitions so I had to include it. 

    I then re ran the numbers without 0-0 draws and cup games. 

    Dazzler21 said:

    CF = Concede First
    SF = Score First

    (Without Cups & 0-0 Draws it's Played 70, CFW 0, CFD 10, CFL 24, SFW 23 , SFD 7, SFL 6)

  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,220
    Didn't Curbs once say if you scored first, then in about 80% of games you wont lose. Never bothered to work it out but I am sure some game guru told him that.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Chippycafc said:
    Didn't Curbs once say if you scored first, then in about 80% of games you wont lose. Never bothered to work it out but I am sure some game guru told him that.
    Get Dazzler21 to work it out
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,157
    what about own goals first? 
    Maybe Amos should just chuck the ball into his own net at the start of each game and then we may have a better chance of wining? 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,416
    ricky_otto said:
    AFKABartram said:
    Suspect the play off game was 70 games ago
    Christ - we have conceded first in 38 games out of 70? If so , that is absolutely disgraceful. 
    Why?
    50% of games with a 50% chance of going behind.  Nothing wrong in that Dicky.  Very worrying to go 38 games without winning after going behind.

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  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,867
    Can @Dazzler21 make that table for every team in the league please? Oh, and can @golfaddick please tell us how many players in The Open win after losing the first hole?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,454
    You could win every game in a season without first going behind. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,932
    jimmymelrose said:
    Can @Dazzler21 make that table for every team in the league please? Oh, and can @golfaddick please tell us how many players in The Open win after losing the first hole?
    How can you lose the first hole? You are not playing your partner you are just trying to get round in the least shots as possible.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,270
    jimmymelrose said:
    Can @Dazzler21 make that table for every team in the league please? Oh, and can @golfaddick please tell us how many players in The Open win after losing the first hole?
    You don't lose holes in the Open.....its your score to par that counts. You lose holes in match play golf & there are not many matchplay events sadly. Just the Ryder Cup & Amateur comps. They even got rid of the match play event at Wentworth usually held in September. Grrrr
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    jimmymelrose said:
    Can @Dazzler21 make that table for every team in the league please? Oh, and can @golfaddick please tell us how many players in The Open win after losing the first hole?
    I've got quite enough tables I am juggling thanks!

    ;)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,562
    edited February 2021
    Chippycafc said:
    Didn't Curbs once say if you scored first, then in about 80% of games you wont lose. Never bothered to work it out but I am sure some game guru told him that.
     We've Scored first 40 times in the past season and a half, of that we've lost 8 (20%)

     (Without cups SF36 L6 = 83%)

    So Curbs is spot on.
    If we score first we lose 1 in 5.
    If we score first we draw about 1 in 5 too
    So winning 3/5 or about 60% of the games we score first in.  
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chippycafc said:
    Didn't Curbs once say if you scored first, then in about 80% of games you wont lose. Never bothered to work it out but I am sure some game guru told him that.
     We've Scored first 40 times in the past season and a half, of that we've lost 8 (20%)

     (Without cups SF36 L6 = 83%)

    So Curbs is spot on.
    If we score first we lose 1 in 5.
    If we score first we draw about 1 in 5 too
    So winning 3/5 or about 60% of the games we score first in.  
    If you take out Brentford and possibly a few others from last season (because they were considerably better than us so the 1st goal would have less effect) it would make the 80% about Bob on. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,707
    How many are we up to now?
  • MrOneLung
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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,707
    We could do with hiring another coach who could teach our players how to defend.

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,707
    Get in!!!

    The jinx is broken, Wemberlee here we come!!!

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