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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Lookman has been away from us for ages, but not really done the business other than in his first loan spell at RBL. That 5 year contract they gave him was a massive vote of confidence which hasn't really paid off
    Don't put the mortgage on this happening, Leicester going after CHO on a perm 😳
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,061
    Could that Deeney move possibly free up Leko? 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    They dont start with Taylor & Grabban so God knows where Maja would fit in 
    Maja will be ahead of those two.
    Lyle will be back in L1 soon. Very soon
  • They dont start with Taylor & Grabban so God knows where Maja would fit in 
    Maja will be ahead of those two.
    Lyle will be back in L1 soon. Very soon
    Probably at Ipswich
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited August 2021
    They dont start with Taylor & Grabban so God knows where Maja would fit in 
    Maja will be ahead of those two.
    Lyle will be back in L1 soon. Very soon
    I have been saying all summer, Sunderland. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Cafc43v3r said:
    They dont start with Taylor & Grabban so God knows where Maja would fit in 
    Maja will be ahead of those two.
    Lyle will be back in L1 soon. Very soon
    I have been saying all summer, Sunderland. 
    That's my bet but you never know.

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    £30m is such a waste of money. 

    How United managed to get £30m for a player that wasn't even close to the first-team is beyond me. Leeds should've got him for £15m max. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 



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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    £30m is such a waste of money. 

    How United managed to get £30m for a player that wasn't even close to the first-team is beyond me. Leeds should've got him for £15m max. 
    Based on?

    The same market were White goes for £50 million?   
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Cafc43v3r said:
    £30m is such a waste of money. 

    How United managed to get £30m for a player that wasn't even close to the first-team is beyond me. Leeds should've got him for £15m max. 
    Based on?

    The same market were White goes for £50 million?   
    Just because one team overpays for an average player means that others have to? 

    Due to the rise of Greenwood United were happy to let James go. Letting United have their cake and eat it too by way overpaying for a player that at United was quite limited. He's 23 so not much room to develop there. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    £30m is such a waste of money. 

    How United managed to get £30m for a player that wasn't even close to the first-team is beyond me. Leeds should've got him for £15m max. 
    Based on?

    The same market were White goes for £50 million?   
    no, the market where you can get Donnarumma, Ramos, Wijnaldum and Messi for free...
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    £30m is such a waste of money. 

    How United managed to get £30m for a player that wasn't even close to the first-team is beyond me. Leeds should've got him for £15m max. 
    Based on?

    The same market were White goes for £50 million?   
    Just because one team overpays for an average player means that others have to? 

    Due to the rise of Greenwood United were happy to let James go. Letting United have their cake and eat it too by way overpaying for a player that at United was quite limited. He's 23 so not much room to develop there. 
    I would say that judging by the premier league market this summer, and the last 3 years, £30 million isn't that bad, 15 would be a steel.  He is 23 and does have room for improvement but you also know what your getting. 

    United paid 15 million for him, and Leeds were prepared to pay that then, he is a proven Premier League player now, he isn't a top 4 player, that doesn't mean he isn't a good player. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Reading, already a team with massive financial issues, taking on a huge wage in Drinkwater for a season. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    edited August 2021
    Rotherham in talks with Regan Slater of Sheffield United who was linked with us. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,883
    Richard J said:
    Rotherham in talks with Regan Slater of Sheffield United who was linked with us. 
    A more convenient move for the player than coming down to London!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
    Hes been a flop since leaving Leicester surely you agree. Same as Fernando flopped at Chelsea.
    A good player becoming crap is a Chelsea thing, it's weird 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,337
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
    Drinkwater doesn't care....he's laughing all the way to the bank....
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,883
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
    Hes been a flop since leaving Leicester surely you agree. Same as Fernando flopped at Chelsea.
    A good player becoming crap is a Chelsea thing, it's weird 
    It's not just a Chelsea thing though, every clubs has its transfer failures. Robinho to City was a disaster. Nathan Ake for £40m? Benjamin Mendy for £52m...
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
    Hes been a flop since leaving Leicester surely you agree. Same as Fernando flopped at Chelsea.
    A good player becoming crap is a Chelsea thing, it's weird 
    yes I agree, just not that it's comparable to Torres who was a quality player and then did massively flop. Drinkwater was destined to flop because he was an average player who Chelsea massively overpaid for. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Shocking that he was a propa good player with Leicester,  Chelsea buy him and he's a flop. Reminds me or Fernando 


    Torres was a weird one, the transformation from world class striker to someone who looked like he'd been plucked from the pub was strange. I'm not sure Drinkwater is comparable, like players such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan and Huth he just had the season of his career and couldn't back it up. Was a terrible signing. 
    Just the fact that Danny Drinkwater may drop to the Championship is strange. 
    Norwich, Brentford, Palace etc not interested is baffling. 
    Like you said maybe not fair to compare with torres but he flopped and so have others at Chelsea. They then go on and improve and Chelsea buy them back for a 100 million or whatever 
    Chelsea have arguably made the worst signings over the last 10 years or so. They just bought too many and didn't get younger players a chance, like you say those players go away improve and make them look stupid - Salah, Lukaku, De Bruyne, Matic all examples with two of them costing a fortune to get back. 

    I'm not surprised with Drinkwater to be honest. His loan spells with Burney and Villa were unsuccessful. As a low risk punt I wouldn't have been shocked to see him go to a smaller Prem club but I also completely understand why they wouldn't touch him. 
    I can't say I've followed Drinkwater career but in that Leicester team with Kante I can't believe he's  fallen so far already.  
    Ross barkley is the next Chelsea outcast probably 
    I just think some of the Leicester team were genuinely quality players - Schmeichel, Kante, Mahrez and Vardy. Others such as Simpson, Fuchs, Morgan, Huth, Drinkwater and Albrighton just had the season of their careers and never followed it up. Drinkwater stands out as he was the only one from that list who got a big money move, but I personally thought from day 1 it was a poor desperate signing rather than a good player who has underachieved (not saying he hasn't underachieved, just that he should never have been a 30mil player in the first place). 
    Hes been a flop since leaving Leicester surely you agree. Same as Fernando flopped at Chelsea.
    A good player becoming crap is a Chelsea thing, it's weird 
    yes I agree, just not that it's comparable to Torres who was a quality player and then did massively flop. Drinkwater was destined to flop because he was an average player who Chelsea massively overpaid for. 
    I will agree to disagree he was average. 
    I also will add I hate Chelsea. Their club, their fans and their business is scummy. Hate them more than Millwall  and I really mean it.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,337
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Lookman has been away from us for ages, but not really done the business other than in his first loan spell at RBL. That 5 year contract they gave him was a massive vote of confidence which hasn't really paid off
    Don't put the mortgage on this happening, Leicester going after CHO on a perm 😳
    Will we get a fee ?