With it increasingly difficult to sign players from other clubs without spending silly money, the loan market could play a massive part for the teams fighting for promotion.
This is my shortlist of players most have some experience of this league, wonder how many will end up at clubs in league one if we be linked or sign any. Anyone to add?
Center-Backs:
Rasmus Nicolaisen (24) Midtjylland
Mark Mcguinness (20) Cardiff
Tinji Akinola (22) West Ham
Fredrick Alves Ibsen (21) West Ham
TJ Eyoma (21) Spurs
Left-Backs:
Cameron Pring (23) Bristol City
Dominic Thompson (20) Brentford
Center Mids:
George Byers (25) Swansea
Harvey White (19) Spurs
Callum Slattery (22) Southampton
Nick Freeman (25) Wycombe
Regan Slater (21) Sheff Utd
Reece Brown (25) Huddersfield
Robbie Gotts (21) Leeds United
Wide:
Gavin Whyte (25) Cardiff
Brennan Johnson (21) Notts Forest
Brandon Braker (24) Rangers
Strikers:
Morgan Rogers (18) Man City
Elliot Lee (26) Luton
Callum Morton (21) West Brom
Tyreece John-Jules (20) Arsenal
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Really wouldn't surprise me if he was one we went for.
Be ridiculous if Brennan Johnson doesnt get a chance at Nottm Forest instead of being loaned out
He's a Master Builder from the back.
Talk that Forest might even cash in on Johnson , interest from Brentford it seems.
John-Jules similarly wasn't as effective as I was expecting, after looking really good when Donnie outplayed us
I don't know U23 football that well so am grateful for this thread.
Any Arsenal or Chelsea youngsters to throw into the mix?
If they are good enough they will play, if they were good enough they would have played last season.
There is no conspiracy that we have an u23s squad full of "oven ready" league 1 players but just choose not to use them for "reasons".
If they ARE good enough NOW they will play. If they WERE good enough LAST SEASON they would have played.
Do you honestly believe we have players that are good/ready enough but choose not to play them? Because that's what your saying.
And if we don't sign him, you can bet one of our League One rivals will instead.
we have become too dependant on loans, Bielik, Curran, Gallagher .. yes they are great for SHORT TERM success, then they scarper to bigger clubs and we don't have the resources to replace them, because the mangers (e.g. Bowyer) in their 'wisdom' have not prepared our own academy graduates for extended runs, even occasional fill in roles in the first team ..
promotion followed by instant relegation, followed by missing out on the play offs, due lack of consistent selection and player recruitment/utilisation, loanee Gallagher goes, we collapse, for example ..
and ' those highly rated (youngsters) at a big Premier League club, who may already be making progress through the international ranks' ?? they will NOT be playing at L1 level, they will be at Championship or struggling Premier level .. how many loan players from last season really made a difference ? .. NO chaps, GIVE OUR YOUNGSTERS A CHANCE .. or close the academy (like Brentford) and rely on signings, admit that there is no point in wasting money on kids who are not deemed good enough for the first team except the odd success like Morgan .. come on Nigel, be brave and give the kids a go, or at least the players like Davison and Morgan who have 'paid their dues' and deserve a shot
The subject of loaning players is a matter of opinion. I am sick of having to depend on MY Club acting as a rehearsal/audition gig for the trialling of players from 'bigger' clubs and that is why I am so pleased we have signed Stockley. At least if he has success before Christmas, Preston can't move him on to another club for a bigger fee
Our academy has been pillaged for the best part of a decade, maybe even longer. For reasons that really don't need going over for the 1000th time.
We have just signed the biggest intake of first year pros in the clubs recent history. But they are still kids. Some of them will make it, some of them won't. That's football.
We don't have any players between 19-21 that were either good enough, yet, or hadn't already been elevated to the first team (Morgan and Doughty).
Maatsen, De Silva, Cullen, Beilik, Millar, Smyth, Smith, Smith, Levitt, Gallagher, Feild, Leko had already made steps in their relevant international set ups.
Do you think, for example, we had a left back in our academy that was good enough to play in the first team last season? Well we didn't, that's why we have already signed 2 young professional left backs this summer.
Luke Shaw and James Ward-Prowse did not become England Internationals just because Adkins played them as 17 year olds.
In a perfect world we wouldn't need to use loans but it's far from a perfect world. Even Man United have bought in loans in recent history. Do you think Curbs should have stuck some kid on the left wing in the play off final? Powell used loans, rather well as well.
Lastly tell me the player your convinced should have played and didn't last season. If you say Barker we should just close this thread and give up and go home.
Or did you mean to press the disagree button but haven't got a scooby what you actually disagree with?
But that's debates for you lmao.
The one obvious success was Stockley who we have signed as OUR player (excuse the use of the possessive pronouns) and as a matter of interest, a few years back, when he was at Exeter, I advocated that we sign him (no one at CAFC took heed), better late than never. We will never know if 'playing the kids' would have been a better option than selecting loanees because it never happened.
And as for the REALLY successful loanees we have had recently, Bielik (not Beilik as you typed earlier) Cullen and Gallagher, it's so frustrating because they are allowed to play beautifully, to lead us on and then they are told by their real masters to run away to play with someone else leaving us bereft and heartbroken. Of course their excellent (mostly) or rubbish (other loanees you have mentioned) performances did not allow space for any of OUR own young players to get a game, probably because part of the loan arrangements decree that the loanee plays a minimum number of games even if they play so poorly that they stink the place out .
I'll say AGAIN, I dislike our first team being used to showcase other club's players even if they were used way back by Curbishley. Powell and various uncle Tom Cobbleys. It's expediency, not progress. I find it unsatisfactory, although of course, given the current state of play, like wearing masks and putting up with incompetent politicians, the loan market in professional football is a regrettable fact of life and a cross I must bear. My arguments and opinions, like yours are all hypothetical and wishful thinking. You disagree with me, so what, now run along and l y f a o some more