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  • se9addick said:
    Glovepup said:
    Gribbo said:
    seth plum said:
    So far the Sunday Morning programme has in my view been crap, leaving aside Truss herself.
    Is that comedian bloke being ironic and sarcastic or is he the right wing extremist he says he is?
    I've always liked him as a comedian, but he has gone down in my estimation if what he said about being far right wing is true.
    Who is it?
    Here is your answer: 
    Looking on a phone so anyone able to tell me who the lady in the red jumper is?
    A former staffer to Boris Johnson! 
    Coulda guessed!
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    Our problems are over (assuming you can afford to actually have the heating on in the first place)!

    To be clear, before the government apologists start, there is a place for practical, sensible advice on making the best use of the energy that you can afford. But that should be in the form of a professional, government produced campaign of information, that should have been started months ago. As in some other countries.

    Instead while the government spends its time having a foregone leadership campaign we get patronised by Edwina Fecking Currie! 
  • Albania isn’t in the EU.
    The reason the EU has some say in aspects of what the UK can or cannot do is because the UK has not yet fully left the EU.
  • The reason Boris got in is because the majority wanted out of the EU and we wanted to have our own laws and control our borders. 
    Which hasn’t happened. 
    The next election is wide open it’s which party cons us the most. 
    Stamer is saying anything that he thinks will win him votes. 
    We need a clean sweep and get rid of all these public school nonces 
    We already had our own laws and control of our borders but I’m shocked to hear that Sir Keir Starmer is saying things to win him votes. Can you give me an example please ?
    He said his going to pay millionaire energy bills same as poor for the poor. 
    If we got our own laws why are we still told what we can and can’t do by the Eu and why is there all these boats   coming across the channel with Albanians in. 
    Christ 
  • Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
  • Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    It’s her plans to help businesses, where I believe there’s no cap on energy prices, that I’m most interested. Energy bills, even frozen at their current level, are unaffordable if you don’t have a job because your employer went bust. 

    It’s interesting that rumours of an early election, possibly in 12 months time, began to circulate over the weekend at the same time a “furlough sized” intervention is also being rumoured. Maybe the Truss plan is to come up with a huge package of financial intervention, build popular support amongst the electorate, go to the polls to secure her own mandate (and five more years) and then deal with paying for whatever it is that she’s come up with afterwards. 
  • se9addick said:
    Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    It’s her plans to help businesses, where I believe there’s no cap on energy prices, that I’m most interested. Energy bills, even frozen at their current level, are unaffordable if you don’t have a job because your employer went bust. 

    It’s interesting that rumours of an early election, possibly in 12 months time, began to circulate over the weekend at the same time a “furlough sized” intervention is also being rumoured. Maybe the Truss plan is to come up with a huge package of financial intervention, build popular support amongst the electorate, go to the polls to secure her own mandate (and five more years) and then deal with paying for whatever it is that she’s come up with afterwards. 
    I'm starting to think the same, it's going to be one massive give away in tax breaks and handouts, they'll then call an election next summer.
  • Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    One pathway is for Truss and her cronies to not do anything and Teachers and others go on strike.
    Is there any point in working if it doesn’t pay bills? Might as well not work.
    It might mean that the something that has to give is the last vestiges of a coherent society, whilst the wealthy live in gated communities, with private security, private health, private education and the like.
    There is talk of Truss getting tough with Unions but she won’t be able to stop wildcats and walkouts.

  • Rob7Lee said:
    se9addick said:
    Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    It’s her plans to help businesses, where I believe there’s no cap on energy prices, that I’m most interested. Energy bills, even frozen at their current level, are unaffordable if you don’t have a job because your employer went bust. 

    It’s interesting that rumours of an early election, possibly in 12 months time, began to circulate over the weekend at the same time a “furlough sized” intervention is also being rumoured. Maybe the Truss plan is to come up with a huge package of financial intervention, build popular support amongst the electorate, go to the polls to secure her own mandate (and five more years) and then deal with paying for whatever it is that she’s come up with afterwards. 
    I'm starting to think the same, it's going to be one massive give away in tax breaks and handouts, they'll then call an election next summer.
    I bet she regrets making the pledge to reverse the National Insurance rise now that she has to pay for this massive intervention on energy costs. 
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  • Rob7Lee said:
    se9addick said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    se9addick said:
    Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    It’s her plans to help businesses, where I believe there’s no cap on energy prices, that I’m most interested. Energy bills, even frozen at their current level, are unaffordable if you don’t have a job because your employer went bust. 

    It’s interesting that rumours of an early election, possibly in 12 months time, began to circulate over the weekend at the same time a “furlough sized” intervention is also being rumoured. Maybe the Truss plan is to come up with a huge package of financial intervention, build popular support amongst the electorate, go to the polls to secure her own mandate (and five more years) and then deal with paying for whatever it is that she’s come up with afterwards. 
    I'm starting to think the same, it's going to be one massive give away in tax breaks and handouts, they'll then call an election next summer.
    I bet she regrets making the pledge to reverse the National Insurance rise now that she has to pay for this massive intervention on energy costs. 
    Probably not, they'll just shake the magic money tree.

    She'll/they'll do everything possible to stay in power, so it will be the great big give away.

    Reverse of NI increase
    Income Tax cut,
    Possibly other tax cuts (Vat?)
    Freeze of energy costs
    Payments to all across the board (in addition to those already agreed).
    Windfall tax

    We'll all be rich I tell ya!
    I’ll need to be in order to pay my mortgage when interest rates hit 9% as inflation spirals out of control!
  • se9addick said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    se9addick said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    se9addick said:
    Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    It’s her plans to help businesses, where I believe there’s no cap on energy prices, that I’m most interested. Energy bills, even frozen at their current level, are unaffordable if you don’t have a job because your employer went bust. 

    It’s interesting that rumours of an early election, possibly in 12 months time, began to circulate over the weekend at the same time a “furlough sized” intervention is also being rumoured. Maybe the Truss plan is to come up with a huge package of financial intervention, build popular support amongst the electorate, go to the polls to secure her own mandate (and five more years) and then deal with paying for whatever it is that she’s come up with afterwards. 
    I'm starting to think the same, it's going to be one massive give away in tax breaks and handouts, they'll then call an election next summer.
    I bet she regrets making the pledge to reverse the National Insurance rise now that she has to pay for this massive intervention on energy costs. 
    Probably not, they'll just shake the magic money tree.

    She'll/they'll do everything possible to stay in power, so it will be the great big give away.

    Reverse of NI increase
    Income Tax cut,
    Possibly other tax cuts (Vat?)
    Freeze of energy costs
    Payments to all across the board (in addition to those already agreed).
    Windfall tax

    We'll all be rich I tell ya!
    I’ll need to be in order to pay my mortgage when interest rates hit 9% as inflation spirals out of control!
    For all the worry about energy bills, rightly as that's heat and food, there is a ticking time bomb in my view on mortgages coming in the next 12-24 months as peoples very low fixes end and they realise they can't afford the newer rates.

    I can see rents continuing to increase as well, we listed a couple of properties in Dartford recently on a Friday afternoon, by lunchtime Saturday we had to take them down as we'd had over 100 enquiries on each overnight.
  • Christ  Jesus wept some people just luv cheap car washes haircuts and drugs. Suppose it helps save money to go towards the energy bills. 
    I know these are extraordinary times but you do realise that the U.K. is supposed to be the 6th (?) richest country on earth. If people can’t afford a haircut and those that do are getting called out for it then we might as well give up.
  • Christ  Jesus wept some people just luv cheap car washes haircuts and drugs. Suppose it helps save money to go towards the energy bills. 
    I know these are extraordinary times but you do realise that the U.K. is supposed to be the 6th (?) richest country on earth. If people can’t afford a haircut and those that do are getting called out for it then we might as well give up.
    Whilst I broadly agree, the 6th place is a little misleading. Thats on Gross GDP, if you do GDP per capita we are more like 28th.
  • We are reaping the benefits of our privatisation experiment - high prices, poor regulation, no strategy .....
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    se9addick said:
    Octopus energy gives you a spin on a virtual wheel of (mis)fortune to win a bill discount ranging from £0 to £500 every time you submit a meter reading. Like everyone else I know with Octopus, the outcome is always a discount of £0.

    The Hunger Games is starting to look like a 1984 for the 21st Century

  • IdleHans said:

    se9addick said:
    Octopus energy gives you a spin on a virtual wheel of (mis)fortune to win a bill discount ranging from £0 to £500 every time you submit a meter reading. Like everyone else I know with Octopus, the outcome is always a discount of £0.

    The Hunger Games is starting to look like a 1984 for the 21st Century

    Yep I’m with Octopus and have never won anything on their spin the wheel thing! 
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  • Speaking of spinning wheels...

    TV game shows used to give away speedboats and holidays as prizes. Now we're reduced to this embarrassment.
  • we'll soon see what Tin Lizzie has got hidden up her jumper
  • Speaking of spinning wheels...

    TV game shows used to give away speedboats and holidays as prizes. Now we're reduced to this embarrassment.
    the 'we buy any old banger' ads must be paying really well
  • Tough one for Truss. Has to secure the Oil companies’ vast profits and their party donations, and continue the transfer of public money to corporate pockets, whilst convincing her voters they are helping the ordinary folk. 
    Simple though really they always pull it off. 
  • kentred2 said:
    Tough one for Truss. Has to secure the Oil companies’ vast profits and their party donations, and continue the transfer of public money to corporate pockets, whilst convincing her voters they are helping the ordinary folk. 
    Simple though really they always pull it off. 
    There are rumours that Sir Graham Brady had already received up to twelve letters. 
  • Chizz said:
    kentred2 said:
    Tough one for Truss. Has to secure the Oil companies’ vast profits and their party donations, and continue the transfer of public money to corporate pockets, whilst convincing her voters they are helping the ordinary folk. 
    Simple though really they always pull it off. 
    There are rumours that Sir Graham Brady had already received up to twelve letters. 
    As much as I would find this amusing, I’m afraid I don’t buy into it. The Tories are now in a position where they either collapse as a political party for perhaps years or the MP’s bite the bullet and show a veneer of support and unity no matter how false. They have two years possibly even 28 months to hold it together and hope that things slowly turn around for them. With the economic situation as is, that seems difficult enough without continued dissent and in fighting. The alternative to this show of unity is basically a general election where as things stand the Tories would be swept away in a Blairesque landslide for Labour. The Tories are very good at uniting when they have to and they really have to.
  • Chizz said:
    kentred2 said:
    Tough one for Truss. Has to secure the Oil companies’ vast profits and their party donations, and continue the transfer of public money to corporate pockets, whilst convincing her voters they are helping the ordinary folk. 
    Simple though really they always pull it off. 
    There are rumours that Sir Graham Brady had already received up to twelve letters. 
    farcical. 
  • IdleHans said:

    se9addick said:
    Octopus energy gives you a spin on a virtual wheel of (mis)fortune to win a bill discount ranging from £0 to £500 every time you submit a meter reading. Like everyone else I know with Octopus, the outcome is always a discount of £0.

    The Hunger Games is starting to look like a 1984 for the 21st Century

    Yep - got the £0 each and every month that I've submitted my reading!
  • Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    As expected the price freeze has been announced and a fairly considerable one according to initial reports. If she funds it with a windfall tax on the energy producers then personally will give her the benefit of the doubt on this issue at least
  • Was always pretty clear that once Truss was confirmed as leader (or the ballots closed) she would announce some sort of price freeze. No matter how deluded she may be, if you have schoolteachers, police officers and other people in good, well-paid jobs unable to pay their energy bills then something has to give.
    As expected the price freeze has been announced and a fairly considerable one according to initial reports. If she funds it with a windfall tax on the energy producers then personally will give her the benefit of the doubt on this issue at least


    More likely that the consumer will have the cost added to their bills over the next 10 - 20 years.
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