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Quite. The electricity tariff will be loaded with a tax levy in due course. Then EVs will not have the same financial running cost advantage they have today.Rob7Lee said:We've effectively been charged per mile for donkeys years, it's called fuel duty. But of course if we went fully electric it would cripple the exchequer and they are now selling less fuel, something needs to give.0 -
What a bunch of hypocritical people. You slimy sausages - "Oooh we don't like politics on the forum..." *
*except when it enables us to bash the left.
It's like reading the Daily Mail.
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The bottom has already fallen out of the secondhand electric car market, nothing electric (literally nothing) is selling at the Auctions even at 20% below CAP.valleynick66 said:
Quite. The electricity tariff will be loaded with a tax levy in due course. Then EVs will not have the same financial running cost advantage they have today.Rob7Lee said:We've effectively been charged per mile for donkeys years, it's called fuel duty. But of course if we went fully electric it would cripple the exchequer and they are now selling less fuel, something needs to give.0 -
Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1762411416135356748?s=20
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What margin did he enjoy last time out?Rothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
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55-45 with a different voting system was 40-35 in the first round before second preferences.
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Next Thursday there is a little election in my Borough.
Somewhere I think of as the wonderful Peoples Republic of Lewisham.
It is for Mayor of Lewisham because Damien Egan the previous Mayor had to resign in order to stand in (and win) the Kingswood by-election down Bristol way.1 -
New YouGov poll gives Sadiq Khan a 25-point lead in the London mayoral raceRothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1762411416135356748?s=20
Khan (LAB): 49%
Hall (CON): 24%
Garbett (GRN): 9%
Blackie (LD): 8%
Cox: (REF): 7%
Outer London: Khan: 46%
Hall: 27%
Inner London:
Khan: 54%
Hall: 19%
So little support for Reform, which must disappoint poor old Lee Anderson.3 -
Even if you add Reform to the Tory vote, they're still 18 points behind Khan. And yet the Tories still think that running to the right is the way forward...JamesSeed said:
New YouGov poll gives Sadiq Khan a 25-point lead in the London mayoral raceRothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1762411416135356748?s=20
Khan (LAB): 49%
Hall (CON): 24%
Garbett (GRN): 9%
Blackie (LD): 8%
Cox: (REF): 7%
Outer London: Khan: 46%
Hall: 27%
Inner London:
Khan: 54%
Hall: 19%
So little support for Reform, which must disappoint poor old Lee Anderson.4 -
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Thanks.Rothko said:55-45 with a different voting system was 40-35 in the first round before second preferences.Speaks more about the credibility of the alternatives than Khan himself I suspect.Be interesting to see if ULEZ is the major part of the election campaigns (or a part) as we get nearer to May.I’m still keen to se more MI on the compliance / traffic volumes to learn what impact it’s having. I assume some more data will be published by then.0 -
Most of the anti Khan stuff comes from people completely outside of London. The Tory spin machine has been very impressive, he's even getting blamed for changing The Red Red Robin.Rothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1762411416135356748?s=20
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Yeah buts he’s terrible, cause someone from a town where the best restaurant is a Cote, says soFriend Or Defoe said:
Most of the anti Khan stuff comes from people completely outside of London. The Tory spin machine has been very impressive, he's even getting blamed for changing The Red Red Robin.Rothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
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In a way Lee Anderson has done us all a favour with his back to the 70s approach. People are now able to make a clear choice as to which side they're on.JamesSeed said:
New YouGov poll gives Sadiq Khan a 25-point lead in the London mayoral raceRothko said:Well it's hardly costing Khan a vote, even in outer London
https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1762411416135356748?s=20
Khan (LAB): 49%
Hall (CON): 24%
Garbett (GRN): 9%
Blackie (LD): 8%
Cox: (REF): 7%
Outer London: Khan: 46%
Hall: 27%
Inner London:
Khan: 54%
Hall: 19%
So little support for Reform, which must disappoint poor old Lee Anderson.
ULEZ was relatively simple until the Tories decided to weaponise their own policy during the Uxbridge by-election. Btw it's come to my attention that Bromley Council were after Khan & TFL to repair all of the lights sabotaged. But they've neglected to join the dots and condemn the anti ULEZ campaign which has so clearly gone off piste!
As for the actual charge? We paid for a few months as our car was a year too old. Just availed of the scrappage scheme and the £2K received covered half the deposit on the replacement. The monthly finance is the exact same as ULEZ and we get to drive around in a very decent motor. So thank you Mayor Khan 😀7 -
Data for the results of the air quality "improvement" has been delayed until after the mayoral elections.7
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Quite a few candidates as usual so people can choose who is the candidate they prefer.
One choice is a woman who blamed Khan for her being the victim of crime on the tube when her purse fell out of her pocket, and a nice Londoner found it and returned it to her, yet she still blamed Khan for an imaginary pickpocketing.Got to admire such creativity.6 -
Not ULEZ, but sort of related?Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popularhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-generally-popular-report-ordered-by-sunak-finds
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They're be angry in Pataya tonight.0
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They certainly do work 🤣
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ULEZ achieving improved air quality:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/08/sadiq-khan-hails-remarkable-progress-in-improving-london-air-quality
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It’s the change in outer London since last summer which needs to be examined.EveshamAddick said:ULEZ achieving improved air quality:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/08/sadiq-khan-hails-remarkable-progress-in-improving-london-air-qualityI don’t think anyone disputes the original boundary of ULEZ and its impact.0 -
If it is only a back door revenue raising scheme how come the air is improving?2
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JamesSeed said:Not ULEZ, but sort of related?Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popularhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-generally-popular-report-ordered-by-sunak-finds
LTN scrapped after three-mile bus journey took two hours
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/07/ltn-scrapped-lambeth-london-bus-journey-hours/
Delays in low-traffic zones ‘could be risking lives’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/#section-news
A low traffic neighbourhood (LTN) scheme is to be scrapped after being blamed for causing horrendous congestion on a main road in south London.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/low-traffic-neighbourhood-lambeth-bus-sadiq-khan-b1143732.htmlStreatham LTN trial suspended after lengthy bus delays
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68511760
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Perhaps because engines are more efficient and less polluting generally without the ‘stick’ approach?seth plum said:If it is only a back door revenue raising scheme how come the air is improving?
To reiterate of course ULEZ helps but point (for me) is whether it is material this far out of central London and implemented in the right way.0 -
Perhaps it is a naive assumption but isn’t the aim to try and get cleaner air everywhere?
The journey of 1000 miles starting with a single step as it were.4 -
I see it the other way tbh, which must show its pretty balancedAlgarveaddick said:What a bunch of hypocritical people. You slimy sausages - "Oooh we don't like politics on the forum..." *
*except when it enables us to bash the left.
It's like reading the Daily Mail.
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Let's ignore an independent report and post some photos and example where it didn't not working. 👍🏻
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Yes but how it was done in outer London is my point.seth plum said:Perhaps it is a naive assumption but isn’t the aim to try and get cleaner air everywhere?
The journey of 1000 miles starting with a single step as it were.Minimal notice, very expensive at the wrong time - post Covid , mid cost of living pressures. That’s it really.1 -
Yes apparently that particular LTN never worked, which is why it's been scrapped.clive said:JamesSeed said:Not ULEZ, but sort of related?Rishi Sunak’s report finds low-traffic neighbourhoods work and are popularhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-generally-popular-report-ordered-by-sunak-findsLTN scrapped after three-mile bus journey took two hours
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/07/ltn-scrapped-lambeth-london-bus-journey-hours/
Delays in low-traffic zones ‘could be risking lives’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/#section-news
A low traffic neighbourhood (LTN) scheme is to be scrapped after being blamed for causing horrendous congestion on a main road in south London.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/low-traffic-neighbourhood-lambeth-bus-sadiq-khan-b1143732.htmlStreatham LTN trial suspended after lengthy bus delays
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68511760
That doesn't mean Sunak's report into LTN's was flawed. With a scheme like this there are always likely to be one or two that don't work, but the report finds that overall they do work, and are popular.0 -
Outer London. I live near Clapham Common, outside the original ULEZ zone, a hundred yards or so from the South Circular. I'm now in the new ULEZ zone and the air, while still not perfect, seems quite a bit better than it used to, and a lot better than it was pre the original ULEZ.valleynick66 said:
Yes but how it was done in outer London is my point.seth plum said:Perhaps it is a naive assumption but isn’t the aim to try and get cleaner air everywhere?
The journey of 1000 miles starting with a single step as it were.Minimal notice, very expensive at the wrong time - post Covid , mid cost of living pressures. That’s it really.
I think the argument is done and dusted really, and while they could have delayed it to
a) give more notice (I thought there was enough notice myself)
b) make it less post Covid,
c) allow timefor cost of living pressures ease, there's always a danger that those pressures don't ease, and endless delays would have led to increasing costs.
And like with LTNs, I suspect a report further down the line will find that ULEZ is genarally popular with the public, the silent majority who have been drowned out by the very vocal anti ULEZ lobby, some of whom are now resorting to violence and vandalism. It's almost like they've been brainwashed.5
