What exactly does this mean
Easily banded about
After we won at Fleetwood and seeing the reaction of Arter and Co - I thought Adkins clearly Has the dressing room
Went to Lincoln yesterday and I really don't have a clue now
We all know that footballers are a 'precious ' lot
So is it the Manager - or is it both??
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After all, where would it go ?
losing the dressing room is a gentler term for 'players have lost all respect for the manager' and loss of respect all too easily becomes treats with contempt.
I'm sure we all have had managers at one time or another who were a total dead loss. I know I have and my work and that of my colleagues suffered as a consequence. One still gets things done but all the 'joy' of work disappears, work becomes a drag and you may start to do just the minimum to get by, or actively look for another job and then a whispering campaign starts and hateful things about the manager are said behind his back and then even in his hearing. Bad enough in any workplace, in an environment like a football club where interdependence is crucial, change needs to happen a s a p, either new players or new managerial staff must be brought in.
I made a comment elsewhere on here about my observations on the team just leaving their coach (transport lol) yesterday. All just did not seem at all well between players and the manager
Bowyer I think did lose the dressing room by slagging them off all the time.
For whatever reason there is a lack of the basic fundamentals being done on the pitch. Lack of desire to be first to the ball, lack of desire to win the second balls, lack of simple positional intelligence, a refusal to play the way the players are facing. An enthusiasm to hide and play the ball sideways and backwards, not just to retain possession and spring a counter attack but because its the easy thing to do. I don’t put all the players in this bracket there are a couple of notable exceptions but this group in the main lack so many basic attitudes, skills and character.
Then we turned up for a game one day and the container had gone. We had literally lost the dressing room.
I might be wrong, but Im pretty sure the phrase originated on that same cold winters day in the 80s.
I don't think he's lost the dressing room, i just think they're being badly coached. Many people, myself included have posted that they have no idea of our style of play or what we're trying to do. If we have no idea, then quite likely i'm sure the players don't either. For weeks we played long ball to Stockley, then Adkins comes out and says he doesn't want us playing long ball. It doesn't look like we do much work on defensive shape and organisation either as we get picked apart far too easily. Time and again on Saturday Souare was overloaded 2 on 1, did our coaching staff do anything about it?
It's like they're told to just go out and play and Adkins just puts his (misplaced) faith that 1-2 individuals will win the game for us. Tactically we're a fucking mess.
You can have players not liking a manager and not busting a gut for them. Or you can have them thinking the manager is useless. This is not the way to get a team spirit going and one thing that can help is senior pros calling a crisis meeting and getting a positive vibe and spirit going.
I don't know if this is happening or has happened, but if the players including the senior players are complaining about a manager behind his back a performance like Saturday and they are being proven right and it escalates.
Might stop happening so often!!
There was one we played on around there somewhere and we had to get changed in our motors. Would've been around 1990 / 91
The little fence goes around what was an old athletics track and the main pitch was in the middle. It used to have two metal drain covers on the pitch - one in each half. Yep, that's right, a metal drain cover in the middle of a football pitch - two of them.
We used to play in a Dartford league so all the other teams came from that way and turned up in mini-buses with a full entourage of supporters, etc. We had my dad, the manager and one other supporting us!
I'd like to say that all this gave us a "edge" and that we gave teams a sound beating on our rubbish pitch with no facilities and no fans. But unfortunately that just isn't true.
" I can see there’s a group of players, as demonstrated in parts of the 2nd half, with a desire to work hard in situations that aren’t ideal"
The most interesting quote Adkins has said.
He’s referencing the fact we’re in the relegation zone.
We've regressed to a state far worse than anything under bowyer. We can't get out our half and then just hump it long and we still can't fucking defend. When Adkins first came in he got us up the pitch quickly and playing in opponents half and now we've gone backwards. Curbs has nailed it when he said there's nothing worse than being set up to play short from goal kicks then having to go long. Just get up the fucking pitch and play in their half because we look half decent when we actually do.
It was interesting Adkins saying before the match "that players need to stand up and not hide when they're at a big club like Charlton or they can just go to a small club and go through the motions". The players on the pitch today at least looked like they tried but we have no plan, identity or confidence and that's on him and the coaching staff.
Whatever is going on this utter shambles needs to end and now.
We’ve had a shocking start , 8 defeats in 13 league games and have gone from bad to worse, this is a nightmare that is not going away any time soon.
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
He's setting up inadequate players in a shape they are woefully ill equipped to fulfil.
It would be a high risk strategy, even with the best back 4 in the division.
Coleman is pragmatic to the extreme and makes the best from what he has.
Adkins is just a prat.
Some described him as a breath of fresh air soon after taking from Bowyer.
But it's obvious that the players are confused by the set up and gameplan.
They know it's not working - the team are set up to be ran through in midfield, the defence unprotected, players too far apart all over the park.
As a player, it must be challenging to have a set up, gameplan and follow instructions that are clearly not working.
The players should still be trying their best and doing everything they can. Internal fallouts do happen, but they should get over it and at least remain on the same side.
So, Adkins located the dressing room....and then, out of nowhere, he "lost it" and the players unite and tell each other that they don't like him anymore? They are too good for his coaching methods?
It is the modern age of unprofessional knobheads - domino affect of whinging about things.
Adkins has to go, but everyone involved is equally at fault for our demise.
Take responsibility?...or just run off and hide?