I've got a neighbour who lives on the top floor of a maisonette. He's recently bought a hyundai iconic and has an extention lead running from his,down the stairs and across a garden and across the pavement. He has put a bit of carpet over the lead on the pavement to be fair but still it's a joke to look at.
Accident waiting to happen
I will try and remember to take a pic of it. It's the 1st thing that crossed my mind accident waiting to happen and a big claim against somebody
I cannot believe it is legal - but bizarrely there is no law against it.
You sure?
Just checked. You’re right. And as you say it’s a bizarre anomaly.
We got a 3 year lease - paying same a month as we did for our qashqai that we traded in. Got a good deal week before the 70 plates came out in February last year.
Still can’t believe there are people who still trot out the 300 mile thing, it’s always a certain type of man, who’s bladder couldn’t last 100 miles on a good day. Whilst your having a wee, chuck it on a fast charger and you’ll be fine
Still can’t believe there are people who still trot out the 300 mile thing, it’s always a certain type of man, who’s bladder couldn’t last 100 miles on a good day. Whilst your having a wee, chuck it on a fast charger and you’ll be fine
Isn’t the point about charger availability on a long trip.
Yep. When we have driven down to Devon often had to wait to get into a charger at a motorway service station. Then once in Devon would have to drive a Morrison’s 8 miles away first thing in morning in order to charge up for that days trips.
Still can’t believe there are people who still trot out the 300 mile thing, it’s always a certain type of man, who’s bladder couldn’t last 100 miles on a good day. Whilst your having a wee, chuck it on a fast charger and you’ll be fine
It's not 300 miles though is it. You obviously need to plan your long journeys so that you can stop off and stick the motor on charge and, going by some of the posts on this thread, you're not guaranteed the charge point you plan to use is going to be available and working. So, how many miles and minutes do you give yourself to start looking for the 2nd or 3rd backup charge point on a long journey? Sure my car does about 1200 miles on a full tank and I'm pretty much guaranteed there'll be somewhere to top up when needed.
I can't really talk for the UK, but seeing a public charge point around here in France is still a bit of a novelty. Until there's a lot more of them, or the cars can do a lot more than 300 miles, I can’t see many people who drive long distances (arguably the people you want to make the switch), making the change myself
Being the way I am, for a car that can do 300 miles, I'd be looking at a charge point at 250 miles and that nothing to do with needed a piss
With regards to France an electric car is effectively two thirds a nuclear car (67.1% of electricity in 2020 produced by nuclear)
I will buy an electric car when they close down the outdated nuclear power plants that are a disaster waiting to happen and replace them with renewable sources.
And until then they should name electric cars 'toxic waste' or 'radiation' instead of 'leaf' bollocks.
Thought nuclear energy was the cleanest and most efficient?
It's only clean if there are no accidents and if there were no nuclear waste, neither of which are true.
The French government gave an extension to the life of the older reactors that should have already been dismantled. No reasonable explanation for this was given. The fact is that they are stuck for an alternative. These reactors are dilapidated and unsafe. Greenpeace activists also broke into a reactor overnight to highlight the lack of security.
I’ve just got a plug in hybrid on a lease and have tried at the local ikea, 2 from 15 or so chargers working, went to sainsburys 2 from 30 working. Gave up after 40 minutes of trying
I’ve just got a plug in hybrid on a lease and have tried at the local ikea, 2 from 15 or so chargers working, went to sainsburys 2 from 30 working. Gave up after 40 minutes of trying
Join the club. Luckily I dont have to use on street chargers that much any more after getting my home charger fitted. Up town if you find a charger that is working someone will be using it. So you either wait which could be 5 mins or an hour depending on when they got on it or you just carry on driving around on petrol which is what i do most of the time.
On another note, gave the motor a charge last night on octopus go tariff and it cost £1.60. Happy days.
I can’t help thinking that waiting another three or four years we’ll see much better technology available in electric cars and hybrids. For obvious reasons there has been a rush to market but have the logistics and other issues really been resolved yet ? I’m keen to get an electric car but I think I’ll wait another few years to see better outcomes and cheaper prices.
Always going to be an early adopters issues, but the charging networks are growing quickly, the range of cars is getting better, and the ownership models are changing. If you lease an EV, you'll be able to move with the battery tech, and the second hand market will grow off the back of this
I leased a Hyundai Kona in May this year and have a home charger. The Govt grant won't provide 75% discount (50% max I am sure) for home charger. Mine was £550 via podpoint in London with grant. Podpoint was the easiest to deal with in terms of install (the others were asking for a LOT of info pre-acceptance). Vehicle gets 200 miles real world, but the charging infra is incredibly variable on location. Many times I have found broken chargers or no chargers free and it is a long wait to get hold of the owner of the charger. Lease is the way to go whilst the tech beds in.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
If only you had somewhere to sit in the dry …
Not when it’s charging. The 5 minutes it takes to connect the cable, authorise payment etc.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
If only you had somewhere to sit in the dry …
Not when it’s charging. The 5 minutes it takes to connect the cable, authorise payment etc.
Less than 2 minutes - most are tethered so, open the flap - plug in, contactless payment - job done.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
If only you had somewhere to sit in the dry …
Not when it’s charging. The 5 minutes it takes to connect the cable, authorise payment etc.
Less than 2 minutes - most are tethered so, open the flap - plug in, contactless payment - job done.
No idea if any of you watch Shmee150 on YouTube (automotive YouTuber for those who don’t know). He’s posted some very interesting videos regarding real life experiences with his Porsche Taycan (albeit full electric rather than hybrid). The most interesting thing for me that no one has never mentioned before is that pretty much all electric chargers, even abroad, are all open air, as opposed to under canopies like petrol stations. It’s going to be fun charging your electric car when it’s chucking it down.
If only you had somewhere to sit in the dry …
Not when it’s charging. The 5 minutes it takes to connect the cable, authorise payment etc.
Less than 2 minutes - most are tethered so, open the flap - plug in, contactless payment - job done.
As I said, they are a disaster waiting to happen, and beware in the UK if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction if that sad day arrives. But nevermind, you can take comfort from the radiation in a 'green' nuclear electric car.
With respect, I don't think the nuclear power stations in France were designed by the Soviet Union.
I'm sure they'll be OK. I'm all for nuclear power if it makes our electricity bills cheaper.
Here's more evidence of why you shouldn't feel so sure @cafcnick1992
I read the whole article in Le Monde last week but now I've been able to find it online, its easy to offer you a translation of the start of the article. I post this because the UK imports a lot of its electricity from France and so how that electricity is produced should be of concern to the people of the UK, particularly if it is being stated that such electricity is clean and safe.
The accusation does not come from an anti-nuclear organisation or an environmental association. For the first time, it is an EDF executive, a former member of the management of a French nuclear power plant, Tricastin (Drôme), who has decided to break the silence and take legal action to denounce what, according to him, is a "policy of concealment" of incidents and deviations in safety. This is an unprecedented step in an environment that is bound to secrecy. According to information from Le Monde, a complaint was filed in early October before the judicial court in Paris. It targets EDF and the management of the Tricastin power plant on the grounds of "endangering the lives of others", "breaches of the criminal code, the environmental code, the labour code and regulations relating to nuclear installations" and "harassment".
The complainant hopes that the courts will recognise his status as a whistleblower. In the meantime, still an EDF employee, he wishes to remain anonymous - we will call him Hugo. Le Monde was able to meet him on several occasions. From the outset, and despite the seriousness of the facts he denounces, Hugo presents himself as "a lover of nuclear energy". But a lover today "torn", who tries to hide his nervousness behind a broad smile. This man in his forties appears to be deeply affected by the events he witnessed and then became a victim: he claims to have been harassed for several years, in particular because he refused to 'cover up' certain attempts at concealment.
His complaint is a last resort after he tried, in vain, to find a solution internally, by alerting the management of the power station, that of the group and the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN). Contacted by Le Monde, EDF explains that it "does not comment on the remarks reported by an employee" and the ASN contests any cover-up. The management of the Tricastin plant did not wish to react.
Finally got my new plug-in hybrid. Only 10 months after ordering, but anyway, I like it a lot.
My question is, how do i work out how much it costs me to charge up the battery? I cannot easily monitor how much electricity the charging cable is drawing from the mains, I only have an old Owl for that kind of thing which is a bit hit and miss. I daresay some of you have an idea how much you use up in kWh? I'm currently only using the standard charger, as I'm still waiting for the wallbox to be fitted, but I understand from earlier comments that they use up much the same amount of juice on the way to powering up the battery, is that right? The only thing I can get from the car's manual that might help is that the "installed capacity" of the battery is 12.4kWh.
Somebody must have nailed this question, I'm sure of it. I hope so. My wife was following up all kinds of leads in vain, and I told her "it's OK, I'll just ask Charlton Life!" ...
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars-vans/108345/top-10-longest-range-electric-cars-2021
I can't really talk for the UK, but seeing a public charge point around here in France is still a bit of a novelty. Until there's a lot more of them, or the cars can do a lot more than 300 miles, I can’t see many people who drive long distances (arguably the people you want to make the switch), making the change myself
Being the way I am, for a car that can do 300 miles, I'd be looking at a charge point at 250 miles and that nothing to do with needed a piss
I will buy an electric car when they close down the outdated nuclear power plants that are a disaster waiting to happen and replace them with renewable sources.
And until then they should name electric cars 'toxic waste' or 'radiation' instead of 'leaf' bollocks.
The French government gave an extension to the life of the older reactors that should have already been dismantled. No reasonable explanation for this was given. The fact is that they are stuck for an alternative. These reactors are dilapidated and unsafe. Greenpeace activists also broke into a reactor overnight to highlight the lack of security.
Meanwhile there's Flamanville in Normandy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamanville_Nuclear_Power_Plant
which is multiple times over budget and they still are having problems with it.
Sadly the public will will only wake up when Fukushima happens here.
On another note, gave the motor a charge last night on octopus go tariff and it cost £1.60. Happy days.
But it's OK because they plan to put in 30 more charging points in 5 more locations...maybe in a year or 2.
I'm sure they'll be OK. I'm all for nuclear power if it makes our electricity bills cheaper.
This is the one I've been to and I'm not the only one who derides the fact that it is allowed to continue to operate:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/manifestation-pour-la-fermeture-de-la-centrale-nucleaire-du-bugey-20211003
There are dozens of such articles in French on the internet. It's difficult to find anything in English but there is this:
https://www.rfi.fr/en/economy/20191007-iaea-gives-green-light-french-nuclear-plant-local-watchdog-says-severe-risks-remain
As I said, they are a disaster waiting to happen, and beware in the UK if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction if that sad day arrives. But nevermind, you can take comfort from the radiation in a 'green' nuclear electric car.
I read the whole article in Le Monde last week but now I've been able to find it online, its easy to offer you a translation of the start of the article. I post this because the UK imports a lot of its electricity from France and so how that electricity is produced should be of concern to the people of the UK, particularly if it is being stated that such electricity is clean and safe.
https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2021/11/12/nucleaire-un-cadre-de-la-centrale-du-tricastin-denonce-une-politique-de-dissimulation-d-incidents-de-surete_6101804_3244.html
Full article (In French) attached
My question is, how do i work out how much it costs me to charge up the battery? I cannot easily monitor how much electricity the charging cable is drawing from the mains, I only have an old Owl for that kind of thing which is a bit hit and miss. I daresay some of you have an idea how much you use up in kWh? I'm currently only using the standard charger, as I'm still waiting for the wallbox to be fitted, but I understand from earlier comments that they use up much the same amount of juice on the way to powering up the battery, is that right? The only thing I can get from the car's manual that might help is that the "installed capacity" of the battery is 12.4kWh.
Somebody must have nailed this question, I'm sure of it. I hope so. My wife was following up all kinds of leads in vain, and I told her "it's OK, I'll just ask Charlton Life!" ...