The Ashes 2021/22

blackpool72

This England side is a total embarrassment. 
Can't bat at all.

Rudders22

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

Callumcafc

31-4 at stumps. Still trailing by 51.

suzisausage

What a terrible last hour to a reasonable days cricket. 

Callumcafc

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

The bowlers have done about as well as they possibly could in this Test, and through periods of the first & second too. It wasn’t all the Anderson show today, all of the others had very good spells too.

It’s definitely the batting that’s the issue. And has been for a number of years now.

blackpool72

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

For starters we have to give county cricket far more respect and stop fucking around with crap like the Hundred. 
Red ball cricket in England has been mismanaged for too long.

iaitch

Todds_right_hook said:

Who would win out of this England team and the England team of the early 90's

Not sure this team could beat a team of blokes in their early 90's.

Tutt-Tutt

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

The County Championship has been pushed to the margins to accommodate tip and run white ball cricket. How do you expect to produce test cricketers? 

Add to that, the lack of tour matches in the build up and you have a totally under prepared team.

The Aussies send their players over to play in England prior to an Ashes tour to understand the different conditions. The Counties sign them up, because it's more important to them that they beat Sussex in the next game, rather than helping prepare an Aussie player for test cricket. So an Aussie player has Shield Cricket and County Cricket to get him ready. You reap what you sow.

carly burn

Bloody embarrassing that.

There must be some heads rolling after this.

Chippycafc

Australia might not bat again in this test, just come home and save the inevitable.

1StevieG

Wonder what the record is for number of days played in terms of losing an Ashes series?

killerandflash

Roll on 11:30pm...

At least I'll get an early night tomorrow, as this won't go into the 4th day

golfaddick

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

We've only had 2 days so far. Looks like my prediction will be right.

billysboots

1StevieG said:

Wonder what the record is for number of days played in terms of losing an Ashes series?

11 I think 

MrOneLung

Been a good battle in the final with @Rothko
luckily woke up this morning to see Dak has put a bit of gap between us. Hopefully Duke Johnson doesn’t go off on one tonight and score 29+ points 

feared the worst when left 3 touchdown Damien Harris on the bench as thought he was injured. 

iaitch

Think this is on the wrong thread?

MrOneLung

MrOneLung said:

Been a good battle in the final with @Rothko
luckily woke up this morning to see Dak has put a bit of gap between us. Hopefully Duke Johnson doesn’t go off on one tonight and score 29+ points 

feared the worst when left 3 touchdown Damien Harris on the bench as thought he was injured. 

Oops 

oohaahmortimer

MrOneLung said:

Been a good battle in the final with @Rothko
luckily woke up this morning to see Dak has put a bit of gap between us. Hopefully Duke Johnson doesn’t go off on one tonight and score 29+ points 

feared the worst when left 3 touchdown Damien Harris on the bench as thought he was injured. 

Literally another language 

iaitch

No worries better than talkingabout the England cricket team.

MrOneLung

iaitch said:

No worries better than talkingabout the England cricket team.

To make up for it I have tweeted my disapproval of our performance to the ECB and EnglandCricket 

killerandflash

MrOneLung said:

Been a good battle in the final with @Rothko
luckily woke up this morning to see Dak has put a bit of gap between us. Hopefully Duke Johnson doesn’t go off on one tonight and score 29+ points 

feared the worst when left 3 touchdown Damien Harris on the bench as thought he was injured. 

The England team won't touchdown for another 3 weeks, when they return to Heathrow. 

Addick Addict

blackpool72 said:

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

For starters we have to give county cricket far more respect and stop fucking around with crap like the Hundred. 
Red ball cricket in England has been mismanaged for too long.

I really don't think the ECB care. I actually believe that they want us to do badly because eventually the vast majority of English fans will give up on the longer form of the game because we are so poor at it. 

Hameed's confidence is shot to pieces. Crawley is undercooked and is a better white ball batsman than red anyway. As is Bairstow. As is Stokes. As is Buttler,  That leaves Malan and Root. You can't go in with one or two batsmen every game.

wmcf123

Addick Addict said:

blackpool72 said:

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

For starters we have to give county cricket far more respect and stop fucking around with crap like the Hundred. 
Red ball cricket in England has been mismanaged for too long.

I really don't think the ECB care. I actually believe that they want us to do badly because eventually the vast majority of English fans will give up on the longer form of the game because we are so poor at it. 

Hameed's confidence is shot to pieces. Crawley is undercooked and is a better white ball batsman than red anyway. As is Bairstow. As is Stokes. As is Buttler,  That leaves Malan and Root. You can't go in with one or two batsmen every game.

I believe in Crawley .  I don’t think anyone would find Cummins easy to face.  Hameed was selected based on those two hundreds against Yorkshire and the promise in India - both a very long time ago.  

Andyessgee90

That’s the first full day of play I have missed throughout the first 3 tests. Woke up to them 8 down and deep in my soul I just knew we would be at least 3 down before the end of the day. It was a nasty session at the end and most teams in the world would lose a wicket or two but, I just don’t understand how we have failed to grasp such a basic tactic of leaving the ball on length…particularly on bouncy Australian wickets. Hameed doesn’t need to get anywhere near that delivery but it’s not just him, all of our batters are culprits having played a ball in front of them that impacts the bat above the height of the stumps. 

If ever Roots first hundred on Australian soil was needed, tomorrow is the day. You feel between him, Stokes, Bairstow and Buttler if they can actually bat the day out then a lead of 230 would be difficult to chase on this pitch. Can’t see us getting anywhere near that and we’re more likely to be all out with Australia chasing 15 to win the Ashes. 

Addick Addict

wmcf123 said:

Addick Addict said:

blackpool72 said:

Rudders22 said:

I over estimated thus team. They actually lasted into the 4th day. I am not sure if I have seen a more inept poor side in all the time I have watched England.  Even Warner and their tail enders get more runs then most of our batsmen, Have we go no players coming through at all?  I worry about our bowlers as well? Especially when Anderson and Broad retire,  Is it the players, the coaches, management, Root or the whole lot of them that need a clearout. 

For starters we have to give county cricket far more respect and stop fucking around with crap like the Hundred. 
Red ball cricket in England has been mismanaged for too long.

I really don't think the ECB care. I actually believe that they want us to do badly because eventually the vast majority of English fans will give up on the longer form of the game because we are so poor at it. 

Hameed's confidence is shot to pieces. Crawley is undercooked and is a better white ball batsman than red anyway. As is Bairstow. As is Stokes. As is Buttler,  That leaves Malan and Root. You can't go in with one or two batsmen every game.

I believe in Crawley .  I don’t think anyone would find Cummins easy to face.  Hameed was selected based on those two hundreds against Yorkshire and the promise in India - both a very long time ago.  

I want to believe in Crawley because he is a good lad and has the ability to do well. He is a very good white ball player but, bar one innings when all the stars aligned for him, his Test record is extremely poor - he has a First Class average of just 31.33 and Test average of 26.92 from 28 innings. If you take out that massive hit of 267, then this drops to 18.04. In fact, since that score, his average in 18 innings is 10.81

Last season Crawley was dropped and told to work on his red ball game. He went back to Kent to play against Lancs and was out for a duck to Jimmy Anderson. What happened to him in the second innings? Nothing - because he was called up to play for England in a white ball game in the middle of that County Championship game. And that tells us all we need to know what is wrong with English red ball cricket. It is the poor relation.

Addick Addict

Think that bat Extras needs more of a run in the side

killerandflash

Addick Addict said:

Think that bat Extras needs more of a run in the side

Been poor in this match. Only got 5 in the first innings

MrOneLung

killerandflash said:

Addick Addict said:

Think that bat Extras needs more of a run in the side

Been poor in this match. Only got 5 in the first innings

Their streak of not outs continues though. 

Miserableoldgit

Having a senior moment, who's JR Bracey ?

Leuth

Miserableoldgit said:

Having a senior moment, who's JR Bracey ?

The only England batsman to hit a red-ball hundred in Australia this winter