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Ricky Gervais tonight
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A brilliant writer and comic. Much funnier than the other three that are often mentioned in the same breath; Milligan, Cleese, Everett, Sessions.12
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Great comedy writer but his standup is so so scripted and he lacks that quick witted spontaneity of someone like Micky Flanagan or Lee Mack. Gervais also comes across as being quite smug.0
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The office is up there with the best of British. I loved his Oscar hosting speech, at that time it was unrivalled, but standing up on stage and regurgitating the same he/she/him/they and “woke” gags has been done IMO, all a bit end of last decade. Anything he does for TV though I’m usually all over, stand-up not so bothered.2
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PaddyP17 said:
Also at the start of that video, Harry could have easily slipped from a bang on Gervais impersonation onto doing Eddie Hearn
I love Ricky Gervais, the TV stuff I accept is an acquired taste and it needs paying attention to especially in Extras and Lifes too short as a whole episode could be set up to get one massive laugh and if you switch off the laugh can be missed.
I think what people don't like so much with him is the shock factor he goes for in his stand up, and I understand that. Frankie Boyle circa 2007/8 did it a lot more natrually. My criticism of Ricky is that maybe he oversells some of his observations, Afterlife he did that a bit but it only really applies if you have eaten a lot of his material.1 -
I was pretty obsessed with The Office and Extras as a young man. Can't really get along with Derek or After Life, they just seem contrived. Loved the XFM shows. I think his stand-up gets a bit of leeway because of who he is. I doubt he would have made it just as a stand-up comic.
What annoys me about him these days is the lecturing about atheism, and how he gets his characters such as Tony in After Life to become the mouthpieces for his atheist rants.
If it works for him, great. No need to keep lecturing everyone else about it. It's just as annoying as religious people who keep trying to convert you.
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Chunes said:I was pretty obsessed with The Office and Extras as a young man. Can't really get along with Derek or After Life, they just seem contrived. Loved the XFM shows. I think his stand-up gets a bit of leeway because of who he is. I doubt he would have made it just as a stand-up comic.
What annoys me about him these days is the lecturing about atheism, and how he gets his characters such as Tony in After Life to become the mouthpieces for his atheist rants.
If it works for him, great. No need to keep lecturing everyone else about it. It's just as annoying as religious people who keep trying to convert you.
I think if your first experience of him presenting that is the character of Tony then yeah thats fine but like you say, its him channelling his own view through the character so anyone familiar with Rickys stance can then feel a bit saturated1 -
Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.8
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McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.3
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arny23394 said:McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.1
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Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.0
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Gervais used to make me laugh a lot, but I tried his new Netflix special and thought it was bloody awful because it's just the same thing all over again, like he's on a crusade to justify outrage comedy. He just keeps repeating the same schtick.
He says that his on stage persona is a character, and the whole thing is one big, ironic joke. Yet I wonder how much of his audience get that. And sometimes it just feels like an excuse to say whatever he likes and not care about who it might hurt. Which is obviously allowed and we shouldn't dream of stopping that, although we should also be aware that it doesn't help the people he's 'picking on' if the audience don't really get it.2 -
meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.1
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Clem_Snide said:meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.0
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Always wonder how an American audience get his live stand up, even his tv stuff is very British in its construct and delivery. Are they drawn by his Golden Globes hosting? After all they treat their stars as Gods, it must make them curious, seeing someone coat thier idols off so viciously.
I love RG but as he ages (and don't we all...) his standup does seem dated now.1 -
McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.2
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meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.
https://www.leicestersquaretheatre.com/whats-on/
Have seen Stephen K Amos and Simon Brodkin both here.
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valleynick66 said:meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.
https://www.leicestersquaretheatre.com/whats-on/
Have seen Stephen K Amos and Simon Brodkin both here.0 -
valleynick66 said:meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.
https://www.leicestersquaretheatre.com/whats-on/
Have seen Stephen K Amos and Simon Brodkin both here.
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Friend Or Defoe said:McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.0
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charente addick said:Friend Or Defoe said:McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.0
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Addickhead86 said:charente addick said:Friend Or Defoe said:McBobbin said:Love most of his stand up, but his recent one had a Jeremy Clarkson-esque old man "gammon" meltdown vibe about it. IT wasn't very funny. I think everything is fair game and nothing wrong with offending people, quite frankly, but you at least have to be funny.0
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I saw his latest Netflix show and it did come across as a bit of a show-by-numbers to fulfil a contractual obligation. I didn't find it very funny.1
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Na new stand up stuff is quite poor and the joke seems to be I’m not gonna try very hard cos you’ve already paid me.0
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Thought Supernature was brilliant, new one was alright... tried a bit too hard at being offensive for the sake of being offensive0
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valleynick66 said:meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.
https://www.leicestersquaretheatre.com/whats-on/
Have seen Stephen K Amos and Simon Brodkin both here.0 -
I think some of his stuff is genius level. However I think all this “I’m a character when I do standup” bollocks is, well, bollocks. He is being himself and using the free hit of being a stand up comedian to say stuff that the rest of us would get arrested for saying. Frankie Boyle made a career out of doing so. I don’t have a problem with that so long as it’s funny and you have the choice whether to be offended or not (his words not mine). Problem is this latest Netflix routine just isn’t funny. About 20 years ago when RG was at the height of his “the office” breakthrough fame, the organisation I worked for hired him to be guest after dinner speaker at a major conference. He wasn’t cheap!! He used the opportunity to try out what I think morphed eventually into his “Flanimals” standup. It was terrible, all the more so because we thought we were getting David Brent.2
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CAFCsayer said:Thought Supernature was brilliant, new one was alright... tried a bit too hard at being offensive for the sake of being offensive
Calling out hypocrisy and virtue signalling by amoral Hollywood stars with humour is fun entertainment because there is a germ of truth in the jokes. Just because a joke causes discomfort to the listener doesn't mean it's offensive.
His joke about the kid and the wanking adult I found kept up the discomfort in my mind too long - but that's not being offended.
I think that's his style, causing discomfort, not offence, plus fighting against the tide of the chronically offended, the self appointed arbiters of what can be joked about.
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meldrew66 said:Clem_Snide said:Saw Ricky do a Work in Progress show at a 200 seater venue (Kings Place) last night. I am not the biggest fan of his stand up, but he was genuinely hilarious away from the arena setting. Lucked out getting a ticket. He tends to 40/50 of these sorts of shows before starting an arena tour. If you can get a ticket I'd recommend it. Only £15 as well.1
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I've loved pretty much everything he's ever done but as others have alluded to his latest Netflix stand up was a tired even lazy effort. Same old jokes about babies with aids and even a Schindlers List bit. That was like 3 or 4 stand up shows ago FFS2
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Dippenhall said:CAFCsayer said:Thought Supernature was brilliant, new one was alright... tried a bit too hard at being offensive for the sake of being offensive
Calling out hypocrisy and virtue signalling by amoral Hollywood stars with humour is fun entertainment because there is a germ of truth in the jokes. Just because a joke causes discomfort to the listener doesn't mean it's offensive.
His joke about the kid and the wanking adult I found kept up the discomfort in my mind too long - but that's not being offended.
I think that's his style, causing discomfort, not offence, plus fighting against the tide of the chronically offended, the self appointed arbiters of what can be joked about.
We get it, everything is funny and any joke can be told... now we (he) need to move on to another topicbecause I definitely can't watch another hour on that topic.
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